Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-17 Thread Kok, Auke
Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 01:46:33PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: >> I would assume that that is true for all PHY's - if there is no link to keep >> the >> carrier active on I would think that the power consumption is nominal across >> the >> board. Once the PHY detects link pu

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 01:46:33PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: > I would assume that that is true for all PHY's - if there is no link to keep > the > carrier active on I would think that the power consumption is nominal across > the > board. Once the PHY detects link pulses it should obviously use di

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-12 Thread Kok, Auke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:35:15 PDT, "Kok, Auke" said: > >>> How much power does a non-connected NIC consume, and can you save power >>> by forcing 10 MBit until a link is detected (doubling negotiation time)? >> no, the PHY consumes a minimal amount of energy when not conn

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:35:15 PDT, "Kok, Auke" said: > > How much power does a non-connected NIC consume, and can you save power > > by forcing 10 MBit until a link is detected (doubling negotiation time)? > > no, the PHY consumes a minimal amount of energy when not connected, > regardless of > w

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-12 Thread Kok, Auke
Bodo Eggert wrote: > Kok, Auke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> K.Prasad wrote: > >>> Without the side-effect of experiencing a link-flap when switching to a >>> lower-speed (with its toll in terms of down-time for auto-negotiation, >>> STP, etc), the Interrupt Moderation Algorithm dynamically adjust

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-11 Thread Bodo Eggert
Kok, Auke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > K.Prasad wrote: >> Without the side-effect of experiencing a link-flap when switching to a >> lower-speed (with its toll in terms of down-time for auto-negotiation, >> STP, etc), the Interrupt Moderation Algorithm dynamically adjusts the >> number of interrup

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-11 Thread Kok, Auke
Mark Gross wrote: > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:41:17AM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: >> Lennart Sorensen wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. One of the biggest problems is that link negotiation can t

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-11 Thread Kok, Auke
K.Prasad wrote: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:11:17 +0530, Kok, Auke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Lennart Sorensen wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. One of the biggest problems is that link

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-11 Thread K.Prasad
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:11:17 +0530, Kok, Auke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. One of the biggest problems is that link negotiation can take a significant

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Gross
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:41:17AM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: > Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: > >> you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. > >> > >> One of the biggest problems is that link negotiation can take a > >> significa

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-09 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Dienstag 09 Oktober 2007 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > Now if you were trying to transfer a lot of data to the laptop, would it > be more power efficient to do it at gigabit speeds so you can finish > sooner and shut down the machine entirely, or to slow to 100mbit and > take longer to do it, and

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-09 Thread Kok, Auke
Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: >> you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. >> >> One of the biggest problems is that link negotiation can take a significant >> amount >> of time, well over several seconds (1 to 3 seconds typical

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: > you most certainly want to do this in userspace I think. > > One of the biggest problems is that link negotiation can take a significant > amount > of time, well over several seconds (1 to 3 seconds typical) with gigabit, and > having y

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-08 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Dienstag 09 Oktober 2007 schrieb Pavel Machek: > Question is, how to implement it correctly? Daemon that would watch > data rates and switch speeds using mii-tool would be simple, but is > that enough? Do you only want to affect true ethernet devices this way? It seems to me that the savings fo

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-08 Thread Willy Tarreau
Hi Auke, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I've found that gbit vs. 100mbit power consumption difference is about > > 1W -- pretty significant. (Maybe powertop should include it in the > > tips section? :). > > > > Energy Star people

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Snook
Pavel Machek wrote: Hi! I've found that gbit vs. 100mbit power consumption difference is about 1W -- pretty significant. (Maybe powertop should include it in the tips section? :). Energy Star people insist that machines should switch down to 100mbit when network is idle, and I guess that makes

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-08 Thread Kok, Auke
Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > I've found that gbit vs. 100mbit power consumption difference is about > 1W -- pretty significant. (Maybe powertop should include it in the > tips section? :). > > Energy Star people insist that machines should switch down to 100mbit > when network is idle, and I gue

gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-08 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I've found that gbit vs. 100mbit power consumption difference is about 1W -- pretty significant. (Maybe powertop should include it in the tips section? :). Energy Star people insist that machines should switch down to 100mbit when network is idle, and I guess that makes a lot of sense -- you