Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Not at all. In fact, I'd prefer it that way, because this same thing is > obviously going to be useful for any other block filesystem with the same > issue. Which is a nice way to say "any other block filesystem in the tree" ;-/ Oh, well... Modulo ->

Re: Oops/kernel panic with CD jukebox, 2.4.0-test{6,7}

2000-09-03 Thread Anssi V I Johansson
[lkml ppl can visit http://iki.fi/avij/linux-scsi.html for the full story] > I've been fighting with this bug (and about 4 others that covered it up) > for about a year now. With success, I might add. > In the meanwhile, here's a patch for it, against 2.4-test7 Yes, this patch works. No matter

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VM now?

2000-09-03 Thread Henrik Størner
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 01:58:58PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: [ext2 truncate bug which caused the innd file corruption may also affect other filesystems] > Anyway, the way to test if you have the bug is this simple program from > Al Viro who noticed the bug and has the fix - notice that you n

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Henrik Størner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 01:58:58PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > [ext2 truncate bug which caused the innd file corruption may > also affect other filesystems] > > > Anyway, the way to test if you have the bug is this simple program

Screen corruption on startup 2.4.0-test7

2000-09-03 Thread David Benfell
Hello all, I've seen this with earlier versions, starting on my old laptop, a Compaq Presario 1250. But I'm now in the interesting position that my only access to the machine is via ssh. This is what I saw when I booted: U LILO boot: Loading 2.4.0-test7.. Uncompr g L.L Ok, boo

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On 2 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: > You can't DMA directly from a file cache page unless you have a > network card that does scatter/gather DMA and surprise surprise, > 80-90% of the cards on the market don't support this. [...] exactly. The TUX patch solves this by copying 'multi-fragment skb

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > Alan, Please. I'm in your code and there are copies all over the > place. I agree you have a "fast path" for most stuff, but there's > all kinds of handles lookups, linear list searching like have you ever bothered actually measuring the impact? I hav

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > while (x) > { > x = x->next > } > > all over the place that increases latency. [...] i challenge you to show one such place in the 2.4.0-test8-pre2 kernel. If it's all over the place and if it increases latency, you certainly can show at least one

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > **ALL** Netware network drivers support a scatter/gather proramming > interface, whether the hardware does or not. In NetWare, the drivers > get passed a fragment list in what's called an ECB (Event Control > Block). It's the drivers responsiblity to a

Re: 2.2.18pre2: gcc 2.7 doesn't like __attr__((unused))

2000-09-03 Thread Arjan van de Ven
> Arjan is looking at making __setup from 2.4 work on 2.4 at the same time > as I am trying to clean up all the duplicated 2.4 compat code in drivers. > The end goal is that most 2.4 code will work in 2.2, which means I can > sensibly encourage vendors to develop directly to the 2.4 API This, tog

Re: 2.2.18pre2 compilation failure

2000-09-03 Thread Arjan van de Ven
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > This came up today. [snip] > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h: In function `kstat_irqs': > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared (first use >in this function) > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47

smithy tools

2000-09-03 Thread akl
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Re: thread rant

2000-09-03 Thread Christoph Rohland
Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ingo Molnar writes: > > yep - and this isnt possible with traditional SysV shared memory, > > and isnt possible with traditional SysV semaphores. (forget my > > filesystem comment, it's a thinko.) > > Huh? After attaching, if you "delete" a SHMID, it w

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:18:50AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On 2 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: > > > You can't DMA directly from a file cache page unless you have a > > network card that does scatter/gather DMA and surprise surprise, > > 80-90% of the cards on the market don't support this.

Re: thread group comments

2000-09-03 Thread Alon Ziv
Title: I find I have to comment... although I haven't had access to my Linux box for a while (Real Life is taking too much of my time ;-) I, for one, am _not_ in favor of the tgid approach. I believe it is _far_ too complex a solution. And, yes, I do have a better (IMNSHO) approach. I just d

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-03 Thread bert hubert
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 05:10:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > With both interfaces up, it's impossible to apply anti-martian > > rules to the interfaces, since it's hard to predict which card > > will answer an ARP request. > > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/.../hidden Where is this file? A cursory glance

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:22:44AM +0200, Jamie Lokier wrote: > I just thought I'd mention that you can do zero copy TCP in and out > *without* any page marking schemes. All you need is a network card with > quite a lot of RAM and some intelligence. An Alteon could do it, with > extra RAM or an

oops 0002 with 2.4.0-test8-pre2

2000-09-03 Thread Taco Witte
Hello. When I reboot my system (Mandrake 7.1 without changes) with 2.4.0-test8-pre2, my system crashes. I didn't have this problem with prior versions (e.g. pre1), compiled with the same options. I have no modules and no 'development' things in my kernel. I don't now what information is relevant

Re: Stuck at 1GB again

2000-09-03 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:50:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The kernel is compiled with the 4GB option. (which I think is > the 2/2GB option from 2.2.x kernels). I believe the option is > supposed to assign 2GB of address space to real memory, and > 2GB to virtual memory (from a pe

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Hi ! I've read the discussion about the truncate() problem and tried to understand ;) However, there's somethign I don't catch in your code (typo ? bug ? misunderstanding on my side ?) Linus wrote: There's a really simple way to avoid this: compare the thing you're going to zero out against zer

Re: www.crucial.com won't talk to 2.4.0-test7 system

2000-09-03 Thread Elmer Joandi
Mark Hahn wrote: > I'm curious to know what you mean. That is your websurfing session. But try on some 100+ size network to set some hops go trough a tunnel... the variety of behaviour and reasons for it are way larger there. I mean a network that is not completely under your control. neither a

Re: NR_TASKS

2000-09-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To change NR_TASKS, can one just redefine it somehow in the top >Makefile, or must one edit the actual header file? I'm looking >at a quick and dirty way of automating changing NR_TASKS more >easily. I usually apply the f

Re: Rik van Riel's VM patch

2000-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
> Yes, it kicks butt and it finally (just about) removes the final > Linux kernel showstopper for recent kernels. ;-) Things like random memory corruption from dropping dirty bits, and some of the others are far more serious showstoppers alas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsub

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
> I just thought I'd mention that you can do zero copy TCP in and out > *without* any page marking schemes. All you need is a network card with No > quite a lot of RAM and some intelligence. An Alteon could do it, with > extra RAM or an impressively underloaded network. PCI bus latency on rea

Re: thread group comments

2000-09-03 Thread Alon Ziv
I find I have to comment... although I haven't had access to my Linux box for a while (Real Life is taking too much of my time ;-) I, for one, am _not_ in favor of the tgid approach. I believe it is _far_ too complex a solution. And, yes, I do have a better (IMNSHO) approach. I just didn't get en

file corruption with test8-pre2?

2000-09-03 Thread Tim Waugh
The end of my inbox has turned to zeroes (everything from a few k off the beginning to the end), while running test8-pre2. :-( (I've restored it from backup, but I thought someone ought to know.) Tim. */ PGP signature

Re: file corruption with test8-pre2?

2000-09-03 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Tim Waugh wrote: > > The end of my inbox has turned to zeroes (everything from a few k off > the beginning to the end), while running test8-pre2. :-( > > (I've restored it from backup, but I thought someone ought to know.) Similar things happen on test7 as well - content of files being garbled

Re: Screen corruption on startup 2.4.0-test7

2000-09-03 Thread James Simmons
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, David Benfell wrote: > Hello all, > > I've seen this with earlier versions, starting on my old laptop, a > Compaq Presario 1250. But I'm now in the interesting position that my > only access to the machine is via ssh. This is what I saw when I > booted: > > U > LILO boot:

test8-pre2 panics on reboot

2000-09-03 Thread Tigran Aivazian
Hi, Attempting to shutdown -r now I got an oops somewhere in send_sig_info() called from some of this new thread-group stuff, I haven't looked closely yet. I will, of course, setup the environment (vmware) for debugging this but I am letting you know, in case you fix it before I do. Regards, Tig

Re: file corruption with test8-pre2?

2000-09-03 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:13:21PM +0200, Udo A. Steinberg wrote: > Tim Waugh wrote: > > > > The end of my inbox has turned to zeroes (everything from a few k off > > the beginning to the end), while running test8-pre2. :-( > > > > (I've restored it from backup, but I thought someone ought to kn

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-03 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > KDB is putrid. Can it debug double faults? NO. Can it debug complex > register and numeric evaluation statements like IF ((EAX == 1) && > [ESP-4] == 0x3000)? NO. Can it debug nested task gate exceptions? > NO. Can it debug SMP locks races? NO

[Crash] 2.4.0-test7

2000-09-03 Thread Pauline Middelink
Hi guys, Maybe its me, but I don't think so. :) Anyway, linux-2.4.0-test7 wont boot on a Cyrix computer. test6 has no problems whatsoever and 7 stops right after 'Uncompressing kernel...' Tried make mrproper, tried fresh tree from kernel.org. Still no go. Kernel as always compiled for 586. So

[PATCH] Magic SysRq help

2000-09-03 Thread Alan Ford
On more than one occasion I have been hit by a situation where I wished I could remember which Magic SysRq key to use. So I wrote the following patch: Alt+SysRq+h to print the list of keys, taken from the SysRq Documentation. I thought I'd share it here, hoping that other people would also find i

Re: [PATCH] 2.2.18pre2: AGP and the i810

2000-09-03 Thread Steven N. Hirsch
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > First, thanks, Alan, for using the USB and AGP patches. You just > saved me a bunch of integration work. > > I'd like to suggest the below patches for the AGP i810 driver. > (snip) Gentlemen, After reading every f'ing bit of documentation I can f

Re: [PATCH] 2.2.18pre2: AGP and the i810

2000-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
> - In the absence of any applications which actually do 3D rendering, is > there any performance advantage to loading the agpgart module? You need it for some new video cards (for example those cheap intel i810 boards that are becoming extremely common). > Absolutely _all_ the documentation I

Re: Rik van Riel's VM patch

2000-09-03 Thread safemode
Mark Hahn wrote: > > have trouble with the readings bonnie gives me. > > um, that's because you used too-small a file. try it with -s > at least 3x the size of ram. > > so far, reports are fairly consistent that Rik's patch cause a minor hit > in sustained disk IO, and some real benefit on l

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Jeff" == Jeff V Merkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> There's been a few cards around since about 1995, but I don't Jeff> remember all of them. I do remember having to debug SMP code on Jeff> them though -- yec I wouldn't be surprised but I would prefer names. Doing SMP aware

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Ingo" == Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ingo> On 2 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: >> You can't DMA directly from a file cache page unless you have a >> network card that does scatter/gather DMA and surprise surprise, >> 80-90% of the cards on the market don't support this. [...]

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread almesber
Ingo Molnar wrote: > On 2 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: > > Besides that you need to do copy-on-write if you want to be able to do > > zero copy on write() from user space [...] > > i agree that this is hard - i'm not sure wether we want to go the pain to > enable anonymous-buffer write()s do zer

Re: [patch] 3c59x.c

2000-09-03 Thread Andrew Morton
Alex Romosan wrote: > > do you know if this will also make it in the next release on the > pcmcia package? i am running pcmcia 3.1.19 with a 3Com 3CCFE575BT card > with 2.2.18pre2 and 2.2.17pre20 and i've been experiencing lock ups > all night: Alex, you should upgrade to pcmcia-cs-3.1.20. Tha

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Andrew Morton
Jes Sorensen wrote: > > I only know of a few 100baseT cards that can do it such as the > Adaptec Starfire and the 3C905B > (though I am not sure what it provides is sufficient). The 3c905, 3c905B, 3c905C and all 3Com Cardbus NICs will do scatter and gather of up to 63 fragments per packet with b

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Andrew" == Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andrew> Jes Sorensen wrote: >> I only know of a few 100baseT cards that can do it such as the >> Adaptec Starfire and the 3C905B (though I am not sure what it >> provides is sufficient). Andrew> The 3c905, 3c905B, 3c905C and all 3Com C

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Richard Gooch
Andrew Morton writes: > Jes Sorensen wrote: > > > > I only know of a few 100baseT cards that can do it such as the > > Adaptec Starfire and the 3C905B > > (though I am not sure what it provides is sufficient). > > The 3c905, 3c905B, 3c905C and all 3Com Cardbus NICs will do > scatter and gather o

Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-03 Thread Neal H Walfield
Hello, I am running Linux 2.2.12: neal@colo:~$ cat /proc/version Linux version 2.2.12 (root@gondor) (gcc version 2.95.1 19990816 (release)) #1 Sun Sep 12 00:22:57 EST 1999 Starting twelve days ago the load average has increased by one every twenty-four hours. Normally, it remains close to 0.

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-03 Thread Neal H Walfield
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:34:39AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does a top show you any processes running heavy on the box > No, it is 99% idle. -- Neal H Walfield

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > OK, after a bit of thinking it looks like we'll need slightly different > prototype. How about the following? BTW, mem_is_zero() really asks for > inclusion into string.h, IMO. Arrgh. Sorry about that mess. Corrected variant: diff -urN rc8-2/fs/buf

Re: Linux Chat Servers - Respond Off Channel Please

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
Everyone here can use IRC, but I want to also create a place where new developers are encouraged to join the movement. Well, a lot of people don't use IRC at all.. I wanted to make a simple yet easy to use communication forum. Anyone can use this, (in principle) Just wanted to have a central loc

Re: test8-pre2 panics on reboot

2000-09-03 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Tigran Aivazian wrote: > Hi, Hi Tigran, > Attempting to shutdown -r now I got an oops somewhere in send_sig_info() > called from some of this new thread-group stuff, I haven't looked closely > yet. I will, of course, setup the environment (vmware) for debugging this > but I

[PATCH] opl3.c: get rid of check_region + some fixes

2000-09-03 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Hi, Please consider applying. - Arnaldo --- linux-2.4.0-test8-pre2/drivers/sound/adlib_card.c Thu Aug 24 07:40:05 2000 +++ linux-2.4.0-test8-pre2.acme/drivers/sound/adlib_card.c Sun Sep 3 12:48:03 +2000 @@ -20,15 +20,10 @@ static void __init attach_adlib_card(struct ad

test8-pre2 fails to compile [smb]

2000-09-03 Thread Paavo Nikula
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/disks/hdb/src/kernel/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i686 -fno-strict-aliasing -DMODULE -DSMBFS_PARANOIA -c -o sock.o sock.c sock.c: In function `smb_request': sock.c:644: structure has no member named `signal' sock.c:644: stru

Re: Screen corruption on startup 2.4.0-test7

2000-09-03 Thread David Benfell
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 08:52:59AM -0400, James Simmons wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, David Benfell wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I've seen this with earlier versions, starting on my old laptop, a > > Compaq Presario 1250. But I'm now in the interesting position that my > > only access to t

Re: Rik van Riel's VM patch

2000-09-03 Thread safemode
Mark Hahn wrote: > > I can't do such a test because my swap is on the same drive as the one i > > took those tests. But, I ran it at 384MB (128MB of ram) on my other drive > > and this is what it gave me. > > same make/model of disk? > > > ---Sequential Output ---Sequen

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-03 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Neal H Walfield wrote: > Starting twelve days ago the load average has increased by one every > twenty-four hours. Normally, it remains close to 0. At the moment, > they are at twelve; I imagine that tomorrow, they will be at thirteen: Does the kernel log show any oopses?

PROBLEM: DELL PERC/Megaraid RAID driver in Linux 2.2.17pre20 hangs on "Blocked mailbox......!!"

2000-09-03 Thread Deimert, Daniel
LINUX KERNEL PROBLEM REPORT [1.] Megaraid driver in Linux 2.2.17pre20 hangs on "Blocked mailbox..!!" [2.] Full description of the problem: After upgrading to Linux 2.2.17pre20, a medium loaded Squid proxy box running on a DELL 2300 with a PERC Megaraid card hangs completely in the megaraid

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If we go for a Linux-specific solution anyway, maybe one could add > another send{,to,msg} flag that makes send*(2)'s buffer access > non-atomic. That way, the kernel only needs to make sure the pages > don't disappear, but there's no need for expens

test8-pre2: Boot problems

2000-09-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, At boot time of the current pre2 kernel I've got 4 internal errors, then it blocked. After booting the old kernel I have found this in kern.log: : : ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtu

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > I did the same for fragment RX some months ago (simple fragment lists > that were copy-checksummed to user space). Overall it is probably > better to use a kiovec, because that can be more easily used in nfsd > and sendfile. the basic fragment type introd

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-03 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Hedrick) writes: >Apology to Jeff, >I am sorry to here of this, but I know what you mean about microsoft. >My and co-worker's code for doing full taskfile access under linux was >rejected here but is being used in MicroSoft Whistler 2001. They are >quick to grab the ve

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On 3 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: > At CERN we had a bunch of applications where this would be a win, data > aquisition servers taking data in from on some custom hardware and > sending out data over the wire on another card. You never really want > to touch data in memory with the CPU but beca

Re: Stuck at 1GB again

2000-09-03 Thread Kanoj Sarcar
> > Some time ago, the list was very helpful in solving my programs > failing at the limit of real memory rather than expanding into > swap under linux 2.2. > I can;t say what your actual problem is, but in previous experiments, I have seen these as the main cause: 1. shortage of real memory (r

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:21:50PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If we go for a Linux-specific solution anyway, maybe one could add > > another send{,to,msg} flag that makes send*(2)'s buffer access > > non-atomic. That way, the kernel only needs

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > You can already cause incorrect checksums on the wire just by passing > a partly unmapped address (the zero-the-rest exception handler in > csum_copy_generic in i386 forgets to add in the carry) > > I do not believe it is a big deal, packets with bad chec

Re: [Fwd: Client Server NEWS FLASH: Novell Plans To Can 60% Over Time]

2000-09-03 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff V. Merkey) writes: >The other reason I am withdrawing NDS on Linux is to staunch the flow of >blood from Novell's jugular and prevent Microsoft from snatching it up >and using it to kill Novell. Just in case folks don't understand, the Aren't you the guy that announced t

Re: Oops/kernel panic with CD jukebox, 2.4.0-test{6,7}

2000-09-03 Thread Eric Youngdale
- Original Message - From: "Steven S. Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Oops/kernel panic with CD jukebox, 2.4.0-test{6,7} > Anssi V I Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Ingo Molnar wrote: > i believe such zero-copy send should only be allowed for drivers which can > guarantee correct checksums. Hmm, I think this shouldn't be tied too closely to TCP. E.g. you can probably play wonderful ALF tricks with raw sockets. For TCP/UDP, such a restriction may be useful,

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:42:53PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > You can already cause incorrect checksums on the wire just by passing > > a partly unmapped address (the zero-the-rest exception handler in > > csum_copy_generic in i386 forgets to add in

eepro100 trouble

2000-09-03 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
I'm having endless problem with an eepro100 here. After some trying found out that doing a soft reset (ctrl+alt+del) fixed the problem, and that a power cycle made it happen again. Kernel version is 2.2.17pre20 eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers

test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-03 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
Hello Alot of my mailboxes have become corrupt after trying test8-pre2. I'm back down to test7 and everything seems to be working ok so far. I was able to forcibly corrupt a couple of mailboxes by reading unread mail from about a week or so ago and exiting. The mailbox would then be corrupt from

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-03 Thread Thomas Molina
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Mohammad A. Haque wrote: > Hello > > Alot of my mailboxes have become corrupt after trying test8-pre2. I'm > back down to test7 and everything seems to be working ok so far. I was > able to forcibly corrupt a couple of mailboxes by reading unread mail > from about a week or s

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Mohammad A. Haque wrote: > Hello > > Alot of my mailboxes have become corrupt after trying test8-pre2. I'm > back down to test7 and everything seems to be working ok so far. I was > able to forcibly corrupt a couple of mailboxes by reading unread mail > from about a week or

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > 1) the innd data corruption bug > > This, I think, was due to a bug in ext2 truncate. If so, it > should be fixed in test8-pre2. Cool... > > 2) system hangs with 0 free low memory and some free > >high

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Thomas Molina wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Mohammad A. Haque wrote: > > > Hello > > > > Alot of my mailboxes have become corrupt after trying test8-pre2. I'm > > back down to test7 and everything seems to be working ok so far. I was > > able to forcibly corrupt a couple of

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > 1) the innd data corruption bug > > > > This, I think, was due to a bug in ext2 truncate. If so, it > > should be fixed in test8-pre2. > > Cool... Unfortun

Hard lock on boot with both 2.2.16 and 2.4.0-pre7

2000-09-03 Thread Nathaniel Smith
I'm not quite certain if this is a user-mode, kernel, or hardware problem, but there is a reproducible hard lock involved (SysRq keys no longer work, etc.) and I managed to get some Oops output, so maybe someone here can give me a clue what's going on. As it is, I have no idea what to do next, an

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > I'd like to know what it was. Last I heard, it was still the > > case of "pages just off the freelist had some bits set that they > > shouldn't have". That makes me nervous. > > Nope, that was what you /thought/ it was. Rik. You're apparently c

Re: Hard lock on boot with both 2.2.16 and 2.4.0-pre7

2000-09-03 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:56:11AM -0700, njs wrote: [snip problem description] > Thank you in advance for any information you can give. Apologies; I forgot to mention that I'm not subscribed to the list (though I will check the archives), so I'd appreciate it if people could CC: me on any replie

[PATCH] Beos FS support for 2.2.16

2000-09-03 Thread Miles Lott
Pardon me for my not reading the FAQ regarding posting of patches prior to this... Attached is a patch to 2.2.16 to add readonly beos fs support to 2.2.16. Changes in the this patch include: 1. renaming of module to beos.o and of config to CONFIG_BEOS_FS 2. fixed support for nls character set

[Announce] Version 1.5 of x86 performance counters driver

2000-09-03 Thread Mikael Pettersson
Version 1.5 of my x86 performance-monitoring counters driver is now available at http://www.csd.uu.se/~mikpe/linux/perfctr/. Summary of changes since version 1.4: - The virtual perfctr "remote control" facility has been removed, resulting in major simplifications in the driver. Since version

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to know what it was. Last I heard, it was still the > > > case of "pages just off the freelist had some bits set that they > > > shouldn't have". That makes me nervous. > > > > Nope, that was

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Dan Kegel
Ingo Molnar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > yep i agree - in this case a receivefile() implementation would be handy > (we are 100% ready in 2.4 to introduce it - from the pagecache and VFS > point of view, it's just not there yet), thus you could receivefile() your > data into a temporary file, a

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > Rik. > > > > You're apparently completely ignoring the fact that the page > > "already on the LRU queue" was just allocated from > > __alloc_pages() in the backtrace you had. > > It wasn't. If it was allocated there, the boobytraps in > either rmqueu

Re: [PATCH] Magic SysRq help

2000-09-03 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alan Ford wrote: >Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:27:32 +0100 >From: Alan Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: [PATCH] Magic SysRq help > >On more than one occasion I have been hit by a situation where I wished >I could

GPL violations: make it harder

2000-09-03 Thread Elmer Joandi
Andre Hedrick wrote: > My and co-worker's code for doing full taskfile access under linux was > rejected here but is being used in MicroSoft Whistler 2001. They are > quick to grab the very best of Linux and adopt it for their own. ? You mean that they did it illegally and you can show a way

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > Rik. > > > > > > You're apparently completely ignoring the fact that the page > > > "already on the LRU queue" was just allocated from > > > __alloc_pages() in the backtrace you had. > > > > It wasn't. If i

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
> i think it's a quality of implementation issue. The csum_copy_generic > thing is a bug. Allowing incorrect checksums to be sent out would be a > design bug. I think some RFCs do even forbid the sending of incorrect > packets? You are perfectly at liberty to send invalidly checksummed packets. I

Re: Newbie question: mmap() and file descriptor limits

2000-09-03 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 01:42:28PM -0600, Evan Jones wrote: > > I hope this has not been discussed before. I think I have searched the > archive fairly exhaustively. This issue may also no longer exist on the > 2.4 kernel series because I have not tested it on that kernel. > > I have been

Re: Newbie question: mmap() and file descriptor limits

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > it ends up running into the system file descriptor limits which makes > > the system unusable for anything but the web server process. FreeBSD > > does it differenly. Files can be mmaped and do not count towards the > > limit. FreeBSD unmaps

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-03 Thread Andre Hedrick
On 3 Sep 2000, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Hedrick) writes: > > > >Apology to Jeff, > > >I am sorry to here of this, but I know what you mean about microsoft. > >My and co-worker's code for doing full taskfile access under linux was > >rejected here but is being

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jamie Lokier
Alan Cox wrote: > > I just thought I'd mention that you can do zero copy TCP in and out > > *without* any page marking schemes. All you need is a network card with > > No > > > quite a lot of RAM and some intelligence. An Alteon could do it, with > > extra RAM or an impressively underloaded ne

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jamie Lokier
Andi Kleen wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:22:44AM +0200, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > I just thought I'd mention that you can do zero copy TCP in and out > > *without* any page marking schemes. All you need is a network card with > > quite a lot of RAM and some intelligence. An Alteon could do i

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VMnow?

2000-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > What you're saying is that you're ignoring the evidence because you don't > > like it and you don't understand how it happens. > > > > The BUG() was "impossible", so you're discounting it? > > > > I c

Re: Linux Chat Servers - Respond Off Channel Please

2000-09-03 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Everyone here can use IRC, but I want to also create a place > where new developers are encouraged to join the movement. irc.openprojects.net #kernelnewbies Rik -- "What you're running that piece of shit Gnome?!?!" -- Miguel de Icaza, UKUU

RE: VFAT problem

2000-09-03 Thread Nerijus Baliunas
> > I have discovered a problem with the Linux 2.4.0 VFAT filesystem. Short > > names that have mixed case do not retain their case on the VFAT > > filesystem. This has mostly worked in the past on 2.1.x, 2.2.x, 2.3.x > > Is it supposed to? My MS-DOS file system(s) always have shown files > with

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jamie Lokier
Linus Torvalds wrote: > Proof: the data to be sent out is in RAM. In fact, often it is cached > in the CPU these days. In order to start sending out the packet, the > smart card has to move all of the data from RAM/cache over the bus to > the card. It can only start actually sending afte

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-03 Thread Jamie Lokier
Ingo Molnar wrote: > > At CERN we had a bunch of applications where this would be a win, data > > aquisition servers taking data in from on some custom hardware and > > sending out data over the wire on another card. You never really want > > to touch data in memory with the CPU but because of the

Re: Rik van Riel's VM patch

2000-09-03 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Yes, it kicks butt and it finally (just about) removes the final > > Linux kernel showstopper for recent kernels. ;-) > > Things like random memory corruption from dropping dirty bits, > and some of the others are far more serious showstoppers alas Indeed

coda doesn't compile on test8-pre2

2000-09-03 Thread Oliver Neukum
Hi, coda does not compile. gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/oliver/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -malign-functions=4 -fno-strict-aliasing -DMODULE -c -o upcall.o upcall.c upcall.c: In function `coda_waitfor_upcall':

[BUG] sending init a signal causes an oops [was: oops 0002 with 2.4.0-test8-pre2]

2000-09-03 Thread David Ford
It appears to be sending init a signal causes the oops. I have been mucking with my inittab and trying to reload it, i.e. kill -1 1, and that causes the kernel to oops and kills my bash. Here is my oops output, note I also get the oops on reboot/halt are we off by one somewhere? ksymoops 2.3.4

Re: www.crucial.com won't talk to 2.4.0-test7 system

2000-09-03 Thread David Ford
Just set the advertised MSS to 1476, all will be well. -d Elmer Joandi wrote: > Mark Hahn wrote: > > > I'm curious to know what you mean. > > That is your websurfing session. > But try on some 100+ size network to set some > hops go trough a tunnel... the variety of behaviour > and reasons for

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-03 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
Ok, looking better. I havent been able to forcibly corrupt my mailboxes like I did before. Yet anyways. I left my machine for about 10 mins and came back and noticed this... Sep 3 16:46:29 viper kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Sep 3 16:46:29 viper kernel: 21:01: rw=0, want=10709

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