Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!

2005-01-30 Thread Hugo Vincent
Hi everyone, Yesterday I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC - a much needed conversion as I see it - he's a devout windows junkie (but keen to try linux :)... So it got about 20 seconds into the install process, chose language and so on, then had a fatal error (still in the

Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, January 30, 2005 9:21 pm, Hugo Vincent said: Hi everyone, Yesterday I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC - a much needed conversion as I see it - he's a devout windows junkie (but keen to try linux :)... So it got about 20 seconds into the install process, chose language and

Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!

2005-01-30 Thread Hugo Vincent
Thanks Nick, On 30/01/2005, at 9:35 PM, Nick Rout wrote: snip I thought we could try a network install (either over the internet or off my laptop?) but i couldn't find any instructions on how to do that. can someone please point me in the right direction? apparently there is no network install

Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, January 30, 2005 9:47 pm, Hugo Vincent said: Thanks Nick, On 30/01/2005, at 9:35 PM, Nick Rout wrote: snip I thought we could try a network install (either over the internet or off my laptop?) but i couldn't find any instructions on how to do that. can someone please point me in

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:35:36 +1300 yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:28:48 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: Some people prefer to work from the command line, even if they're in an X session, so a method of elevating privs that also preserves $DISPLAY and X auth is useful.

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread Daniel Grant
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:35:36 +1300 yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:28:48 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: Some people prefer to work from the command line, even if they're in an X session, so a method of elevating privs that also preserves $DISPLAY and X auth is

Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
For the last couple of years a group of us have run mini-installfests for those wanting gentoo on their computer. The Gentoo install, while well documented and not really difficult, tends to daunt some people as its very command line oriented, and it helps if you know how a linux distro fits

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread yuri
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:43:29 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: so you can run an X app after su'ing in an xterm? thats unusual because unless you take some explicit step other users (incl root) are not allowed to access your X server. Sometimes, when Julia is logged in as herself and I want to check my

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread xhen
Hi, This is my first post to the list. I've been lurking and reading mostly to get a feel for the conversation going on, most of it over my head but all of it interesting :) Anyway, I'd definately be keen in this Gentoo installfest. I have been playing around with installing 2004.3 on my

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread Martin Bähr
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 12:10:00PM +1300, yuri wrote: Sometimes, when Julia is logged in as herself and I want to check my email, instead of logging her out, I start an xterm, type su yuri, my password, then kontact and it starts up my mail client as an X app. here is why this might work:

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread yuri
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:03:37 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: [Snip blah blah Gentoo yadda yadda 2005.0 rhubarb rhubarb binaries] Anyway, just an indication of interest is all i'm after at this stage. I'd be keen. Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread yuri
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:23:02 +0100, Martin Bähr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 12:10:00PM +1300, yuri wrote: Sometimes, when Julia is logged in as herself and I want to check my email, instead of logging her out, I start an xterm, type su yuri, my password, then kontact

RE: Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Lance Blackler
I might be keen too, been thinking about giving it a go for a while now. Lance -Original Message- From: yuri Sent: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:33:54 +1300 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Gentoo installation-fest? On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:03:37 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: [Snip

Damn windows passwords - SOLVED

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
I have set up a new backup server here, and I'd managed to save a password into XP's password list. Unf the password was incorrect. I searched everywhere to find and remove the saved password from the XP box. It no longer saves them in pwl files in c:\windows. In the end I had to run

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Actually sux was discussed on this list some months ago, yuri mentioned it - i thought at first that it was a SuSE'ism, but on investigation that is not so. SuSE's version of sux is 100% made by SuSE. I bet several people had the same idea and all called it sux. Some distros have the

NFS

2005-01-30 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Next problem is why nfs can't deal with 80 Gb files... suspenders:/belt/aghs-server/1# l ls: 2005-01-28-Friday.bkf: Input/output error Older versions of NFS are restricted to 32 bit filepointers and therefore 4GB filesizes. You'll have to upgrade, though I don't know which version is

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-30 Thread Martin Bähr
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 01:39:45PM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Some distros have the functionality of sux built into su, eg Redhat and as Yuri says Mandrake. This is a bad idea for security as in effect this transfers security to the target user by granting unlimited access to the X server.

Security vs Convenience (Was: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't)

2005-01-30 Thread yuri
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:56:03 +0100, Martin Bähr wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 01:39:45PM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Some distros have the functionality of sux built into su, eg Redhat and as Yuri says Mandrake. This is a bad idea for security as in effect this transfers security to the

Re: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive

2005-01-30 Thread Jim Cheetham
Vik Olliver wrote: I dunno, I bought the thing with a 3 1/2 enclosure and PSU for less than that. NZ$48 inclusive from Easycomm if I recall correctly. Flashcards are shipping a 2.5 USB2 drive enclosure for around $26 at the moment, I've just bought a couple for running backups :-)

Re: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive

2005-01-30 Thread Lee Begg
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:06, Jim Cheetham wrote: snip No power needed, although if you want (suggested for long data transfers) you can string on a second USB cable (supplied), that's used only for power. It is a *very* good idea to connect both. I have had one disk that would not spin up at

Re: Security vs Convenience (Was: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't)

2005-01-30 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:04:34PM +1300, yuri wrote: If you trust the members of your household, having lax security for convenience on the home side of the firewall, but with a darn good firewall between the LAN and the internet is an okay solution - even if it makes the

RE: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
Yeah - they're very good. Most laptop drives can be powered fine from a USB port (my 10 Gb hitachi works fine) However I could not power it from an unpowered USB hub, even with nothing else in the hub. The answer was to plug the drive directly into a USB port on the machine. And even a 2 Gb

Re: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive

2005-01-30 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:17 +1300, Lee Begg wrote: It is a *very* good idea to connect both. I have had one disk that would not spin up at all without both connected. Or better yet use an AC converter/power plug. Excellent suggestion. It is also a good idea to use a powered USB hub when

RE: Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Steve Holdoway
How are you going to do this? I'm happy to build an install server that all can use, and bring it along. It'll be a bit of a learning process for me. I wan looking at sorting out a quad ethernet card for this box, but it requires a riser, which I haven't got. Even so, 100Mbit should be faster than

RE: Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread David Hole
Has anyone had any experience installing the Gentoo dist. to an external usb drive. I've got a 40gb usb drive that I've made a 10 gb partition in that I would like to install bootable linux on. That way I could easily do a one time boot menu from my laptop to boot from the usb device. I'd like to

Re: Damn windows passwords - SOLVED

2005-01-30 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, January 31, 2005 1:29 pm, C. Falconer said: [snip] suspenders:/belt/aghs-server/1# l Love the naming convention! :^) Steve -- Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:40:37 +1300 (NZDT) Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you going to do this? I'm happy to build an install server that all can use, and bring it along. It'll be a bit of a learning process for me. I wan looking at sorting out a quad ethernet card for this

RE: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread David Hole
The Laptop is a Dell 9100 which has usb2 ports. The drive is a Lacie databank (2.5 inch drive, usb2 powered by the usp port). The dell BIOS allows selection of a onetime bootmenu when the machine goes through the POST. Basicly, by pressing F12 at that point, a boot device (including usb) can be

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
ok i know what you mean now, my IBM does the same...very handy f you push the button on time. of course the prefeerable treatment is to ditch the OS it came with It wil be an interesting project. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:16:00 -0700 David Hole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Laptop is a Dell

RE: Damn windows passwords - SOLVED

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
Yeah - its just for me to use, not for public consumption. Its four 300 (okay, 287 Gb) drives in a raid0. I also have weekly tape backups as an off-site. -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 3:49 p.m. To:

Re: linux on the desktop making inroads...

2005-01-30 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Maybe, but I'm unconvinced. There's a market for both, and open source doesn't deliver any interactive encyclopedia like the one I was referrring to. However you missed the point: Companies are starting to not only release their products for 'blows but also for Linux. The

Re: linux on the desktop making inroads...

2005-01-30 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 17:05 +1300, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Though those dictionaries are an important step they are not the first one. The first software that I installed on my computer besides that which came on the RedHat discs was propriety: a bunch of TrueType fonts :) -- Michael

Re: linux on the desktop making inroads...

2005-01-30 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I suppose most windows-users don't pay for most of the software they should pay for. Kazaa is a good example for their attitude. This is a different attitude, it's I'll take for free as much as I get. It's utterly amazing how much bugware, as in spyware, people are willing to load onto their

Re: linux on the desktop making inroads...

2005-01-30 Thread Robert Himmelmann
I think it would be best to have free versions of every program. Unfortunately that is a bit too idealistic, and so what you are saying is right: Commercial software is better than nothing. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I suppose most windows-users don't pay for most of the software they should pay

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Nick Rout wrote: Anyway, just an indication of interest is all i'm after at this stage. I might come just for watching and helping. I have always been using SuSE and so I don't have any experience with a 'real' installation. I would like to try Gentoo, but my 40Gb-laptop-hd is already filled

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:03, Nick Rout wrote: For the last couple of years a group of us have run mini-installfests for those wanting gentoo on their computer. I'd be happy to help out again. Should we be putting a lower limit on the cpu speed? If so, what? -- Sincerely etc., Christopher

Re: Gentoo installation-fest?

2005-01-30 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:11, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Anyway, just an indication of interest is all i'm after at this stage. I might come just for watching and helping. I have always been using SuSE and so I don't have any experience with a 'real' installation. I would like to

list archives

2005-01-30 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Sun 30 Jan 2005 14:19:28 NZDT +1300, Nick Rout wrote: http://gmane.org http://marc.theaimsgroup.com I don't think theaimsgroup archives this list. Or can you be more specific? Any other archives (so I can add them to http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/lists-nz.html)? Thanks, Volker --

Re: list archives

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 19:59 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Sun 30 Jan 2005 14:19:28 NZDT +1300, Nick Rout wrote: http://gmane.org http://marc.theaimsgroup.com I don't think theaimsgroup archives this list. Or can you be more specific? Any other archives (so I can add them to