DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Fisher
I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but when not connected it takes a while to get past DHCPDISCOVER How can I shorten the time it tries? -- Regards, Robert --

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Andy George
Static IP Robert Fisher wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but when not connected it takes a while to get past DHCPDISCOVER How can I shorten the time it tries?

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I disagree. This only true if you use [t]csh, and are calling it in the recommended way ( in fact, it uses source from the bash shell codebase to extract user info ). The behaviour of which even on Linux systems used to be as I described, it has always been a stand-alone binary, and the way it

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Fisher
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 9:23 pm, Andy George wrote: Static IP No - that is not the option I want. I am sure there is a way to shorten the time. There is in Gentoo. Robert Fisher wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but

Re: Update on Gentoo Mini-Installfest

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
OK we now have four definites (Ross D, Adrian M, Bruce's son, Simon K) and a maybe (Yuri deG). Attached is a largely empty pdfexport of a spreadsheet with the kind of info we need. Please let me have the missing details asap. If I don't have the details, then the likely consequence is that the

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:30:26 +1200 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 9:23 pm, Andy George wrote: Static IP No - that is not the option I want. I am sure there is a way to shorten the time. There is in Gentoo. Robert Fisher wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 27 March 2006 21:13, Robert Fisher wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but when not connected it takes a while to get past DHCPDISCOVER How can I shorten the time it tries?

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:13:53 +1200 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but when not connected it takes a while to get past DHCPDISCOVER How can I shorten the time it tries? --

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:40:25 +1200 Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:13:53 +1200 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get an address successfully but when not connected it

Re: Knoppix

2006-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 27 March 2006 17:55, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: 5.0 (english) DVD is being downloaded via bittorrent as we speak. Should be available for anyone wanting a copy tomorrow. Let me know if you want one, and I'll swap for a blank. Where can one download it? I

Re: Update on Gentoo Mini-Installfest

2006-03-27 Thread Adrian Mageanu
Hi guys, Sorry to disappoint, I just received news today from one of my clients that will make my presence impossible to this event, with all my regrets. I'll talk to you later on today at the meeting. Adrian On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 21:31 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: OK we now have four definites

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:12:16 + Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 27 March 2006 11:10 am, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:40:25 +1200 Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:13:53 +1200 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Knoppix

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Monday 27 March 2006 17:55, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: 5.0 (english) DVD is being downloaded via bittorrent as we speak. Should be available for anyone wanting a copy tomorrow. Let me know if you want one, and I'll swap for a blank.

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Roger Searle
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: NINE:~ # which gcc (nothing returned) NINE:~ # rpm -qa|grep gcc libgcc-4.0.2_20050901-3 which tells you that you don't have the compiler installed. Package gcc, in yast somewhere under devlopment, or easier, type gcc into the search field. When the

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, March 28, 2006 8:36 am, Roger Searle wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: NINE:~ # which gcc (nothing returned) NINE:~ # rpm -qa|grep gcc libgcc-4.0.2_20050901-3 which tells you that you don't have the compiler installed. Package gcc, in yast somewhere under devlopment, or easier,

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread Carl Cerecke
I'm impressed at the patience this guy displays. I'm not sure I would have been quite so polite in the face of such stupidity. Cheers, Carl. On 28/03/06, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mayor of Tuttle, OK threatens the CentOS team with the FBI... scarily not really OT.

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Andrew Errington
snip Having now had a play with ifplugd on my desktop, I am sold on it. Cannot wait to try it on the laptop, which has two network interfaces (wired and wireless). Amazing to unplug and replug the network cable on the desktop and see the interface go down and up. Its pretty well instant too.

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
I had the same thoughts on reading it this morning (from a slashdot link). All in all the centOS guy comes off best by being calm in the face of very extreme frustration. Me, I would have called the man from Tuttle a rude name after the first couple of emails, and then been too embarrassed by

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:41 +1300 Andrew Errington wrote: snip Having now had a play with ifplugd on my desktop, I am sold on it. Cannot wait to try it on the laptop, which has two network interfaces (wired and wireless). Amazing to unplug and replug the network cable on the desktop

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
A Yast search is showing absolutely no reference to gcc, as either a search for gcc, or under devel or anything else I can think of. So not on this DVD? Can it be downloaded perhaps? yast - software - software management, filter search, type gcc - I get about 20 packages related to gcc.

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
All in all the centOS guy comes off best by being calm in the face of very extreme frustration. Yes. And he should have sent the lot to the local press, afterall the public has an interest to know that they're administrated by someone who thinks that 22 year's experience in wiping the dust off

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Fisher
On Monday 27 March 2006 11:10 am, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:40:25 +1200 Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:13:53 +1200 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed Kanotix on my laptop (Debian based) At home it uses DHCP to get

Re: Update on Gentoo Mini-Installfest

2006-03-27 Thread yuri
Yuri deG Still a maybe, but will be sure by Thursday. Laptop: P4, 2Ghz, 256MB Ram, 20GB IDE HD, currently running Mandrake 10.0 Gentoo install will be a complete replacement, entire HD available. 10/100 built-in NIC and built-in sound currently recognised by Mandrake 10.0 and knoppix, so Gentoo

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Neil Stockbridge
thanks for the ifplugd tip. before, i had to manually reconfigure the laptop as i moved around. i've written up some notes that may give inspiration to people on Debian or derivatives: http://www.zen9658.zen.co.uk/sysadmin/net/index.html - neil On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 21:42 +1200,

Re: DHCPDISCOVER

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
Thanks, our wiki also accepts contributions, feel free to add the notes there: http://www.clug.org.nz On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:06:33 +1200 Neil Stockbridge wrote: thanks for the ifplugd tip. before, i had to manually reconfigure the laptop as i moved around. i've written up some notes that

Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread David Mann
This has been talked about for a while... looks like they're actually going to implement it. http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp? id=14776cid=3cname=Technology - Dave

RE: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Craig FALCONER
Both good and bad Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to run a mail swerver. -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:56 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Xtra to

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Andrew Errington
I heard it described as like cough mixture for lung cancer. A On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:05, you wrote: Both good and bad Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to run a mail swerver. -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Roger Searle
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, March 28, 2006 8:36 am, Roger Searle wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: NINE:~ # which gcc (nothing returned) NINE:~ # rpm -qa|grep gcc libgcc-4.0.2_20050901-3 which tells you that you don't have the compiler installed. Package gcc, in yast

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread John Carter
That was not light relief. That was abjectly depressing. Perhaps humanity really does deserve Microsoft. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, March 28, 2006 2:34 pm, John Carter wrote: That was not light relief. That was abjectly depressing. Perhaps humanity really does deserve Microsoft. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO

Re: Update on Gentoo Mini-Installfest

2006-03-27 Thread bruce
sorry bout this,but my son cant get there on saturday:(( thx anyway bruce

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 13:05, Craig FALCONER wrote: Both good and bad  Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to run a mail swerver. Not really, I expect the deal will be a monthly fee to open port 25 for you. -- CS

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 13:05, Craig FALCONER wrote: Both good and bad  Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to run a mail swerver. -- CS

Free to give away

2006-03-27 Thread Craig FALCONER
PII 450 CPU ATX Motherboard 96 Mb ram in 3x32 Mb ISA sound card Crap ATX case with no PSU. First in gets it.

Re: A little light relief!

2006-03-27 Thread John Mallett
Could be good media coverage for linux On Tuesday 28 March 2006 14:39, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, March 28, 2006 2:34 pm, John Carter wrote: That was not light relief. That was abjectly depressing. Perhaps humanity really does deserve Microsoft. John Carter

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread David Mann
On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tuesday 28 March 2006 13:05, Craig FALCONER wrote: Both good and bad Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to run a mail swerver. Not really, I expect the deal will be a monthly fee to

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
informs me of the requirement for binutils and glibc-devel - the first is OK, the second is also not available in yast! Every SUSE release I've seen includes these packages. Your media must be cr*p. on the internet. YAY!!! Today it won't run ) - : The configuration wants gcc to build

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I have email accounts hosted on external domains and I will not be impressed if I were no longer able to access them! I suspect there will be lots of others in this situation and hope that Telecom doesn't make it too difficult for us to opt out. Why don't you just get a better ISP?

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:01:26 +1200 David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tuesday 28 March 2006 13:05, Craig FALCONER wrote: Both good and bad Helps to contain infected machines, but makes life harder for the geeks who want to

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:05:32 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a good example of why I suggest to get a distro complete on a DVD (or CD for those who like to juggle), because then it's plug'n'go. Yes, either that or a minimal net install at the other extreme. This seems

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Could this be the problem: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Readers/Forum/0531?expand_all=1 Someone's being sorry that the DVD distributed with LinuxMagazine was missing and pile of packages and shouldn't have been called full. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the

Re: location of gcc binary

2006-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:05:32 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: on the internet. YAY!!! Today it won't run ) - : The configuration wants gcc to build the vmmon module, and no isn't an acceptable answer! Yes we all know that the vmware modules need to be compiled for your running kernel,

Re: Free to give away

2006-03-27 Thread Edwin F
Hi, Just wondering if you've still got this. I managed to completely stuff over the BIOS on my fileserver-to-be... =\ Cheers, Edwin. On 3/28/06, Craig FALCONER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PII 450 CPU ATX Motherboard 96 Mb ram in 3x32 Mb ISA sound card Crap ATX case with no PSU. First in

RE: Free to give away

2006-03-27 Thread Craig FALCONER
No sorry - Roger was first in. -Original Message- From: Edwin F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 4:45 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Free to give away Hi, Just wondering if you've still got this. I managed to completely stuff over the BIOS

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread yuri
On 28/03/06, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I have email accounts hosted on external domains and I will not be impressed if I were no longer able to access them! I suspect there will be lots of others in this situation and hope that Telecom doesn't make it too difficult for us to opt out. Why

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread David Mann
On Mar 28, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote: You normally access those accounts via pop, imap or a dedicated web interface ( secure or clear ). None of these use port 25. I do like to be able to send mail too :) I'll have to check to see what my host supports... - Dave

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 17:44, yuri wrote: On 28/03/06, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I have email accounts hosted on external domains and I will not be impressed if I were no longer able to access them! I suspect there will be lots of others in this situation and hope that Telecom doesn't

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
They are on the site now as I type. Do you mean http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/products-res/internet/highspeed/ ? They've been there for some time, since before last time I posted some internet prices. The pricing says 3 Nov 05, about 4 months ago. Am I looking in the wrong place? Volker --

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:46:39 +1200 David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote: You normally access those accounts via pop, imap or a dedicated web interface ( secure or clear ). None of these use port 25. I do like to be able to send mail too

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread yuri
On 28/03/06, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: They are on the site now as I type. Do you mean http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/products-res/internet/highspeed/ ? They've been there for some time, since before last time I posted some internet prices. The pricing says 3 Nov 05, about 4 months ago. Am I

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:32:33 +1200 yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait until it's updated to say valid from 29 Mar 06. Each plan will have a bit more base traffic, with the price of additional blocks going down a wee bit and the sizes of additional blocks going up a wee bit. Can't give

Re: Xtra to filter port 25

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 6:45 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Do you know if we have to apply to get the new plan, or is it an automatic upgrade? I would love that option with my new Orcon plan. I was one of the lucky ones who got unlimited traffic in the two week window when UBS was first