Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jamie Lokier
Jes Sorensen wrote: > So? I have one of those letters in my name as well, doesn't mean I put > it in the From line or in the code that I write. Or do you want us all > to start using a compiler and editors that will understand full UTF8 > so everybody who use non roman character sets have their

Re: [OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "David" == David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't David> restricted to that. If you or your M*A can't or won't deal David> with anything but plain text, then filter it. Plain text is David> clearly in the minority of emails

Re: [OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Alexander Viro
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, David Ford wrote: > C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't restricted to that. > If you or your M*A can't or won't deal with anything but plain text, then > filter it. Plain text is clearly in the minority of emails throughout the > world and the people

[OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread David Ford
C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't restricted to that. If you or your M*A can't or won't deal with anything but plain text, then filter it. Plain text is clearly in the minority of emails throughout the world and the people on LKML seem in general not to care about MIME

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Horst" == Horst von Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Horst> "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] >> That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? No problem, '=' >> is a standard character. >> >> My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing >>

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Kurt" == Kurt Garloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kurt> On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:33:34PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote: >> Exmh handles MIME just fine and MIME is useful for some things. >> Other people (including Linus) have made it clear that MIME is not >> welcome on linux-kernel, plain

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jes Sorensen
"Horst" == Horst von Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Horst "Albert D. Cahalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? No problem, '=' is a standard character. My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing existed, so I can see the

[OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread David Ford
C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't restricted to that. If you or your M*A can't or won't deal with anything but plain text, then filter it. Plain text is clearly in the minority of emails throughout the world and the people on LKML seem in general not to care about MIME

Re: [OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Alexander Viro
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, David Ford wrote: C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't restricted to that. If you or your M*A can't or won't deal with anything but plain text, then filter it. Plain text is clearly in the minority of emails throughout the world and the people on

Re: [OT] Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jes Sorensen
"David" == David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David C program instructions are in ASCII, data certainly isn't David restricted to that. If you or your M*A can't or won't deal David with anything but plain text, then filter it. Plain text is David clearly in the minority of emails throughout

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-12 Thread Jamie Lokier
Jes Sorensen wrote: So? I have one of those letters in my name as well, doesn't mean I put it in the From line or in the code that I write. Or do you want us all to start using a compiler and editors that will understand full UTF8 so everybody who use non roman character sets have their names

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-10 Thread Richard Gooch
Alexander Viro writes: > MIME may help to work around the b0rken MTAs that are not 8-bit > clean, but that's about it. It is nothing but a glamorized tarball. MIME and glamour are like oil and water. Regards, Richard

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-10 Thread Richard Gooch
Alexander Viro writes: MIME may help to work around the b0rken MTAs that are not 8-bit clean, but that's about it. It is nothing but a glamorized tarball. MIME and glamour are like oil and water. Regards, Richard

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: > "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [...] > > > That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? > > No problem, '=' is a standard character. > > > > My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing existed, > > so I

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Horst von Brand
"Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? > No problem, '=' is a standard character. > > My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing existed, > so I can see the full ASCII character set. That includes the carat, >

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Jamie Lokier
Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > You can say it louder but you can't say it clearer. I'd love to know that > > my surname shows up correctly everywhere. BTW, mutt shows MIME > > patches in plain text without any problems > > That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? > No problem, '=' is

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Jamie Lokier
Albert D. Cahalan wrote: You can say it louder but you can't say it clearer. I'd love to know that my surname shows up correctly everywhere. asbestos BTW, mutt shows MIME patches in plain text without any problems / That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? No problem, '=' is

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Horst von Brand
"Albert D. Cahalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? No problem, '=' is a standard character. My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing existed, so I can see the full ASCII character set. That includes the carat,

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-09 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: "Albert D. Cahalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] That would be the "H=F8jland" in your .sig, right? No problem, '=' is a standard character. My MUA has been RFC-compliant since before this "MIME" thing existed, so I can see the full

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Ragnar Hojland Esp writes: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: > > Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-d= > efined > > RFC standards with proprietary formats.=20 > > MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be=

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: > Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-defined > RFC standards with proprietary formats. > MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be able > to print their name correctly, even

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Kurt Garloff
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:33:34PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote: > Exmh handles MIME just fine and MIME is useful for some things. Other > people (including Linus) have made it clear that MIME is not welcome on > linux-kernel, plain text format is always better when you are sending > plain text.

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread john slee
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:33:34PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote: > plain text. What next, rich text format and HTML with multiple copies > of the text, MSWord format? don't joke. a certain government department here (that shall remain unnamed) has an email system that *automatically* converts

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Kurt Garloff
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:33:34PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote: Exmh handles MIME just fine and MIME is useful for some things. Other people (including Linus) have made it clear that MIME is not welcome on linux-kernel, plain text format is always better when you are sending plain text. What

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-defined RFC standards with proprietary formats. MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be able to print their name correctly, even in

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Ragnar Hojland Esp writes: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-d= efined RFC standards with proprietary formats.=20 MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be= able