Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 06:50:02PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > I can certainly understand your particular situation. Incidentally I also have > a laptop at home and 100 Mb to my desktop and still find CD's more convenient, > but that's me. Heh... interesting. You have to make an ISO, burn i

Re: LPI

2002-12-01 Thread Mahesh De Silva
Hi, I use it as part of there corporate training program.. not sure, if the same course are available to the public. Mahesh > Hi Mahesh, > > So can you do the exam and everything from NZ? I > went to executrain.com but > couldn't find the LPI course...have you got a link > to it? > > Thanks f

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Michael Beattie wrote: [...] > I could do the upgrade at home, and it wouldnt bother me in the slightest. > but since I have a Debian mirror at work, and it's a laptop, (read: mobile), > I can easily plug it in here, and upgrade in a matter of minutes. 100mbit > beats 128k, ha

Re: Auto expire kmail emails

2002-12-01 Thread James Grant
Settings -> Configure KMail Click on the miscellaneous icon, then in the "On program exit, perform the following tasks", tick the "Expire old messages" check box, you probably want "Compact all folders" on as well. On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:49, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I have set kmail to expire mess

Re: LPI

2002-12-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:15, you wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone done the Linux Professional Institute training course? Can it be > done in NZ? It seems like it would be a lot cheaper than doing an > equivalent RedHat one. Read the books, play with a Linux machine, take the test. Prometric http://www.2

Re: LPI

2002-12-01 Thread Simon Hansman
Hi Mahesh, So can you do the exam and everything from NZ? I went to executrain.com but couldn't find the LPI course...have you got a link to it? Thanks for that, it might be a holiday mission to do one of them :) Later Simon On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:24, Mahesh De Silva wrote: > Hi Simon and All.

Auto expire kmail emails

2002-12-01 Thread Paul
Hi, I have set kmail to expire messages after 7 days in one my folders. Is it possible to have them automatically expired instead of manually clicking "Expire"? -Paul

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 17:25, Mark Tomlinson wrote: > I understand why RPM is a pain for major updates, but how is debian/gentoo > better when it comes to something not provided by the distro packager? I go > for source if I can't find what I want on the supplier's disks/website. A few things can be

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Mark Tomlinson
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Sawtell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Distributions > All very true, but all the distros which use the rpm install method are an > absolute pain because of the dependencies when it

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Rout
Ok, I'm pleased you've had agood experience with upgrades. Its not the impression I have had. Its good to see. On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:15:50 +1300 (NZDT) "Ryurick M. Hristev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is FUD. I've done tons of Redhat upgrades within the last 4 years > and I never had probl

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:30:07PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > I thought we were talking about a modem here remember ? You said you've done > hundreds of those :-) I have. I used to quite regularly... daily in fact. daily was no more than 10-20M. Like I said, I've gotten lazy. sue me.

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:55:41PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: [...] > Need to get 294MB/379MB of archives. After unpacking 24.3MB will be used. ^ > ok, so it's 379 on my laptop. as you can see, I havent upgra

Re: LPI

2002-12-01 Thread Mahesh De Silva
Hi Simon and All.. I am sort of working on this at the moment, via executrain.. seems good.. Not really sure if it will increase the old pay packet tho.. :) Redhat one is good.. (every expensive tho) The problem is with the web interface for the onlune course runs on shockwave 8.31.. so i need t

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Nick Rout wrote: > Upgrading an rpm system surely requires about the same amount of > downloading as upgrading a debian system. If apache needs an upgrade > because of a security flaw, you download and install. RedHat doesn't strip their libs so these are much bigger (makes e

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:55:41PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > 300M ? You are not talking about a PDA are you ? ;-) mjb@toolbox:~> sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg --get-selections | grep -v 'deinstall$' | awk '{print $1}') ... 133 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 463 reinstalle

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:55:41 +1300 (NZDT) "Ryurick M. Hristev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, 180 MB over a modem that is at least 9h. OK, do you leave it overnight > .. or have a second POT line at ~350$/year ? And what happens if the carrier > gets dropped ? In my recollection apt-get

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:08:41PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > > I though you were talking about upgrades ... you know ... when you download > > about 1-2 GB (binary only and compressed). > > > > Oh, wait, you did, you did :-) > > > > How

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Rout
Upgrading an rpm system surely requires about the same amount of downloading as upgrading a debian system. If apache needs an upgrade because of a security flaw, you download and install. Also redhat, debian and mandrake all have more or less successful methods of doing this whilst tracking depen

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:08:41PM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > I though you were talking about upgrades ... you know ... when you download > about 1-2 GB (binary only and compressed). > > Oh, wait, you did, you did :-) > > How many Debian upgrades have you actually done over 56k modem

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:01, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > My advise to a complete newbie to get quality help to install either one > > > of the source distros or Debian or one of

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:01, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > [...] > > > My advise to a complete newbie to get quality help to install either one > > of the source distros or Debian or one of its offspring. You can then > > upgrade with a one-line comman

Re: Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Newbie + "One line command" = Put off for life. The package management stuff in RH8 is very nice these days, comes with nearly everything you could ever need, can't see why complicating matters for them would be of any use. > From: Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/12/02 Mon P

Re: PHP IDEs

2002-12-01 Thread Zane Gilmore
Wow! I'm impressed, I have to admit I hadn't looked for a while for a PHP ide but I suppose lots can happen in a year or so. I will have to try this out. Has anybody else tried it? On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 13:54, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote: > > > Kate is

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote: [...] > My advise to a complete newbie to get quality help to install either one of > the source distros or Debian or one of its offspring. You can then upgrade > with a one-line command. This is easier said than done. It looks to me that some peo

Re: PHP IDEs

2002-12-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote: > Kate is an editor that seems to cope quite well with the double syntax > of php work (shame about it's stability), there is also an XEmacs > major-mode that works OK. > > When you say IDE do you mean debugging etc or just syntax hilighting? > Unfortunatel

My questtion on Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Kevin Linux account
I take by the replies I have had back to my question, that I should be sticking the Mandrake distribution Thank you Regards, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Distributions-Knoppix

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Elder
On Monday 02 Dec 2002 12:53 pm, Nick Elder wrote: > Can anyone sell me a copy of the latest Knoppix? > Please, > Nick Elder > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Request replied to: Thank you > > On Monday 02 Dec 2002 12:44 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > > one really cool option these days is to use a knoppix live cd to

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:26, you wrote: > RedHat 8, it's just like installing windows 98, very simple > was quite impressed when I installed it recently. All very true, but all the distros which use the rpm install method are an absolute pain because of the dependencies when it come to do major upd

Re: PHP IDEs

2002-12-01 Thread Zane Gilmore
Kate is an editor that seems to cope quite well with the double syntax of php work (shame about it's stability), there is also an XEmacs major-mode that works OK. When you say IDE do you mean debugging etc or just syntax hilighting? Unfortunately debugging software is notoriously hard to put toget

Re: Distributions-Knoppix

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Elder
Can anyone sell me a copy of the latest Knoppix? Please, Nick Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 02 Dec 2002 12:44 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > one really cool option these days is to use a knoppix live cd to install > from. > > an up to date debian with EVERYTHING. > > http://www.linuxworld.com/site-st

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Rout
one really cool option these days is to use a knoppix live cd to install from. an up to date debian with EVERYTHING. http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/1104.barr.html?post=581&lastpage=1 PS I think you still have to partition your disk by hand, thats not TOO bad though! On Mon, 02 Dec

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Yuri de Groot
If the newbie was installing hir own, I'd agree with the RH, MDK crowd. If I was selling pre-installed linux boxen I would consider the apt-get or emerge capable distros, but heavily pre-config before I shipped them out the door. Thus spake Kevin Linux account on this Mon, 02 Dec 2002 : ] Out of i

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
RedHat 8, it's just like installing windows 98, very simple was quite impressed when I installed it recently. > From: Kevin Linux account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/12/02 Mon AM 11:56:39 GMT+13:00 > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Distributions > > Out of interest if you were recome

RH -> Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Marcus Liddle
I'd tend to agree. RH has plenty of support around the place... * I'd avoid distros like Debian; FreeBSD ...the more heavy-weight guys :) ...doesn't Mandrake default install have a lot of groups which would hinder a novice -- but mean less chance of shooting yourself in the foot ?? ...just l

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Elder
On Monday 02 Dec 2002 11:56 am, Kevin Linux account wrote: > Out of interest if you were recomending a distributon to some one who is > new to Linux, which one would you recomend > > Regards, > Kevin > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, I think it is questions like this that course flaming wars in some

Re: Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 11:56, Kevin Linux account wrote: > Out of interest if you were recomending a distributon to some one > who is new to Linux, which one would you recomend Red Hat. I suspect Mandrake is slightly easier to use (I've never used it but I've heard it's good) but you are more likel

Distributions

2002-12-01 Thread Kevin Linux account
Out of interest if you were recomending a distributon to some one who is new to Linux, which one would you recomend Regards, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CLUG meeting 5th Dec Workshop update.

2002-12-01 Thread Lance BLACKLER
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CLUG meeting 5th Dec Workshop update. Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 10:00:49 +1300 (NZDT) Perhaps its time to ask for anyone who wants an install? Other inline comments below. > ISSUE 2: > > Modem / PPP fi

Re: Users attached to server running SAMBA as PDC??

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Cheetham
smbstatus tells you what files are in use, this is a pretty good approximation to who is logged in, especially with drives in use. Latest versions may be better :-) -jim --On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:58 am +1300 C Falconer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 10:28, Andrew J Sand

Re: Issue 4: Sun 3/50 - postponed - sorry

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Elder
re:"CLUG meeting 5th Dec Workshop update." Sunday 9:01am. Yuri, No worries. I see that I have missed the posting in the CLUG list from Paul in my posting on Sunday. So we should still have five participants in the meeting. Also is there anyone that wants an install?

Re: Curly brackets??

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:06:56AM +1300, C Falconer wrote: > if VAR contains > ls ; rm -rf / > then eval $VAR would run > ls > rm -rf / > whereas eval ${VAR} would run > "ls ; rm -rf /" > and would return > ls ; rm -rf /: Command not found. mjb@bofh:~> VAR=ls mjb@

Re: Curly brackets??

2002-12-01 Thread John Blance
in the below example nothing; ${VAR} allows substitution without separation. i.e. VAR=bob ${VAR}IABLE = bobIABLE whereas $VARIABLE is undefined there are also some advanced uses of ${VAR} type constructs, like ${VAR:-OTHERVAR} which evals to $VAR if VAR is set and $OTHERVAR otherwise etc.. john

Update to the group - OT: Quiet day - want an Xterminal

2002-12-01 Thread C Falconer
Okay - I have people interested in a total of 25, so I'm now negotiating with the leasing company for the cheapest price I can get. I'll let ya know how it goes, but they probably won't be here for the meeting on the fifth.

Re: Curly brackets??

2002-12-01 Thread C Falconer
if VAR contains ls ; rm -rf / then eval $VAR would run ls rm -rf / whereas eval ${VAR} would run "ls ; rm -rf /" and would return ls ; rm -rf /: Command not found. On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 10:01, Nick Rout wrote: > what is the difference between $VAR and ${

Curly brackets??

2002-12-01 Thread Nick Rout
what is the difference between $VAR and ${VAR} apart from a whole lot of tricky keystrokes?? -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Anyone have some good logon scripts for SAMBA clients?

2002-12-01 Thread Peter van Hout
Sounds like sound advise to me and that is what we do. Peter van Hout -Original Message- From: C Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 9:04 a.m. To: Linux Users Group Subject: Re: Anyone have some good logon scripts for SAMBA clients? Search through the regi

Re: Anyone have some good logon scripts for SAMBA clients?

2002-12-01 Thread C Falconer
Search through the registry on the client machine - make any instance of "c:\my documents" point to "h:\" You could create a .reg file to make these changes, then apply them to each machine. Then you need to train the users to save their personal shit^H^H^H^Hstuff on H drive (Home drive) and stuf

Re: Users attached to server running SAMBA as PDC??

2002-12-01 Thread C Falconer
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 10:28, Andrew J Sands wrote: > Is there a way to tell either/or how many or which users (ie client > machines) are attached to a Linux RedHat server running SAMBA configured as > a PDC with roaming profiles?? Do you want a linux or a windows answer? Windows: Run server man

Re: [Fwd: [opensource] Favorite Linux Distribution]

2002-12-01 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
I think thats probably more indicative of the type of person who hangs out on such a site rather than the popularity of the distribution. > From: Bjorn Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/12/02 Mon AM 11:38:53 GMT+13:00 > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Fwd: [opensource] Favorite Li

LPI

2002-12-01 Thread Simon Hansman
Hi, Has anyone done the Linux Professional Institute training course? Can it be done in NZ? It seems like it would be a lot cheaper than doing an equivalent RedHat one. Cheers Simon -- Simon Hansman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

re: upgrade 7.3 -> 8.0

2002-12-01 Thread Keith McGavin
correction to typo, Your setup with /dev/hda1 partition as /boot and /dev/hda2,hda3... as / targets for each distro should work .. On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Keith McGavin wrote: > multi distro system > --- > Your setup with /dev/hda1 partition as /boot and /dev/hda1,hda2...

live video

2002-12-01 Thread stacy stacy
hey have any of you got some live video feeds through linux? i mean like security cameras or something? _ http://www.gamedev.net";>GameDev.net Email Service - "Plenty of 1's and 0's" _

[Fwd: [opensource] Favorite Linux Distribution]

2002-12-01 Thread Bjorn Nilsen
Just thought I would let you all know about this poll. As would be expected Debian is leading. -Forwarded Message- From: Peter Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [opensource] Favorite Linux Distribution Date: 01 Dec 2002 22:07:52 +1300 What is you favorite Linux