Heimo Claasen wrote:
>
> Chuck - that swapfile: has it to be created anew just before any
> prog/app is run ? Or could I just leave it "on" ?
A swap file, once created, can be left.
However, you will need to restart swap upon each boot.
Perhaps a rc.local script command will do.
> Well, and
Chuck - that swapfile: has it to be created anew just before any
prog/app is run ? Or could I just leave it "on" ?
Well, and then - can I conclude from this that a swap _partition_ is
basically used like a file ?
(Or else: would programs which need swap create their _specific_ files
in a swap part
Hi, Heimo:
I am glad that you saw my 'tongue in cheek' humor. ;-)
Heimo Claasen wrote:
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> Ok, ok, Chuck - sure "it depends" ;)
> (and oops, hwo do I use a swap _file_ instead of the "prescribed"
> partition ?)
# create and enable a 16 Megabyte swap file
dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap bs=1024 cou
Ok, ok, Chuck - sure "it depends" ;)
(and oops, hwo do I use a swap _file_ instead of the "prescribed"
partition ?)
>From your list, I conclude that it depends on all those six-and-a-half
factors, even if I'm not s convinced what for instance, "distro
AND version" (on top of the kernel number)
Dear Heimo:
If you will tell the list:
EXACTLY which distribution and version of linux and
EXACTLY which kernel and
EXACTLY which applications you will be using concurrently and
EXACTLY what your system's bogo MIPS is and
EXACTLY how fast your hard drive is and
EXACTLY how much RAM you have and
E
It's still not really clear for my when and if, how much swap space is
needed.
There had been two opinions in this thread which clearly pointed to
none at all - surely qualified, one from own experience re
"workstations", the other (and that was the first time I heard about
this at all) that swap
Originally to: Ray Olszewski
RO> While these days I routinely run my workstations without a swap
RO> partition, they have at least 256 MB of RAM.
Ok.
... It's called Windows cuz they breake.
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Originally to: Chuck Gelm
CG> IMHO, it depends. ;-)
Looks like it. I have to test and see.. :)
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It depends.
james miller wrote:
>
> Let me pose the RAM question in another way to see if it can elicit a
> generic, "rule-of-thumb" response this way. If a person uses their
> computer as a sort of personal workstation using a fairly recent distro
> and requires that it have an Xwindows gui, usi
It depends.
james miller wrote:
>
> Let me pose the RAM question in another way to see if it can elicit a
> generic, "rule-of-thumb" response this way. If a person uses their
> computer as a sort of personal workstation using a fairly recent distro
> and requires that it have an Xwindows gui, usi
Ray Olszewski wrote:
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> It's hard for me to think sensibly about what I'd do
> on a system with, say, 16 or 32 MB of RAM, because I
> can't seriously imagine setting up such a system as a
> workstation today
You might be surprised at the number of people today trying
to install Linux on comp
james miller wrote:
>
> Let me pose the RAM question in another way to see if
> it can elicit a generic, "rule-of-thumb" response
I'm happy to give you my personal "rule-of-thumb",
but that's all it is. It's not an absolute truth.
Every system gets at least 16mb of total memory.
So, a system
At 01:22 PM 12/9/02 -0500, james miller wrote:
Let me pose the RAM question in another way to see if it can elicit a
generic, "rule-of-thumb" response this way. If a person uses their
computer as a sort of personal workstation using a fairly recent distro
and requires that it have an Xwindows gui,
Let me pose the RAM question in another way to see if it can elicit a
generic, "rule-of-thumb" response this way. If a person uses their
computer as a sort of personal workstation using a fairly recent distro
and requires that it have an Xwindows gui, using applications like web
browsers, email
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The latest Slackware (8.1) still provides a low-mem kernel.
> However the standard installation scheme is too big to run
> in 8mb RAM. The instructions say 16mb RAM is required,
> although 12mb is probably enough with the low-mem kernel.
> For machine
Ditto to what Ray said.
Perhaps you could run your system with a 'swap file' and see
how big it ever gets. Then make a swap partition just that size
or a little larger. ;-)
My current firewall-router (aDSL to 100 Mb LAN) has 32 megabytes
of RAM and has not used any swap memory, AFAICR.
Ano
Ray Olszewski wrote:
>
> (only Slackware, I think, still offers a "low memory"
> install option)
The latest Slackware (8.1) still provides a low-mem kernel.
However the standard installation scheme is too big to run
in 8mb RAM. The instructions say 16mb RAM is required,
although 12mb is probab
At 01:15 PM 12/8/02 +, Rolf Edlund wrote:
Originally to: james niland
jn> I know some people who run happily without a swap at all.
How low RAM can I use, without running a swap ? Can I for example do it on
a 486
with 4 MB RAM ?
The way you ask this question, it has no real answer. How
Originally to: james niland
jn> I know some people who run happily without a swap at all.
How low RAM can I use, without running a swap ? Can I for example do it on a 486
with 4 MB RAM ?
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On 7 Dec 2002, Heimo Claasen wrote:
> James - that's quite new to me:
> > ... that when your system has a crash it is
> > still capable of writing a core dump to the harddisk.
>
> I understood it hitherto that it's needed for cases when a program needs
> more mem than is free and available ?
> Or
James - that's quite new to me:
> ... that when your system has a crash it is
> still capable of writing a core dump to the harddisk.
I understood it hitherto that it's needed for cases when a program needs
more mem than is free and available ?
Or asked the other way round - would any program whic
The current wisdom is ram should be at most equal to memory installed and
nothing over. Back in the early days of linux there was one system that
needed twice the ram but that's history and not valid for modern systems
and kernels. In fact, that system was a BSD system not Linux.
Jude
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The basic idea of the swap partition being double the
size of ram is that when your system has a crash it is
still capable of writing a core dump to the harddisk.
I think not many people really require that for a home
system or a system that is not critical.I know some
people who run happily withou
As I'm increasing the RAM installed to the threefold of what there is
now, I wonder if I have to change/resize the swap partition.
(At present the swap is a small bit larger, 364 MB, than memory installed.
I sometimes read advice that the swap partitions should be _twice_ the
installed RAM; but I
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