Re: slashdot meetup Q

2004-04-05 Thread InfoHelp
Not me! Someone else must have reg'd it. I thought (8) meant respondents. Never mind - staying home online must be the modern socialisation! (Cuts down oil demand wars,at least) Cheers Rik On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:07:04 +1200, David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: LOL. Looks like it is jus

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Jason Greenwood
I've stayed well away from this but I just have to say - as always - I am a Mandrake man myself and probably always will be for one reason or another. I try other distro's periodically but I always seem to come back to 'Drake. Sure the QA (or lack thereof) pisses me off sometimes but all in al

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
LinPopup is really close to what I was after. It uses smbclient -M for sending. Great for sending to Windows machines which normally have the service "messaging" on as default. For Linux machines LinPopup needs to be running to receive messages. I use this type of messaging to contact family m

RE: slashdot meetup Q

2004-04-05 Thread David Taylor
LOL. Looks like it is just you as there has been only one vote and that one was "No Preference" for location. Ciao, Dave -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2004 3:02 p.m. To: CLUG (E-mail) Subject: slashdot meetup Q Hi folks, anyone here

booting LTSP with usb flash drive or pcmcia NIC

2004-04-05 Thread Paul William
Hi all, Anyone tried booting ltsp with a usb flash drive? Anyone know if you can get pcmcia NICs that can take rom chips? Cheers Paul

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
I did my first Gentoo installation with help from Nick. My second installation was done almost completely by myself. The point is: If I can do it, anyone with a couple of years Linux experience should be able to do it. The documentation is very good IMHO and covers everything with good explanat

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
the handbook seems to be back up. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:58:02 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 06 April 2004 13:11, Don Gould wrote: > > I thought I'd have a read of the web site and sort things out for my > > self... > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handboo

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 12:45, Nick Rout wrote: > On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:43:16 +1200 > > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in fact it's currently impossible to > > install it if you don't have a 'Net connection, > > i say what? Yes, with only the universal and packages disks tha

slashdot meetup Q

2004-04-05 Thread InfoHelp
Hi folks, anyone here a part of this?: Thurs 22/4/4 7pm http://slashdot.meetup.com/884 Cheers Rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 13:11, Don Gould wrote: > I thought I'd have a read of the web site and sort things out for my > self... > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 > > The link above only lead me to a list of topic headings. Symptom of the growing pains I mentioned e

RE: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread David Taylor
I would vote for Suse, especially now that Novell has it. I don't think I am ready for gentoo myself. Support from here or at news://support-forums.novell.com or the web somewhere. It is one distro that just worked right away for me. When I get a chance, I will be installing it again. Mandrake

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread InfoHelp
You have to answer this for yourself.. Collect some current distro disks (see Paul @ecafe if urgent), and try them out to see what you like best / works for you. Mandrake is ok, but still buggy. RedHat are counting themselves out, but try Fedora.. (RH9.0 is solid). SuSE has by far the best har

RE: Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Lance Blackler
Don - Some of us are using Mepis to install a pretty up to date (testing/unstable) Debian for desk top use, I for one have found it to be very good, the mirrors all work fine and very easy to configure. It installs very quickly from a live CD, with a 2nd CD of extra app's - based on Knoppix, bu

Re: Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Mike Beattie
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 01:11:13PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: > Debian support on the local mirrors doesn't seem that good and frankly it It should, and if it's not, please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] letting them know. linux.citylink.co.nz, (if that's what you're referring to) *is* ftp.nz.debian.org.. it

Gentoo Again... --> Mandrake?

2004-04-05 Thread Don Gould
I thought I'd have a read of the web site and sort things out for my self... http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 The link above only lead me to a list of topic headings. Maybe I should be looking at Mandrake? That also seems to be popular around here. Would that be a

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 12:49, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: > Not quite correct Chris... > > From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=3 > > Generally you will need to setup networking (and Internet). However, Gentoo > also provides the possibility to install with

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Mike Beattie
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 12:57:29PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: > I just need to get in to this Gentoo thing sooner rather than later if > that's what I'm doing. > > As I said, many of you guys seem to like the Gentoo option. > > When I was in Australia I got into Debian and Redhat because that's what

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread InfoHelp
Me too Patrick, This community is the most knowledgeable, cutting edge computer user group in the Canterbury/Waitaha region. There is nothing more advanced to choose from that I am aware of, and it is educationally important to be a part of the community, warts & all. We can only learn the ways

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Besides, some rude comments the other way whenever she has a "no email today" etc day should help. Should help with what? ... preventing her wanting her previous software back? You said she was being rude to you. She never had "other software". When we got the computer, I t

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Regarding the GRP. Taken from the handbook. The Gentoo Reference Platform, from now on abbreviated to GRP, is a snapshot of prebuilt packages users (that means you!) can install during the installation of Gentoo to speed up the installation process. The GRP consists out of all packages req

RE: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Don Gould
Nick and others, Thanks for your kind assistance as usual. > Oh and isn't it a little brutal to experiment on an unknown (to you) > distro for a client??? Agreed. That's why I'll use a distro I know for some bits of the system. I just need to get in to this Gentoo thing sooner rather than late

RE: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Gentoo is a proper pain to set up, in fact it's currently impossible to install it if you don't have a 'Net connection, but once you have a working system it's a dream to use and administer. ATM they are suffering from 'growing pains' to some extent. -- Not quite correct Chris... >From http

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:43:16 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The advantage of the site is that it is available at full adsl speed to all > xtra customers, no, to all jetstream/start cistomers, you do not need to be with xtra. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:43:16 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in fact it's currently impossible to > install it if you don't have a 'Net connection, i say what? -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 11:47, Don Gould wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a mirror for Gentoo in NZ? ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo/ The advantage of the site is that it is available at full adsl speed to all xtra customers, but it's not an 'official' mirror so it's not always completely u

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> >Besides, some rude comments the other way whenever she has a "no email > >today" etc day should help. > > Should help with what? ... preventing her wanting her previous software back? You said she was being rude to you. > CUPS is my best guess. It runs as root. Hmm. I'm using it in very diff

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
if you want to do it, say, from a script, you can pipe a mesage into it, eg: echo "Come and get your dinner before it goes cold"|smbclient -M MILES one problem is that there is no guarantee that winpopup is running on \\MILES, and there doesn't seem to be an error message generated (although the

RE: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
For your /etc/make.conf file... Add these GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo http://linux.citylink.co.nz/gentoo"; (linux.citylink.co.nz = 210.48.103.6 and ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz = 203.96.92.95) SYNC="rsync://linux.citylink.co.nz/gentoo-x86-portage" Regards, Robert Som

RE: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Great, Tried Linux to Windows here at work using.. smbclient -M and it worked. Linpopup looks as though it might be helpful too. I will keep you posted. Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Mike Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:07:14 +1200 "Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We could use my box as a demo machine I suppose. I could put off doing > etc-update on my box until the day so we can show this. > > I wonder if you have suggested too many topics Nick? There could be a r

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
Oh and isn't it a little brutal to experiment on an unknown (to you) distro for a client??? On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:47:38 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a mirror for Gentoo in NZ? I'm sure this was covered but I now > have a list of Gentoo related emails about

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
oh and they are not official gentoo mirrors either. they are often a little behind. for example on citylink the portage tree is often a day ahead of the distfiles. if you want an official mirror use mirrorselect to choose the best one for you. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:52:54 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Jamie Dobbs
Don Gould wrote: Hi All, Is there a mirror for Gentoo in NZ? I'm sure this was covered but I now have a list of Gentoo related emails about a mile long. ftp.citylink.co.nz/gentoo should do the trick

Re: Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz - on ftp only not http linux.citylink.co.nz - http for sure, ftp too i think. citylink does not have a full mirror of the stages and package cd's. jetstreamgames does seem to. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:47:38 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Is th

Gentoo Files... Getting Started... No time to wait...

2004-04-05 Thread Don Gould
Hi All, Is there a mirror for Gentoo in NZ? I'm sure this was covered but I now have a list of Gentoo related emails about a mile long. My situation regarding Linux changed over the weekend. I went from just doing research to having a client who I have to get up and running with a bunch of diff

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Mike Beattie
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:51:34PM +1200, Nic Scott wrote: > I send messages to windows computers with > > #> smbclient -M HOST > > you then type your message and quit and send with control-d. > > Im not to sure how too recive winpop ups in linux... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> apt-cache search linpopu

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Jaco Swart
Sorry to see you go Patrick, your contributions were good... knowledgeable on a variety of topics, too. -J Patrick Dunford wrote: I'm unsubbing, because this list gets too many messages that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. Some of the other user

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
We could use my box as a demo machine I suppose. I could put off doing etc-update on my box until the day so we can show this. I wonder if you have suggested too many topics Nick? There could be a risk of taking on too much in one session. I have got by so far without knowing anything about etcat

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
Nick Rout wrote: I tried that but the woolworths website took longer to navigate. Apparently so, but it was possible to save your cart, so to speak, was it not? Subsequent weeks required only adding a few extra into your standard cart. I knew a guy (my PhD supervisor actually. Well, one of them,

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
Patrick Dunford wrote: I'm unsubbing, because this list gets too many messages that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. By my count, you've posted 21 messages in the last 7 days, not counting today. I would guess that puts you well into the top 10 (along

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
I tried that but the woolworths website took longer to navigate. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:49:02 +1200 Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not going to my local supermarket anymore, because they have too > many products that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much > time g

RE: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Steve Bell
> I'm not going to my local supermarket anymore, because they have too > many products that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much > time going through them. What a good idea, Carl. I think I shall quit reading the newspaper too, as it has too many articles and adverts that don't i

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: sorted out (she makes a rude comment about Linux in comparison with Windows every time something like this happens). You need to educate her better!! ;) She's educated enough alright. Just likes to have a dig now and then when my Linux raving proves somewhat idealistic.

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Paul William
he could have asked 'is there another way to view messages?'. An then someone could have told him to read the list archive. Patrick Dunford wrote: I'm unsubbing, because this list gets too many messages that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. Some of

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
I'm not going to my local supermarket anymore, because they have too many products that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. Cheers, Carl.

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 10:20, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > I wonder if someone blindly plugging some distro forgot to check that it > was all about /var/tmp... Yes. -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 10:15, Carl Cerecke wrote: > It was actually /var/tmp. Isn't that usually a bit more persistent than > /tmp? Not sure. Yes, it is persistent. From the File Hierarchy Standard http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#THEVARHIERARCHY The /var/tmp d

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Agreed, the problem should not have occurred. I wonder if Debian, which I wonder if someone blindly plugging some distro forgot to check that it was all about /var/tmp... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/

Re: unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
ok good bye On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:16:28 +1200 Patrick Dunford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm unsubbing, because this list gets too many messages that don't > interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. > > Some of the other user groups have digests and other ways

unsubscribing

2004-04-05 Thread Patrick Dunford
I'm unsubbing, because this list gets too many messages that don't interest me at all and I have to spend too much time going through them. Some of the other user groups have digests and other ways of viewing lists that aren't offered here. This is a way better way to receive messages.

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> sorted out (she makes a rude comment about Linux in comparison with > Windows every time something like this happens). You need to educate her better!! ;) A "you can use winblows as much as you like, but don't bother coming grovelling to me" has always worked for me... Besides, some rude comm

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 09:01, Carl Cerecke wrote: Good luck to any newbie trying to sort that problem out. It's a problem that should never have occurred in the first place. Grrr. Agreed, the problem should not have occurred. I wonder if Debian, which does a complete wip

Re: Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 09:01, Carl Cerecke wrote: > Good luck to any newbie trying to sort that problem out. It's a problem > that should never have occurred in the first place. Grrr. Agreed, the problem should not have occurred. I wonder if Debian, which does a complete wipe and reset of /tmp on

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-04-05 Thread Brad Beveridge
I don't think I can make the mini-install fest, but here is a Tip & Trick I wrote about using etc-update using a graphical diff. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=29045&highlight=graphical+etcup date Brad > -Original Message- > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
OK people who are attending the gentoo mini installfest, you can see what Brad's suggestion is - include a little talk on maintaining your gentoo distro. Who is going to do this and prepare a set of materials? I will do some of it, and present if necessary, but help will be needed. My suggestion i

Strange printer problem solved

2004-04-05 Thread Carl Cerecke
My wife, a few days ago, wanted to print a few pages of a large spreadsheet from OpenOffice. Accidentally, she printed the whole thing. When the pages she wanted had come out, she turned the printer off, even though it had not finished. Fair enough, considering there was no obvious way that she

RE: New Kernel

2004-04-05 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Well that makes me feel great as I had a painless upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6. I printed off the 2.4 config and more or less matched what I could to the new config, used the knowledge/experience I had and it worked flawlessly. Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:48, Paul William wrote: > netcat ;) I went to http://www.atstake.com/research/tools/network_utilities/nc110.txt but it made little sense to me. Either spell it out for me or give me something easier. (I tried RTFM but "je ne comprends pas") > > Robert Fisher wrote: > > On

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Nic Scott
I send messages to windows computers with #> smbclient -M HOST you then type your message and quit and send with control-d. Im not to sure how too recive winpop ups in linux... cheers Nic. Robert Fisher wrote: On Windows you can send a message to other computers using "net send computername me

Re: "net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Paul William
netcat ;) Robert Fisher wrote: On Windows you can send a message to other computers using "net send computername message" Is there an equivalent for Linux?

Re: Moving a large amount of data

2004-04-05 Thread Paul William
Nick Rout wrote: There is a version online (copyright redHat 2000) http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ LOL. From http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ "To Deb — My lover, editor, indexer, and friend…" Its very good if you DO have to work with rpm. On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:42:39 +1200 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTE

"net send"

2004-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Windows you can send a message to other computers using "net send computername message" Is there an equivalent for Linux? -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center. -- Homer Simpson Lisa the Gre