Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread David A. Mann
C Falconer wrote: > It seems that knoppix is the thing to give newbies at the moment :-\ Back in my day all we got was Slackware on 3.5" floppies... if we were LUCKY! :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)

Re: Wierdo with dchpcd

2002-09-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 06:04:10PM +1200, Vik Olliver wrote: > > dhcpcd is the client, dhcpd is the server. > > What had happened, I can now say in the pleasant glow of hindsight, is > that the Red Hat netconfig tool appears to have set the network card > that I didn't ask it to configure (eth1)

Re: Wierdo with dchpcd

2002-09-08 Thread Vik Olliver
On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 00:59, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 10:01:46PM +1200, Vik Olliver wrote: > > I'm truing to run the DHCP daemon dhcpcd on my RH7.3 box. I have two > > ntework cards. When I run dhcpcd it kills off the eth0 device as if I'd > > done an "ifdown eth0" > > > >

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Nick Elder CLUG
Sounds good enough for me, c u there! On Monday 09 September 2002 1:10 pm, Paul wrote: > well on irc.linux.com .. #clug looks ok .. I've registered it .. so pop in > and give it a try ... undernet is a really awful network - even > slashnet.org is a bit slow .. part of the reason I suggested my

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Paul
well on irc.linux.com .. #clug looks ok .. I've registered it .. so pop in and give it a try ... undernet is a really awful network - even slashnet.org is a bit slow .. part of the reason I suggested my own was to cut down international traffic .. anyway - See you on irc.linux.com ... use /join

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Nick Elder CLUG
May I suggest we try it, but use one of the openprojects servers such as irc.openproject.net or irc.linux.com these can be found in most linux clients menus. I particularly like xchat that comes with most distros now days. Click on the first button on the top menu called sim

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread C Falconer
Yes - but whats the address? Or simply join the #clug or #nzlinux channels on undernet. On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 11:31, Gareth Williams wrote: > And excellent idea IMO :-) > > > On Monday 09 September 2002 11:20, Paul wrote: > > Just a starter for 10 .. > > > > is there an IRC channel where some

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Oh god.. I can see it now, you think this list attracts spam... /me wields his micro$oft destroying sword of debian /me iS a l33T h4X0r d00d, u R l4MerZ jeremyb. > From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/09/09 Mon AM 11:20:08 GMT+12:00 > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: IRC any

Re: IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Gareth Williams
And excellent idea IMO :-) On Monday 09 September 2002 11:20, Paul wrote: > Just a starter for 10 .. > > is there an IRC channel where some clug members can be found. > > I was wondering about hosting a #clug channel on my IRC server. > > it might help take some of the "spam" element out of the

IRC anyone?

2002-09-08 Thread Paul
Just a starter for 10 .. is there an IRC channel where some clug members can be found. I was wondering about hosting a #clug channel on my IRC server. it might help take some of the "spam" element out of the list... thoughts ?? Paul Swafford (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worce

security holes (was: combined file sizes info, how ?)

2002-09-08 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:51:41AM +1200, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: > Start preaching to the converted how Microsoft products > are better because you find out about the security holes > more often, so obviously they are more dedicated to finding > and fixing them and that linux is lacking severely

Re: A story.

2002-09-08 Thread Zane Gilmore
Yes, the "advanced user interface" that they refer to is probably just a reference to XML or suchlike in which case they have not even had a look at Mozilla and if the site doesn't work with it then they are not making any effort at w3 compliance. If they are talking about using vbscript instead

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread Yuri de Groot
I've seen them on sale @ $5/cd at e-caf in the arts centre. I believe paul swafford, the manager of e-caf, is on this list. btw I bought knoppix and openoffice - $10 well spent. thanks paul :-) >Well, since I last asked, 0 people have generously offered me copies of the >latest version of RedH

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread C Falconer
It seems that knoppix is the thing to give newbies at the moment :-\ On Sun, 2002-09-08 at 18:22, Michael wrote: > Well, since I last asked, 0 people have generously offered me copies of the > latest version of RedHat, Mandrake and Caldera. I want to send them to a > linux-newbie so he can t

RE: While we're at it...

2002-09-08 Thread Andrew J Sands
Andy, ( & other list dwellers ) I'll make an attempt to point you in the right direction..YMMV You'll need to modify your sendmail.cf(mc) file, usually on RedHat you have to install the sendmail-cf(something) rpm. Then its mostly a case of RTFM...Use google, I found some interseting stuff w

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread Michael
>is he already willing to install linux? >i would have suggested to let him play with knoppix first... He's a real PC techie so he's beyond the knoppix stage, but I did plan to give that to him as well. Thanks, Michael.

Re: HOWTO flame was: combined file sizes info, how ?

2002-09-08 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:44:57PM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > The cli in question was in the Wonderland morph of Squeak Smalltalk on > an iMac. Unix environment coming up next term, because OS-X goes in over > the holidays. huh? os-x is unix. and what unix environment is that going to

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 06:22:01PM +1200, Michael wrote: > Well, since I last asked, 0 people have generously offered me copies of the > latest version of RedHat, Mandrake and Caldera. I want to send them to a > linux-newbie so he can try them out. is he already willing to install linux? i wou

Re: Wierdo with dchpcd

2002-09-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 10:01:46PM +1200, Vik Olliver wrote: > I'm truing to run the DHCP daemon dhcpcd on my RH7.3 box. I have two > ntework cards. When I run dhcpcd it kills off the eth0 device as if I'd > done an "ifdown eth0" > > Anyone know what causes this and how I might fix it? dhcpcd is

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread newslett
The latest "official" Mandrake is 8.2 (a bit dated now) but 9.0 is due out in the next few weeks. By all accounts it's meant to be VERY good and well worth the wait. I tend to agree as I run Cooker (the Mandrake devel version) and update it daily (or almost daily) and it does indeed rock. I wo

While we're at it...

2002-09-08 Thread Andy George
While I'm on an EMail trip...  Has anyone else run into Fetchmail taking close to FOREVER to get mail?  or perhaps thats just a "me" thing...

Re: ATTENTION Newbies

2002-09-08 Thread Nick Rout
Sorry to hear that Trev However there are many newbie guides out there, most of them have been pointed out before. How about making your efforts available for others to finish off? Regards, Nick > Hi All > > Due to bad health i'm unable to complete the Newbies Getting starting guide > at th

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread Michael
> > Well, since I last asked, 0 people have generously offered me copies > > of the latest version of RedHat, Mandrake and Caldera. I want to send > >AFAIK you need to purchase a license to use Caldera these days. >Your nearest Caldera VAR might give you a "demo" copy if you ask nicely. Oh well

Re: Wierdo with dchpcd

2002-09-08 Thread Andrew Kemmy
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:01:46 +1200 Vik Olliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm truing to run the DHCP daemon dhcpcd on my RH7.3 box. I have two Have you told dhcpd about both of your network interfaces ? > ntework cards. When I run dhcpcd it kills off the eth0 device as if > I'd done an "ifdow

Wierdo with dchpcd

2002-09-08 Thread Vik Olliver
I'm truing to run the DHCP daemon dhcpcd on my RH7.3 box. I have two ntework cards. When I run dhcpcd it kills off the eth0 device as if I'd done an "ifdown eth0" Anyone know what causes this and how I might fix it? Vik :v)

Sendmail

2002-09-08 Thread Andy George
Lets see if I can explain this properly...   Client :-   Windows 2000 Pro (MCSE Student...Neccessary evil...), Outlook Express (??)   Server :-   RedHat 7.3 complete with Sendmail and Fetchmail...   This setup was intended to poll my ISP's mail server every hour for mail, and hold it in the

Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-08 Thread Andrew Kemmy
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:22:01 +1200 Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, since I last asked, 0 people have generously offered me copies > of the latest version of RedHat, Mandrake and Caldera. I want to send AFAIK you need to purchase a license to use Caldera these days. Your nearest Calde