and their reasons are very good reasons.
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Anyway, I would like to follow what Intel does now, we are both stateless
video processor.
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Hello.
I do not know of this particular camera. But I am very pleased to see
continued interest in the sn9c2028 cameras. Congratulations for these two
patches.
Cheers,
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Hans,
Please check the apparent typo in your text below.
what humans to best - what humans do best
As for me, I am happy that I can still see well enough to have caught it.
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Hans Verkuil wrote:
During the mini-summit it was decided that we should put
have a big pile of mr97310a cameras, and that is
exactly what I did. Started sending various commands and checking whether
or not I got different results until I found what works.
So, good luck. The answer is probably there if one looks for it.
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for the patience to work through the
problem. This thread has been an interesting read.
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not see it as a serious one.
The problem is that one's tools have to be up to date. That is up to the
distro. But it is probably well known that some distros are better at
keeping up with things like this than are others.
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boot the new kernel.
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version of some program?
Oh, yes, and to the above we can definitely add that there is surely
enough fun for all in this. Does anyone else want to play? If so, go right
ahead and contact me or Ilya.
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(message with some relevant background information in it follows
capabilities? If so, you might be interested in contacting the Gphoto
project. I just searched for it there, and it does not seem to be listed.
I assume that the specialists on the spca cameras will step forward. I
am not one of them, as I said. Good luck.
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 11-08-2011 17:01, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
As I said, I am agnostic, though leaning in the direction that Hans de
Goede is pointing. What he says about a single control mechanism seems to
make a lot of sense. If you can come up
will not.
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support into the kernel just because the same hardware requires kernel
support for another functionality and the two sides clash. I mean, the
kernel is already big enough, no? But the logic that Hans has set forth
seems rather compelling.
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Okay, I didn't realize that the different cameras used different webcam
drivers as well as different stillcam drivers.
Oh, yes. They are Proprietary devices. And that means what it says
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:33:25PM -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
-- moving the kernel webcam drivers out of the kernel and doing with these
cameras _everything_ including webcam function through libusb. I myself do
not have the imagination
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 10-08-2011 15:33, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Hans seems to have argued cogently for doing all of this in the kernel and
for abandoning the usbfs-based drivers for these particular drivers for
dual-mode cameras and, I would
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 08/08/2011 07:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
snip
Mauro,
In fact none of the currently known and supported cameras are using PTP.
All of them are proprietary. They have
possibilities it is.
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*
* Copyright (C) 2009 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com
but I am not sure about which cameras are using this.
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 08/09/2011 07:10 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
snip
No, but both Adam and I realized, approximately at the same time
yesterday afternoon, something which is rather important here. Gphoto
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-08-2011 23:26, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
(first of two replies to Adam's message; second reply deals with other
topics)
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
This sounds
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
This indirectly answers my question, above, about whatever device there
may or may not be. What I get from this, and also from a bit of snooping
around, is that there is not any dev that gets created
.
So, after starting all of the current mailing-list discussion on the topic
I will not be at the conference. I can only hope that those who do attend
will keep me current about what gets discussed.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 08-08-2011 14:39, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-08-2011 23:26, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
(first of two replies to Adam's message; second reply deals with other
topics
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
This indirectly answers my question, above, about whatever device there
may or may not be. What I get from
the minimal support require to make it work.
You are right. We, basically, can not screw with the internals of
libgphoto2. At the outside, one can not go to the point where any changes
would break the support for other platforms.
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the behavior which one
woulld expect from a real still camera? It has already been done in
camlibs/jl2005c and isn't that enough?
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
I've addec Hans de Geode and linux-usb to the CC as this response picks up
on
a related discussion about the usb mini summit.
On Friday 05 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
If you can solve
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi all,
On 08/04/2011 02:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 03-08-2011 20:20, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
snip snip
Yes, that kind of thing is an obvious problem. Actually, though, it may be
that this had just better not happen
hardware exists with similar characteristics, but sometimes the
functionaliy is not dual but even triple, and one can reasonably suspect
that more of this kind of thing is going to come at us in the future. I
think it is a good occasion to sit back and think things over a bit.
Theodore Kilgore
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 04-08-2011 15:37, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Yes, that kind of thing is an obvious problem. Actually, though, it may
be
that this had just better not happen. For some of the hardware that I
know
of, it could be a real problem
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As far as I know, /dev/sdx signifies a device which is accessible by
something like the USB mass storage protocols, at the very least. So, if
that fits the camera, fine. But most of the cameras
functions in libusb are intended to process
image data from still cameras. For a still camera, frame rate is
irrelevant and meaningless. Therefore the priority is, or ought to be, to
get the best possible image out of the downloaded image data.
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Em 04-08-2011 18:16, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
This sounds to be a good theme for the Workshop, or even to KS/2011.
Thanks. Do you recall when and where is KS/2011 going to take place?
The media workshop happens together with the KS
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As far as I know, /dev/sdx signifies a device which is accessible by
something like the USB mass
to describe what grand vision you
yourself have in mind for the solution of the problem, with a sufficient
accounting of the details that people can all see what it is and exactly
how and why it would work absolutely perfectly, and then we can just get
busy and do it.
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of people will try to think of the best way
to handle it. Many eyes, and all that.
Not saying change your schedule, as I said. Have a nice conference. I wish
I could attend. But I do hope by this message to raise some general
concern about this problem.
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 03-08-2011 16:53, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
As already announced, we're continuing the planning for this year's
media subsystem workshop.
To avoid overriding the main ML
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 06/11/2011 06:19 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
Given the many comments in this thread, I'm just
going reply to this one, and try to also answer any
other ones in this mail
now in libusb. That had escaped my
attention.
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Felipe Balbi wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:16:47PM -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As I have been involved in writing the drivers (both the kernel and the
libgphoto2 drivers) for many of the affected cameras, perhaps I should
expand on this problem
.
Or, to move the libgphoto2 driver to kernel, combine it in the same
driver that handles streaming. No ?
No. Something else is needed.
Alan Stern
Agreed. Something else is needed. But what? Also, very good point about
PTP.
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is speaking here of architecture problems, there is the additional
problem that some ARM systems might have not two PCI buses, but instead
no PCI bus at all.
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Mauro,
A few comments in-line. Vide infra.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-01-2011 21:42, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Have you tried Mauro's media_build tree? I had to use it today to test a
driver from git on a 2.6.35 kernel. Works quite nicely. Perhaps we
. Testers are impatient. Developers are impatient. We are all
impatient when things like this happen. People who are not sufficiently
knowledgeable, who are not sufficiently tenacious, or who simply do not
have sufficient time or motivation will just quit. It is something to
think about.
Theodore
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waiting for me to be less busy and preoccupied.
But I have not lost interest.
Wishing for you and for all of us a peaceful and prosperous year 2011.
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This patch adds the Vendor:Product number of the Lego Bionicle camera to
the existing gspca/sq905c.c and also a line for the camera in gspca.txt.
The camera works out of the box with these small changes. So this is
just in time for Christmas. Think of the children.
Signed-off-by: Theodore
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Hans,
Thanks for the helpful advice about how to set up a git tree for current
development so that I can get back into things.
However
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Paulo Assis wrote:
Hi,
2010/12/18 Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu:
Does anyone know whether, somewhere in the kernel, there exists a scheme
for detecting whether the external power supply of the computer is using
50hz or 60hz?
The reason I
and a workqueue is
another problem interesting little problem. Your thoughts on this
interesting little problem would be appreciated.
As I said, Merry Christmas :-)
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is unfortunately the foreseeable result.
An experimental kernel with some totally unrelated bug which affects my
hardware and meanwhile stops all progress.
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 14:51 -0600, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
Theodore,
Aside from detect measurment of the power line, isn't a camera the best
sort of sensor for this measurment anyway
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Adam Baker wrote:
On Sunday 19 Dec 2010, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Finally, one concern that I have in the back of my mind is the question of
control settings for a camera which streams in bulk mode and requires the
setup of a workqueue. The owner of the camera says
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 18:13 -0600, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
The Software for our Sakar branded Jeilin camera was a little smarter.
Oh. So _you_ had a Sakar branded camera. This was one of the things
product
number in gspca/sq905c.c. I will get around to doing that formally, of
course, when I get time. But if anyone wants just to add the number and
re-compile the Vendor:Product number for the new camera is 0x2770:0x9051.
Merry Christmas.
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distros offer a non-smp kernel as an installation option in case the user
needs it? So in reality how big a problem is this?
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Theodore,
On Monday 13 September 2010 19:17:48 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Friday 07 May 2010 20:20:38 Wang, Wen W wrote:
Hi all,
I'm wondering if V4L2 framework supports dual
compression
algorithm is going to be in use, then clearly it is possible to get the
support going much earlier if information is provided.
Hoping that this will help you and thanking you for any additional
information about the new camera.
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suspect that
the general public would see that 0 corresponds more naturally to off
than 1 does.
Hoping that all is well with you and others.
Cheers, and this is just my two cents on a trivial issue.
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Congratulations. Nice.
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many times the FF D9 is coming up in the data. There may be a
pattern to that.
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Randy Dunlap wrote:
On 03/05/10 16:51, VDR User wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
This is to report
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Randy Dunlap wrote:
On 03/05/10 22:48, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Randy Dunlap wrote:
On 03/05/10 16:51, VDR User wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote
to this but while I do have a 64bit capable cpu,
I compile use only 32bit.
Same here. Let us hope it is the same problem, and it will be possible to
track it down once and fix it.
Theodore Kilgore
minor upgrade of gcc at the same time, and it is possible that this
interfered. I would further speculate that a similar problem happened with
you, in your Debian installation.
Hoping that we have finally tracked this down.
Theodore Kilgore
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Randy Dunlap wrote:
On 03/05/10 16:51, VDR User wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
This is to report the good news that none of the above suspicions have
panned out. I still do
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Hi,
I just upgraded to the stock 2.6.33 kernel in Slackware-current. Also after
having the troubles described below I cloned a completely new copy of the
gspca tree from http://linuxtv.org/hg/~hgoede/gspca, intending to get some
work done
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Randy Dunlap wrote:
On 03/05/10 16:51, VDR User wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
This is to report the good news that none of the above suspicions have
panned out. I still do
/modules/2.6.33-smp/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_main.ko):
Invalid module format
r...@khayyam:/home/kilgota/linux/gspca/gspca_hans_new3/gspca#
Any suggestions?
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there is need to dig
more deeply I am reporting this. I do find the reported error to be very
strange, namely (a typical specimen)
Jan 28 17:56:18 linux kernel: [26920.452427] gspca: frame overflow 77885
77824
Please see the next mail, too.
Theodore Kilgore
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) and so does Andy Walls. I never had any
such problems with my camera, but I do not even own any external USB hub.
Theodore Kilgore
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:49:39 +0100
From: Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de
To: Theodore Kilgore kilg
such information.
Thus, a question for you or for anyone else who reads it:
Has anyone figured out any shortcuts for matching up the missing pieces of
information? Probably the answer is no but I think this is the kind of
question which is worth asking again on some periodic basis.
Theodore
has been fixed, already. A more recent version of sq905c.c is in
the pipeline somewhere.
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:44:06 -0600 (CST)
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
If everyone else is agreeable, I would propose that the recent
changes to sq905c.c should simply be pulled, and that is the best
solution
(D_PROBE,
SQ9050 camera detected
If everyone else is agreeable, I would propose that the recent changes to
sq905c.c should simply be pulled, and that is the best solution to the
problem.
Hans, can you confirm all of this?
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Signed off by: Theodore Kilgore kilg...@auburn.edu
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diff -r 577440e8b8df linux/drivers/media/video/gspca/mr97310a.c
--- a/linux/drivers/media/video/gspca/mr97310a.cSun Nov 01
17:09:15 2009
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Remove struct sd dependency from pac_find_sof() function implementation.
This step prepares separation of pac7302 and pac7311 specific parts of
struct sd.
[...]
But here is the point
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore írta:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Remove struct sd dependency from pac_find_sof() function implementation.
This step prepares separation of pac7302
Kaiser tho...@kaiser-linux.li
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Cc: Kyle Guinn ely...@gmail.com
snip
Szia Marton,
As long as these things work, I would not mind at all. But perhaps this is
a good occasion to bring up an issue which seems to me very much related.
It is the following
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:12:28 -0500 (CDT)
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
[snip]
- as there is only one vend:prod, one line is enough in gspca.txt.
This is a question about which I have been curious for quite some
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
snip
static const __devinitdata struct usb_device_id device_table[] = {
{USB_DEVICE(0x2770, 0x905c), .driver_info =
SAKAR_MICRO_DIGITAL_2428X},
{USB_DEVICE(0x2770, 0x9050
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:56:06 -0500 (CDT)
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Several cameras are supported here, which all share the same USB
Vendor:Product number when started up in streaming mode. All of these
cameras use
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:56:06 -0500 (CDT)
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Several cameras are supported here, which all share the same USB
Vendor:Product number when started up in streaming mode. All of these
cameras use
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 10:51 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 22:39 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Andy,
You are right. Your camera is emitting JPEG while streaming. I just
succeeded
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 22:39 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Andy,
You are right. Your camera is emitting JPEG while streaming. I just
succeeded in creating an image which resembles your test picture by
extracting the frame data for one frame, tacking
very small hardware and (say) one of /bin
and /sbin is symlinked to the other, I find a change like that to be
extremely puzzling. So, really. Why?
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:04 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Sure looks that way. I took a closer look at the lines starting with ff ff
ff ff strings, and I found a couple more things. Here are several lines
from an extract from that snoop, consisting
not laugh at the fact that you get two copies of
3
x6
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side by side, please.
Theodore Kilgore
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 23:38 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Now it is using the other pair of endpoints, 0x03 and 0x84.
H. I wonder if we can use them anyway, without being connected in
webcam mode.
Nope. That was the previously mentioned bug
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:23 -0400, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 23:38 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Now it is using the other pair of endpoints, 0x03 and 0x84.
H. I wonder if we can use them anyway, without being connected
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have no idea off the top of my
head. I do have what seems to be a similar camera. It is
Bus 005 Device 006
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 19:26 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore
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