Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-12 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:02:27 -0500, Stephen Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > This blurb in the latest Kernel Traffic has some status information on > ext3 and ACLs that might be relevant. 12-18mo for a really stable > version, but version 0.02 is supposed (maybe already) to be out very > s

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Stephen Waters
This blurb in the latest Kernel Traffic has some status information on ext3 and ACLs that might be relevant. 12-18mo for a really stable version, but version 0.02 is supposed (maybe already) to be out very soon. http://kt.linuxcare.com/kt19991011_38.html#2 -- stephen waters internal sysadmin amic

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:58:46 -0400, Tom Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hmm, well GFS isn't exactly an improvement on NBD, it's more like an > entirely different filesystem type. GFS is a shared disk filesystem. It doesn't care how the disk is shared, and one of the side projects

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Tom Kunz
Hmm, well GFS isn't exactly an improvement on NBD, it's more like an entirely different filesystem type. I was talking with Simon Horman of VA-Research at Internet World in NYC this past week, and he feels that it'll be 12 to 18 months until we have ext3 and/or some other kind of nicely-w

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:55:23 -0400, Tom Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Stephen (and others who might know), > Are there homepages and/or mailing lists for these teams? I would be > highly interested in participating... One is the GFS team at http://gfs.lcse.umn.edu/. The other has

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Tom Kunz
Stephen (and others who might know), Are there homepages and/or mailing lists for these teams? I would be highly interested in participating... Thanks, Tom "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > There are at least two teams working on beefing up NBD, including the > addition of proper connect

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-11 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:59:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G.W. Wettstein) said: >> If this works, you can also add a third machine and make a threefold >> raid1 for added HA. Curious myself if this would work. Unfortunately >> cannot test this myself. > This strategy for doing HA has interested

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-06 Thread G.W. Wettstein
On Oct 5, 6:12pm, Marc Mutz wrote: } Subject: Re: networked RAID-1 Good morning to everyone following this thread. I hope that this note finds your day going well. > That will do _nothing_ for you, because: > > 1.) you can only mount it r/w on exactly one machine. > 2.) even if

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-05 Thread Paul Jakma
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Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-05 Thread Paul Jakma
Re: Multi host access SCSI buses. GFS is what you guys want. Filesystem that will allow multiple access at the drive level. eg 2+ seperate hosts accessing a drive simultaneously. Seagate are co-operating to develop a SCSI standard for drive locking. (firmware updates available). Search for GFS o

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-05 Thread James Manning
[ Tuesday, October 5, 1999 ] Marc Mutz wrote: > That will do _nothing_ for you, because: > > 1.) you can only mount it r/w on exactly one machine. > 2.) even if 1) is ok for you, you cannot even mount the array ro on the > other machines, because of Linux' disk caching. Although I have to admit

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-05 Thread Marc Mutz
Tom Kunz wrote: > > Linux-based software alternative to the super-expensive external RAID > towers that have multiple independent SCSI buses. They run for $10k > each, and you can connect multiple machines into them, which will all > mount the array simultaneously. Any node can go down at any

RE: networked RAID-1

1999-10-05 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
A few applications for some of this thought. 1) I have long lusted after something Like MC/ServiceGuard on Linux. My favorite setup is one EMC RAID box being shared by two HP-UX systems, inter-connected with MC\ServiceGuard. Running thin-server Oracle makes this a sweet deal. Two of these with Or

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya tom if the idea is to have a "fail safe" system when we were doing doa work for the gov't... we had to have multiple redundancyand redundancy for the redundancy... ( gov't had too much $$$ to throw at it ) but basically, how I would like to see a "HA" type linux system would have

RE: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Bryan Batchelder
s. Laters, --Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jakob Østergaard Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: networked RAID-1 On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 04:55:04PM -0600, Brian Grossman wrote: > >

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Jakob Østergaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 04:55:04PM -0600, Brian Grossman wrote: > > Has anyone tried running sw-raid1 over linux's network block device? I've > been tempted, but not quite tempted enough yet. I think I saw that on the lkml. There were some problems (mainly performance under heavy load, IIRC).

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Joakim Ahlen
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Andy Poling wrote: > I don't remember the real nitty-gritty details, but someone proposed using > software RAID 1 and NBD (network block device) to do what you're talking > about. The ball got kicked around for a while, and I think one or two folks > even tried it. Couldn'

RE: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Stanley, Jeremy
t; Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: networked RAID-1 > [clip] > mount the array simultaneously. Any node can go down at any time, > regardless of any cron schedule, and no data will be lost. But thanks > [snip]

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Brian Grossman
Has anyone tried running sw-raid1 over linux's network block device? I've been tempted, but not quite tempted enough yet. Does sw-raid1 require synchronous data xfer for the block devices involved? If so, can sw-raid1 be told to not require synchronous data xfer? Does it make any sense to do s

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Andy Poling
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Tom Kunz wrote: > SW-RAID List, > This is slightly off-topic. No, in fact it might be further than just > "slightly". I have been exploring redundant network filesystems for > Linux, off and on for the past several months. I need something that > will replicate a fs ac

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread Tom Kunz
Well, rsync isn't real-time data duplication. It's like an intelligent rcp. What if a database got created and updated and then the host system crashed 20 seconds before the rsync was scheduled to run? The data is lost until the original server comes back up. I'd like a Linux-based sof

Re: networked RAID-1

1999-10-04 Thread vincenzoj
try rsync? JV Tom Kunz wrote: SW-RAID List,     This is slightly off-topic.  No, in fact it might be further than just "slightly".  I have been exploring redundant network filesystems for Linux, off and on for the past several months.  I need something that will replicate a fs across a lan, m