tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-11 Thread Rolf Edlund
Originally to: Ray Olszewski RO> "all" information? Hardly. H... RO> Neither "man tar" nor "tar --help" gave *me* enough information to be RO> able to answer his original question (though it did point me to the RO> -M option, which I suggested trying), If his version of Tar hadn't have

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-09 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Gents , One word , df . Hth , JimL On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > dashielljt wrote: > > I've never tried this and have never heard of > > any success with this idea either. > I do not see the problem. It is easy to create a > compressed archive file (let's call i

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-09 Thread dashielljt
Wrong, the extract command in the second part would have to be tar xvf not tar cvf. Jude - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-09 Thread dashielljt
You're not asking any developer of tar that question, and I haven't studied the program's source code so can't answer your questionn. Jude - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.k

tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread Jerry James Haumberger
>> As it stands, it's possible to backup to multiple floppy >> disks with tar, but these cannot be compressed during the >> archival process. >Why not use tar twice: first with -zcf to make a compressed >archive and then with --multi-volume to write the archive >to floppy. Of course to retri

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread ichi
dashielljt wrote: > > I've never tried this and have never heard of > any success with this idea either. I do not see the problem. It is easy to create a compressed archive file (let's call it backup.tgz). Tar happily tars a single file, so why can't it tar backup.tgz (multi-volume)? Chee

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread dashielljt
I wouldn't try that in that way, but the basic idea might work. I say might because I've never tried this and have never heard of any success with this idea either. One might do something like: tar czf * | tar cmvf - /dev/fdd0/backup.tar.gz. This pipes the compressed result into a multivolume me

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread ichi
Jerry James Haumberger wrote: > > As it stands, it's possible to backup to multiple floppy > disks with tar, but these cannot be compressed during the > archival process. Why not use tar twice: first with -zcf to make a compressed archive and then with --multi-volume to write the archive to

tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread Jerry James Haumberger
>> One of these commands.. >> >> # man tar >> # info tar >> # tar --help >> >>..will give you all information you need about your tar version. >"all" information? Hardly. Neither "man tar" nor "tar --help" gave *me* >enough information to be able to answer his original question (though it >di

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread ichi
Ray Olszewski wrote: > > my system (like many; it really has not caught on, despite > pressure from the FSF crowd) does not even have the "info" > system installed. (Does BasicLinux install it?) No, BasicLinux does not have info (although it does have some man pages). BasicLinux is designed fo

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 08:08 PM 12/7/02 +, Rolf Edlund wrote: Originally to: Jerry James Haumberger JH> The question remains: How can I back up -- with tar or any other JH> Slackware 3.5 program -- my 9 MBs of files from the BasicLinux JH> console with multiple floppies? And in compressed format? One of t

tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-08 Thread Rolf Edlund
Originally to: Jerry James Haumberger JH> The question remains: How can I back up -- with tar or any other JH> Slackware 3.5 program -- my 9 MBs of files from the BasicLinux JH> console with multiple floppies? And in compressed format? One of these commands.. # man tar # info tar # tar

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread whitnl73
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Chuck Gelm wrote: > I did > > tar -cyvf /boot /dev/fd0 > and > /mnt# tar -xyvf /dev/fd0 > and it created > /mnt/boot/ > and all the files from /boot appeared in /mnt/boot Yes, it will do that. cd to where you want the files restored to first, or use -C: tar -C / -xyvf /d

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread Chuck Gelm
I did tar -cyvf /boot /dev/fd0 and /mnt# tar -xyvf /dev/fd0 and it created /mnt/boot/ and all the files from /boot appeared in /mnt/boot Next I tried tar -cvMf /dev/fd0 /etc and after some floppy action, I was prompted: "Prepare volume #2 for /dev/fd0 and hit return:" I'd recommend runn

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread ichi
Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: > > Compressed you are not going to accomplish easily . > Maybe someone else can address a method of compressing > the input INLINE with the multi-volume archive issue . Couldn't this simply be done by using tar twice: first tar with -zcf and then tar the result m

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread ichi
Jerry James Haumberger wrote: > > The question remains: How can I back up -- with tar or > any other Slackware 3.5 program -- my 9 MBs of files from > the BasicLinux console with multiple floppies? And in > compressed format? It would be possible to create a compressed archive and then spli

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread Chuck Gelm
Hi, Jerry: What version of 'tar' do you have? tar --version Please show us your exact command line and the exact error message(s). I am guessing that your command line should be: tar -cyvMf /dev/fd0 /directory_to_be_backed_up ... tar -xyvMf /dev/fd0 ? 'y'=bz2 compression, 'z'=gzip comp

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Jerry & all , If it is Slackware the tar binary provided is Gnu-Tar . Try doing a 'tar --help' & report the output from 'tar --version' . There maybe issues with certain versions of tar . Another item to look at is can you read floppies on yo

tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-07 Thread Jerry James Haumberger
Hello everyone -- Thank you for offering me various suggestions on how to possibly get tar to make a backup archive on multiple floppies. Sorry to say, none of the suggestions worked. The only result was that tar would make an archive in whatever directory I happened to be in when creating the a

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread dashielljt
Take the b option out of there completely I think. Blocks are used for tapes but not normally disk devices such as floppy disks. Jude On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Chuck Gelm wrote: > Howdy, dashielljt: > > I was thinking along the same lines. I am only familiar > with the last option being 'f'. Yet

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread Ray Olszewski
Chuck, you're right on target about how the agruments that get parameters get them. Skipping the problematic "k" part for the moment, a command like tar cvfb somefilename.tar 40 some_files_to_tar_up would work just fine, putting whatever matched some_files_to_tar_up in somefilename.tar

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread Chuck Gelm
Howdy, dashielljt: I was thinking along the same lines. I am only familiar with the last option being 'f'. Yet I noticed that the 'b' command needs an operator too. Perhaps the operators are appended in the same order they are requested by the options. 'f' filename.ext or /dev/* 'b' block size

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread dashielljt
Whoever got that manual should be given a full refund by slackware if it is as you say. The f in that command string has to precede a device name and file path. Jude On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jerry James Haumberger wrote: > Hello everyone -- > > An old Slackware 3.0 manual suggests the following com

Re: tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread dashielljt
maybe tar cvbkf /dev ... will work. Jude On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jerry James Haumberger wrote: > Hello everyone -- > > An old Slackware 3.0 manual suggests the following command with > tar for a full backup onto 3.5" floppy disks: > > tar cvfbk /dev/fd0 1440 4 / > > I've read that the "k" option is

tar for "full" floppy backup?

2002-12-06 Thread Jerry James Haumberger
Hello everyone -- An old Slackware 3.0 manual suggests the following command with tar for a full backup onto 3.5" floppy disks: tar cvfbk /dev/fd0 1440 4 / I've read that the "k" option is supposed to cause tar to prompt for adding multiple disks as the archive exceeds the size of each floppy di