Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/11/2007 02:14 AM, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: I agree. i18n efforts won't help one iota because people just have to know English in order to participate in l-k development. They should be able to read _and_ reply_ to lkml posts,

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/11/2007 02:56 AM, Paul Mundt wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: I agree. i18n efforts won't help one iota because people just have to know English in order to participate in l-k development. That's a ridiculous statement. Non-native language

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:46:11AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Monday 11 June 2007 02:56, Paul Mundt wrote: > > That's a ridiculous statement. Non-native language abilities and > > technical competence have very little to do with each other. People have > > to understand the code and figure

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Monday 11 June 2007 02:56, Paul Mundt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > > On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: > > > All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed > > > percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:52:28PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I > > > personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the > > > tree and then

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:52:28PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the tree and then perhaps keep

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Monday 11 June 2007 02:56, Paul Mundt wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:46:11AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Monday 11 June 2007 02:56, Paul Mundt wrote: That's a ridiculous statement. Non-native language abilities and technical competence have very little to do with each other. People have to understand the code and figure out

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/11/2007 02:56 AM, Paul Mundt wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: I agree. i18n efforts won't help one iota because people just have to know English in order to participate in l-k development. That's a ridiculous statement. Non-native language

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/11/2007 02:14 AM, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: I agree. i18n efforts won't help one iota because people just have to know English in order to participate in l-k development. They should be able to read _and_ reply_ to lkml posts,

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: > > All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed > > percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and > > shiny, sure, stuff will get translated

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:52:28PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I > > > personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the > > > tree and then

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:41:38PM +0200, Diego Calleja wrote: > El Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:52:28 +0200, Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > I advocated that they should stay out back then. > > But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles > > having

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: > > All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed > > percentage > > of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and shiny, sure, stuff > > will > > get

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: > All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed percentage > of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and shiny, sure, stuff will > get translated but in no time at all it'll become a fragmented mess which > nobody

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:35:03PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Jun 10 2007 19:52, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > >> > Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I > >> > personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the > >> > tree and then perhaps keep

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/10/2007 08:58 PM, Rene Herman wrote: RESIST! UNITE! Stick a ";-)" on that, by the way... Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Diego Calleja
El Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:52:28 +0200, Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I advocated that they should stay out back then. > But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles > having scripts/kconfig/po/da.po etc araound. > > Any opinion about the .po files? These days the

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:35:03PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> No, I think the translated files should be in the tree proper, we have > >> the space :) > > > >We once discussed about .po files for kconfig and back then > >the conclusion was not to keep them in the kernel tree. > > > >I

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/10/2007 07:52 PM, Sam Ravnborg wrote: We once discussed about .po files for kconfig and back then the conclusion was not to keep them in the kernel tree. I advocated that they should stay out back then. But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles having

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 10 2007 19:52, Sam Ravnborg wrote: >> > Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I >> > personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the >> > tree and then perhaps keep translations on a website somewhere. So the >> > authoritative docs stay

kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I > > personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the > > tree and then perhaps keep translations on a website somewhere. So the > > authoritative

kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the tree and then perhaps keep translations on a website somewhere. So the authoritative docs

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 10 2007 19:52, Sam Ravnborg wrote: Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the tree and then perhaps keep translations on a website somewhere. So the authoritative docs stay in the

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/10/2007 07:52 PM, Sam Ravnborg wrote: We once discussed about .po files for kconfig and back then the conclusion was not to keep them in the kernel tree. I advocated that they should stay out back then. But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles having

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:35:03PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: No, I think the translated files should be in the tree proper, we have the space :) We once discussed about .po files for kconfig and back then the conclusion was not to keep them in the kernel tree. I advocated that they

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Diego Calleja
El Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:52:28 +0200, Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I advocated that they should stay out back then. But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles having scripts/kconfig/po/da.po etc araound. Any opinion about the .po files? These days the

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/10/2007 08:58 PM, Rene Herman wrote: RESIST! UNITE! Stick a ;-) on that, by the way... Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:35:03PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Jun 10 2007 19:52, Sam Ravnborg wrote: Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the tree and then perhaps keep translations

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and shiny, sure, stuff will get translated but in no time at all it'll become a fragmented mess which nobody ever

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and shiny, sure, stuff will get translated

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:41:38PM +0200, Diego Calleja wrote: El Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:52:28 +0200, Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I advocated that they should stay out back then. But on the other hand I do not see it causing much troubles having scripts/kconfig/po/da.po etc

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:52:28PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 09:22:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: Since the common language of most kernel contributors is english I personally feel that we should stick to just that one language in the tree and then perhaps keep

Re: kconfig .po files in kernel tree? [Was: Documentation/HOWTO translated into Japanese]

2007-06-10 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:59:00AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2007 20:58, Rene Herman wrote: All that stuff only serves to multiply the speed at which a fixed percentage of content obsoletes itself. When it's still new and shiny, sure, stuff will get translated but in no