Oh, dear, this is embarrassing.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which svn
/usr/local/bin/svn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
damn. Sorry about that, and thanks for all your help.
(I needed to do some cunning things, like checking out and compiling
an old version of svn to recover my repository files as the one in
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 17:04, Andrew Tarr wrote:
> Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Right. If you're on Debian stable.
> > subversion is available only on testing and unstable, as far as I can
> > tell (from apt-cache policy subversion). So go and have a look at the
> > bug-tracking
Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right. If you're on Debian stable.
> subversion is available only on testing and unstable, as far as I can
> tell (from apt-cache policy subversion). So go and have a look at the
> bug-tracking system, and see if you're alone.
>
> -jim
Have done so. I'
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 04:31:39PM +1200, Andrew Tarr wrote:
> svn: error while loading shared libraries: libneon.so.23: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> this happens both with the subversion from debian testing and
> unstable.
What's the output from 'dpkg -s subver
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 16:31, Andrew Tarr wrote:
> so what's going on? How do I fix it? And should I tell debian?
> After all, you should just be able to go
> apt-get install subversion
> and it should work. Right?
Right. If you're on Debian stable.
subversion is available only on testing and u
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Projects/Website/ajourn$ svn
svn: error while loading shared libraries: libneon.so.23: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
this happens both with the subversion from debian testing and
unstable.
version libneon.so.23 seems to not be in debian anymore,
Mike Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> So, Andrew, have you found a solution, or are you still battling?
>
> Mike.
> --
> Mike Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZL4TXK, IRLP Node 6184
nup, still battling. apt-get upgrade didn't help.
this is the auth.log stuff for a cons
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 12:46, Roy Britten wrote:
> I learnt a lot about badly-designed sites that didn't degrade
> gracefully.
Actually, it is often the problem of NS-4, rather than the site. Let me
elaborate.
A good XHTML document will look very plain and boring if the browser
does not understan
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 13:01, Craig FALCONER wrote:
> Are we going for the "longest subject path in the clug archive" award?
Yes.
--
Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 12:44, Roy Britten wrote:
> Have a look at http://csszengarden.com
I took some of my inspiration from Zen Garden, but I have less talent
and there is only one of me :)
--
Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yes, but they are slower if you view them via satellite.
OT: If you're using sat then just be happy that my web sites get to you at
all... anything that has to travel a million miles to get to you when it
could
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 13:22, Carl Cerecke wrote:
> Jim Cheetham wrote:
> > Now, there is an interesting debate on whether a programming language
> > should be case-sensitive, but hopefully none on whether or not _data_
> > should be case-sensivive.
>
> Data should be case sensitive. Right? We agre
Jim Cheetham wrote:
Now, there is an interesting debate on whether a programming language
should be case-sensitive, but hopefully none on whether or not _data_
should be case-sensivive.
Data should be case sensitive. Right? We agree on that don't we? Mostly?
OK. Now here's the revelation:
A prog
The butler did it.
Are we going for the "longest subject path in the clug archive" award?
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:49 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - Do Not Use Frames in Web Design - ... Warning: RAN
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:17, Don Gould wrote:
>
Warning heeded :-)
> (Those with case sensietiv linxu browers please upgrade to
> something more standard)
The "standard" is set by the W3C, not by Microsoft - nor indeed by
Netscape as-was. XHTML uses XML, and XML is case-sensitive. The standard
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:17:46AM +1200, Don Gould wrote:
> CCS was simply invented to make websites more data entensive than ever if
> you ask me.
> It also completely takes user control away.
You need to rent this[0], repeatedly.
[0] http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0088930/
-mjg
--
Matthew Grega
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 at 10:31am, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
> [1] I have yet to hear a compelling reason to use NS-4.
The option isn't always there.
For a while in a previous life I had an SGI running Irix with
NS4 and restrictions on what software could be installed. I
learnt a lot about badly-de
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 at 11:44am, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
> > CCS was simply invented to make websites more data entensive than ever
> > if you ask me.
...
> > It also completely takes user control away.
> It gives the user control back.
>
> * In Firefox, Go to http://ldots.org/ and click on the c
:) Fun game! I am impressed\ldots
So I do not get flamed for playing along, I promise to add a few tips
about Firefox in my comments below, marked with a *.
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:17, Don Gould wrote:
> id="is there where I put my credit card number?">Use frames if you want
> to!
The tag is
ure Opera and Firefox are smaller and faster than NS-4. However,
> installing software is beyond most users\ldots
> --
> Michael JasonSmith
> http://www.ldots.org/
>
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Font Size for title{Size: 200pt color: 00ff22 colour: 0077ff}
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 10:02, Douglas Royds wrote:
> I worked through all of "Grokking the GIMP" by Carey Bunks.
>
> The GIMP offers a pretty steep learning curve, so this book was a huge
> help. My only complaint was that the images used in the examples (all in
> the public domain) were not avai
> [1] I have yet to hear a compelling reason to use NS-4.
True
> I am fairly sure Opera and Firefox are smaller and faster than NS-4.
Firefox runs circles around NS4 - especially on old PCs.
> However, installing software is beyond most users\ldots
Firefox 0.8 installs itself . The only two downsid
> so i conclude that tucows is hopeless, and go back to freshmeat :-) I
> used to download a lot of windows shareware/freeware/trialware from
> tucows before i discovered linux, and its not a bad service.
> But I could
> not recommend it for linux users.
We all know that Don is using Windows. I
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 07:00, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> I thought that not using tables was the current fad, putting the
> design into the style sheets, and the content into the html.
Using CSS tends to be the way to go if you are l33t, but if anyone
requires Netscape-4 compatibility you have to rethi
The best site I have found for random downloads (apart from URPMI and
the MDK mirrors of course) is:
http://rpm.pbone.net/
Cheers
Jason
Nick Rout wrote:
I thought i'd try this out, and chose postfix as a trial. the process is
dreadful, and the results are worse.
1. click on the link david post
I worked through all of "Grokking the GIMP" by Carey Bunks.
The GIMP offers a pretty steep learning curve, so this book was a huge
help. My only complaint was that the images used in the examples (all in
the public domain) were not available on his web-site. I had to find
them on the net the ha
I thought i'd try this out, and chose postfix as a trial. the process is
dreadful, and the results are worse.
1. click on the link david posted. (http://tucows.inspire.net.nz)
2. in the search box at the top enter "postfix" and choose "linux" in
the drop down box, click 'go'
3. get diverted to t
> I'd like to be able to go a page where I put in the type of
> machine and OS
> I'm using then get a complete list... I guess that's what
> download.com is
> for but that's not a local mirror is it?
Tucows does all that. They have a local mirror at
http://tucows.inspire.net.nz
Later
David K
That is correct but tables are not nearly as bad as Frames...from an
online advertising/optimisation perspective. CSS is the best way to
design a site, for sure...
Flash is about the only thing worse than frames. If you don't want your
site to EVER be found on the net, build it in Flash only.
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:18:45 +1200, you wrote:
>Sorry, this is OT but I HOPE you are not using frames...they are one of
>the 'banes' of Web Design for MANY reasons, not the least of which is
>web advertising. I specialise in Web Advertising so trust me, I know
>what I am talking about...
>
[sn
Chris Wilkinson wrote:
Hi there,
I'm writing a commercial website for my brother in-law. It needs some
JavaScript help to complete the navigation frame...the Linux link?
I'm developing it in Mandrake Linux using Gimp/KWrite/other OSS... :-)
Anyway, I have lovely image buttons for the nav frame, a
Sorry, this is OT but I HOPE you are not using frames...they are one of
the 'banes' of Web Design for MANY reasons, not the least of which is
web advertising. I specialise in Web Advertising so trust me, I know
what I am talking about...
Also, check out this page:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/
Hi there,
I'm writing a commercial website for my brother in-law. It needs some
JavaScript help to complete the navigation frame...the Linux link?
I'm developing it in Mandrake Linux using Gimp/KWrite/other OSS... :-)
Anyway, I have lovely image buttons for the nav frame, and image swap
routines a
;>When I'm on Windows - happens regularly - I'm one of the
> > >>people on the St
> > >>Albans Neighbourhood Network - I try to use Mozilla, or Firefox.
> > >>http://www.mozilla.org/
> > >>Unfortunately I don't know of any NZ mirrors. Sorry.
> > >
> > >Thank you for your recommendation.
> >
> > --
> > InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
> >
> >
> >
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:53, Don Gould wrote:
> > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > how soon did you look at the folder to see if it moved?
>
> Seconds later... I flicked to Mozilla (after waiting for Mozilla mail to
> finish doing what it was doing - moving the records) clicked the refre
>people on the St
> >>Albans Neighbourhood Network - I try to use Mozilla, or Firefox.
> >>http://www.mozilla.org/
> >>Unfortunately I don't know of any NZ mirrors. Sorry.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thank you for your recommendation.
> >
> >
> --
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>
>
>
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> http://www.nod32.com
>
>
> From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> how soon did you look at the folder to see if it moved?
Seconds later... I flicked to Mozilla (after waiting for Mozilla mail to
finish doing what it was doing - moving the records) clicked the refresh
button (the application one rather than the browse
speaking of which, apart from the gentoo effort, has anyone organised
something in chch?? it keeps slipping back...
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:22, Jamie Baddeley wrote:
> Fellow NZ_Luggites,
>
> Wellylug (http://www.wellylug.org.nz) is pleased to announce we are
> undergoing the annual ritual of the
Did you find the req'd local mirror Don?
If not, I can notify one for Firefox.
Rik
Don Gould wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Wesley Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I'm on Windows - happens regularly - I'm one of the
people on the St
Albans Neighbourhood Network - I try to u
Fellow NZ_Luggites,
Wellylug (http://www.wellylug.org.nz) is pleased to announce we are
undergoing the annual ritual of the InstallFest. This year we have
chosen MayDay (1st May) as the day that people can make the choice to
add some freedom into their computing. We think MayDay is the ideal time
RTFLMAO Good spotting...
I'm assuming he meant...on our cellphones
Jim Cheetham wrote:
On Apr 13, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Don Gould wrote:
"Who do we ring if our telephones don't work?" is the line I would hear
every day.
No-one. Your phones don't work.
On Apr 13, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Don Gould wrote:
"Who do we ring if our telephones don't work?" is the line I would hear
every day.
No-one. Your phones don't work.
try going into the South library (up where the Heathcote county coucil used to
be) it has some good books on linux etc, got one out now called begining
linux programming 3rd edition written by Neol Matthew & Richard Stones.
dave.
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:22, you wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:3
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:36, Don Gould wrote:
> I had a very interesting conversation with one of the buyers at the ccc
> library about oos books and magazines today.
>
> I know what other sorts of books I'd like to see them stocking but what
> does everyone else think?
>
> I'd like more 'application
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:33, Don Gould wrote:
> I attempted
> to move mail between folders and it didn't seem to move. I'm not sure why.
> Mozilla showed it as moved but my web interface didn't. My current thought
> is that I really need to set up some test imap mail systems and learn a lot
> more
I had a very interesting conversation with one of the buyers at the ccc
library about oos books and magazines today.
I know what other sorts of books I'd like to see them stocking but what does
everyone else think?
I'd like more 'application' books. That could be tough as no one seems to
be writ
Thanks Jason,
I covered 2 out of 18 today.
I installed both Mozilla and Firefox for web browsing.
I also ran the Cacheman wizards so it's a bit hard to get any acurate
comparision between what I was seeing performance wise and what I'm getting
now because I've changed to many factors.
Mozilla i
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:14:11 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi guys/girls,
>
>A site I have to visit regularly was taking firefox forever to resolve
>the host IP so I had to wait quite a while every time I clicked a link
>on the site. I decided to find a proxy dns server and I found pdnsd
>(btw, BIND can
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 15:16, Vik Olliver wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 11:55, Michael wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There's been some on-list discussions and questions in the past about
> > Linux apps and desktops for kids. This came through on slashdot in case
> > anyone is still interested:
> >
> >
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