Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > Features I would like in the kernel:
> > 1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
> > trigged before rootmount.
>
> Already there. In fact Red Hat uses it for the scsi devices. That is what
> initrd is for.
>
> > 2: Compile time
Alan Cox wrote:
Features I would like in the kernel:
1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
trigged before rootmount.
Already there. In fact Red Hat uses it for the scsi devices. That is what
initrd is for.
2: Compile time optimization options in
John Nilsson wrote:
>
> Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
> community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
> far.
>
> I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
> 266MHz Pentium-MMX
> 4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux
John Nilsson wrote:
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
far.
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces
>From Android on Sunday, 24 June, 2001:
>>I have come to the conclusion that linux is NOT suitable for the general
>>desktop market.
>I have to disagree on this. It runs fine on most PC's, as they use standard
>devices. Just say NO to anything proprietary. This includes Toshiba. Makers of such
> > 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or
>cddrive
> > in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new
>distribution.
>
>Well, don't do drastic things then, if that cause problems!
=) First of all that part was intended as a joke ;) but what I meant
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
> 266MHz Pentium-MMX
> 4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
> 32 Mb EDO RAM
I have the same machine with 64 MB ram, and it's quite well supported with
linux. I do most of my daily work on
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Dieter Nützel wrote:
>
> > > 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or
> > > cddrive in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new
> > > distribution.
> >
> > Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who
John Nilsson wrote:
[everything else answered by others]
> 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
> in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
Well, don't do drastic things then, if that cause problems!
My machines have
David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> if you don't preserve things running in userspace what advantage do you
> have over rebooting?
I use it as part of a bootloader. Allowing me to boot one kernel
directly from another. I guess it really is a soft reboot that never
touches any BIOS. I
that the kernel structures
may change on you.
David Lang
On 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Date: 24 Jun 2001 21:48:20 -0600
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: John Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Some expe
that the kernel structures
may change on you.
David Lang
On 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: 24 Jun 2001 21:48:20 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: John Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Some experience of linux on a Laptop
David Lang
David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you don't preserve things running in userspace what advantage do you
have over rebooting?
I use it as part of a bootloader. Allowing me to boot one kernel
directly from another. I guess it really is a soft reboot that never
touches any BIOS. I don't
John Nilsson wrote:
[everything else answered by others]
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
Well, don't do drastic things then, if that cause problems!
My machines have both
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Dieter Nützel wrote:
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or
cddrive in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new
distribution.
Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who do
this
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
32 Mb EDO RAM
I have the same machine with 64 MB ram, and it's quite well supported with
linux. I do most of my daily work on it
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or
cddrive
in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new
distribution.
Well, don't do drastic things then, if that cause problems!
=) First of all that part was intended as a joke ;) but what I meant is
From Android on Sunday, 24 June, 2001:
I have come to the conclusion that linux is NOT suitable for the general
desktop market.
I have to disagree on this. It runs fine on most PC's, as they use standard
devices. Just say NO to anything proprietary. This includes Toshiba. Makers of such
odd
David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> > 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
> > in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
>
> this is suggested every few months, the normal
Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
> > in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
>
> Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who do
> this level of
Alan wrote:
>
> > 4: make bzImage && make modules && make modules install && cp
> > arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r' something inside make menuconfig
>
> So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
> install kernels. Yeah I'd agree with that. Someone just
John Nilson wrote:
> 2: Compile time optimization options in Make menuconfig
I do not understand the point.
> 3: Lilo/grub config in make menuconfig
Unusefull and dangerous.
> 4: make bzImage && make modules && make modules install && cp
> arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r'
> So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
> install kernels. Yeah I'd agree with that. Someone just needs to write the
> killer gnome/kde config tool. I've got C code for parsing/loading config.in
> files and deducing the dependancy constraints if anyone ever
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
> 266MHz Pentium-MMX
> 4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
> 32 Mb EDO RAM
tons of info out there.
http://www.tce.co.jp/linux/
http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/
On Monday 25 June 2001 00:12, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > So when you speak of being able to run on 386:es I still have problem
> > > starting X on 266MHz with 32Mb mem. This should not be =)
> >
> > That's true. Usually, X by itself starts pretty fast. Just try 'xinit',
> > no parameters. KDE and
> then to either a test linux or stable linux environment from the C drive.
> I setup a Menu in config.sys under dos to select which linux to boot up.
> If the test kernel doesn't work, I reboot the system to switch to the
> stable one. At least better than carrying a floppy around.
That is
Good day, John, Alan,
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 4: make bzImage && make modules && make modules install && cp
> > arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r' something inside make menuconfig
>
> So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
> install
> > So when you speak of being able to run on 386:es I still have problem
> > starting X on 266MHz with 32Mb mem. This should not be =)
>
> That's true. Usually, X by itself starts pretty fast. Just try 'xinit', no
> parameters. KDE and Gnome both need to go on a diet, especially KDE. They
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
> > in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
>
> Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who do
> this level of
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to
> the linux community. So I will tell you guys a little of my
> experience with linux so far.
Two words: "send patches"
Please put your money where your mouth is. I mean,
it's ok if you
On Sunday 24 June 2001 22:51, John Nilsson wrote:
> So a little plea is that you let the optimization phase cooldown a
> little and concern your self a little more with compatibility, and ease of
> installation, (tidy up the kernel build system).
/me has no intention of cooling down the
> Features I would like in the kernel:
> 1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
> trigged before rootmount.
Already there. In fact Red Hat uses it for the scsi devices. That is what
initrd is for.
> 2: Compile time optimization options in Make menuconfig
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:51:56 +0200
> From: John Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Some experience of linux on a Laptop
>
> Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the
> >Features I would like in the kernel:
> >1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
> >trigged before rootmount.
>
> How can you load modules into the kernel before root is mounted?
> No harddrive accessible means no modules.
initrd ?
It's quite popular feature
>I have come to the conclusion that linux is NOT suitable for the general
>desktop market.
I have to disagree on this. It runs fine on most PC's, as they use standard
devices.
Just say NO to anything proprietary. This includes Toshiba. Makers of such
odd machines
should supply their own
Well, let's see:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
> Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
> community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
> far.
>
> I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
> 266MHz Pentium-MMX
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
far.
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
32 Mb EDO RAM
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
far.
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
32 Mb EDO RAM
Well, let's see:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
community. So I will tell you guys a little of my experience with linux so
far.
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB
I have come to the conclusion that linux is NOT suitable for the general
desktop market.
I have to disagree on this. It runs fine on most PC's, as they use standard
devices.
Just say NO to anything proprietary. This includes Toshiba. Makers of such
odd machines
should supply their own native
Features I would like in the kernel:
1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
trigged before rootmount.
How can you load modules into the kernel before root is mounted?
No harddrive accessible means no modules.
initrd ?
It's quite popular feature at
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:51:56 +0200
From: John Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Some experience of linux on a Laptop
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to the linux
community. So I will tell you
On Sunday 24 June 2001 22:51, John Nilsson wrote:
So a little plea is that you let the optimization phase cooldown a
little and concern your self a little more with compatibility, and ease of
installation, (tidy up the kernel build system).
/me has no intention of cooling down the
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
Well I thought that it was time for me to give some feedback to
the linux community. So I will tell you guys a little of my
experience with linux so far.
Two words: send patches
Please put your money where your mouth is. I mean,
it's ok if you send
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
I have a Toshiba Portégé 3010CT laptop. That is:
266MHz Pentium-MMX
4GB HD with 512kb cache (which linux reduces to 0kb)
32 Mb EDO RAM
tons of info out there.
http://www.tce.co.jp/linux/
http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/
John Nilson wrote:
2: Compile time optimization options in Make menuconfig
I do not understand the point.
3: Lilo/grub config in make menuconfig
Unusefull and dangerous.
4: make bzImage make modules make modules install cp
arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r' something inside
Alan wrote:
4: make bzImage make modules make modules install cp
arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r' something inside make menuconfig
So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
install kernels. Yeah I'd agree with that. Someone just needs to write
David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, John Nilsson wrote:
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
this is suggested every few months, the normal answer is
Good day, John, Alan,
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
4: make bzImage make modules make modules install cp
arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/'uname -r' something inside make menuconfig
So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
install kernels. Yeah I'd
So when you speak of being able to run on 386:es I still have problem
starting X on 266MHz with 32Mb mem. This should not be =)
That's true. Usually, X by itself starts pretty fast. Just try 'xinit', no
parameters. KDE and Gnome both need to go on a diet, especially KDE. They
The
then to either a test linux or stable linux environment from the C drive.
I setup a Menu in config.sys under dos to select which linux to boot up.
If the test kernel doesn't work, I reboot the system to switch to the
stable one. At least better than carrying a floppy around.
That is
On Monday 25 June 2001 00:12, Alan Cox wrote:
So when you speak of being able to run on 386:es I still have problem
starting X on 266MHz with 32Mb mem. This should not be =)
That's true. Usually, X by itself starts pretty fast. Just try 'xinit',
no parameters. KDE and Gnome both
So really you want an outside GUI tool that lets you reconfigure build and
install kernels. Yeah I'd agree with that. Someone just needs to write the
killer gnome/kde config tool. I've got C code for parsing/loading config.in
files and deducing the dependancy constraints if anyone ever wants
Features I would like in the kernel:
1: Make the whole insmod-rmmod tingie a kernel internal so they could be
trigged before rootmount.
Already there. In fact Red Hat uses it for the scsi devices. That is what
initrd is for.
2: Compile time optimization options in Make menuconfig
such as
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who do
this level of stuff are
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
8: A way to change kernel without rebooting. I have no diskdrive or cddrive
in my laptop so I often do drastic things when I install a new distribution.
Thats actually an incredibly hard problem to solve. The only people who do
this level of stuff are
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