Re: More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:31:13 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:21:21 +1200 > Steve Holdoway wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:16:31 +1200 > > Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that

Re: More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:16:31 +1200 Andrew Errington wrote: > Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that needs > feeding... > > http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-windows-compared-facts.html > > It's a fair summary of the shocking state of Linux development.

Re: More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:21:21 +1200 Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:16:31 +1200 > Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that needs > > feeding... > > > > http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-wind

Re: More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:21, you wrote: > On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:16:31 +1200 > > Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that needs > > feeding... > > > > http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-windows-compared- > >facts.h

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Not sure if I can make it at this time I have to be at work the next morning @ 3.45 AM. So unless I can get the day off I do not think my energy levels will take it.. > Are you still taking the computer to Rik's meeting on > thursday night at Sydenham? > > And can we have a monitor for it? I d

Re: More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:16:31 +1200 Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that needs > feeding... > > http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-windows-compared-facts.html > > It's a fair summary of the shocking state of

Re: Reply addresses

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:46:02 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is that set up right? > Yes. > > Do take care that it is set up for your list postings only, otherwise your > other correspondents will be posting to

More blasphemy...

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
Following on from last week's hungry troll is a new one that needs feeding... http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-windows-compared-facts.html It's a fair summary of the shocking state of Linux development. I strongly believe that Microsoft could use some of the material in th

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
Are you still taking the computer to Rik's meeting on thursday night at Sydenham? And can we have a monitor for it? I don't fancy waiting around until Rik is finished with the projector Cheers, Nick On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:06:18 +1200 bernard wrote: > Have to get off computer or this will end

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Have to get off computer or this will end in divorce!!will catch up later and see if I can get things going. ta for the help. B

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Ok i have now managed to pick the camera up as a USB ptp class camera, but get failed to connect message on it... Output from terminla looks like this ERROR: Bad option "--autodetect": ERROR: unknown option gphoto2 2.1.6 Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Lutz Mueller and others gphoto2 comes

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:49:44 +1200 bernard wrote: > Nick I used Konsole terminla programme is that ok do you > want me to mail the results? > > I think i should have used another programme to run the > commands in? it is fine and yes post the results to the list. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Nick I used Konsole terminla programme is that ok do you want me to mail the results? I think i should have used another programme to run the commands in?

Re: Reply addresses

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is that set up right? Yes. Do take care that it is set up for your list postings only, otherwise your other correspondents will be posting to the list. That's probably not what either you or they intend. -- CS

Re: Reply addresses

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
yes On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:40:59 +1200 bernard wrote: > Is that set up right? > > Bernard -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Reply addresses

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Is that set up right? Bernard

Reply addresses

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
Bernard, When you use Outlook to mail to the list then your reply-to header is set correctly, and all replies will go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] however, you are also using a WebMail client at times, and it seems to overwrite reply-to with [EMAIL PROTECTED] What this means is that unless people are

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
> Dont you think this has gone far enough now. > Time to throw the issue out of the window and behave > appropiately (sorry cant spell) Isn't it time to throw the Windows out of the... oh, never mind. =;^) A

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:30:43 +1200 bernard wrote: > Camera is a canon a610 and I am using digikam which does not > pick up my camera? please go back to the good old command line and type: gphoto2 --autodetect (with the camera plugged in that is!) Also try this: unplug the camera and plug it b

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
> I think a few of us have been a little frustrated at > > helping Bernard, but remember he is a newbie, and we > > have encouraged him to make a start and have a go. I > > think telling him after a week or two that "this OS is > not for you, piss off to MacLand" is a bit off. As Bernard > > has

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 13:33, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 03 May 2006 12:42:51 +1200 > > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:15, Nick Rout wrote: > > > The last message you posted revealed that you hadn't followed the > > > advice you had been given, which is probably the mo

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
Yes i am using a daul boot system with windows, I have just removed the no auto bit of the line and will re-boot to see if it works. Camera is a canon a610 and I am using digikam which does not pick up my camera?

Mepis booklet (for Bernard and others)

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
There is a great pdf booklet on mepis here: http://www.mepis.org/files/MEPIS%20User%20Guide.pdf If I were a newbie, I'd print this out, it looks bloody good. It should sort Bernard's camera (I remember now it uses gphoto). In short Bernard, plug it in and start Digikam from your menu system (ju

Re: mounting HDA1 at start up

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:20:24 +1200 bernard wrote: > My hda1 line looks like this > > /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=0222 0 0 > > Would I be right in saying that removing the noauto bit > shoulod do the trick? > > Bernard should do, i thought i just posted that, but my ema

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 13:54:40 +1200 Bernard wrote: > > > Ok It is working, it mounts on boot up. excellent, your first piece of linux administrator hacking. You'll be running the internet this time next year :-) > > Now how do I get my main C: drive to also show and mount at start up. Is tha

mounting HDA1 at start up

2006-05-02 Thread bernard
My hda1 line looks like this /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=0222 0 0 Would I be right in saying that removing the noauto bit shoulod do the trick? Bernard

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 03 May 2006 13:54, you wrote: > Ok It is working, it mounts on boot up. > > Now how do I get my main C: drive to also show and mount at start up. Err... are you dual-booting this machine? i.e. are you running Linux *and* Windows on the same machine, but choosing which one to run every ti

RE: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Bernard
Ok It is working, it mounts on boot up. Now how do I get my main C: drive to also show and mount at start up. Also want Linux to see my camera but lets get one thing at a time !!! Bernard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Vir

RE: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Bernard
Ok thanks for the nice words lets end it here please. Thanks again for the words of encouragement and the apology. Much appreciated. Bernard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006

Re: Ubuntu sound problems

2006-05-02 Thread Don Gould
Stephen Irons wrote: Stephen [1] Apple products are reputed to "Just Work". My experience with (Ubuntu) Linux is that things "Just Start Working" after I have posted a cry for help on a list, or invoked the aid of our resident guru. This has happened three or four times now. sgi It's the ba

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 May 2006 12:42:51 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:15, Nick Rout wrote: > > The last message you posted revealed that you hadn't followed the advice > > you had been given, which is probably the most frustrating part. > > > > On Wed, 03 May 2006 02:57:45 +

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
better to do it from linux. windows editors tend to make a mess. at the command line type: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bernard this backs up in case of a f. up sudo kate /etc/fstab should give you a nice editor to make your changes in and then save them, its very windows like, cut & paste e

RE: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Bernard
Can I get in to the file from windows and then boot in to Linux or is that not wise? -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:15 PM To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Linux help OK as has been said you need to : 1. move

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
OK as has been said you need to : 1. move the hda2 line ABOVE the line that says # Dynamic Entries below here... and 2. delete the "noauto" option. The file will then look like this: # Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults,noatime 1 1 /dev/hdb

RE: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Bernard
Here is the file copied direct from Linux and sent in windows, hope this is not going to be an issue. Bernard -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:29 AM To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Linux help On Wednesday

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:15, Nick Rout wrote: > The last message you posted revealed that you hadn't followed the advice > you had been given, which is probably the most frustrating part. > > On Wed, 03 May 2006 02:57:45 +1200 Bernard wrote: > > Sorry no feedback given because it is not working,

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
The last message you posted revealed that you hadn't followed the advice you had been given, which is probably the most frustrating part. On Wed, 03 May 2006 02:57:45 +1200 Bernard wrote: > Sorry no feedback given because it is not working, will try later, finding > it quite hard work. > Help

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 03 May 2006 02:57, you wrote: > Sorry no feedback given because it is not working, will try later, > finding it quite hard work. > Help appreciated. Actually, "it's not working" is good feedback for us, especially if accompanied by a description of what is not working and the symptoms, t

Re: camera download problem

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, May 2, 2006 11:10 pm, Barry wrote: > > > Barry wrote: > >>> >>> >>> what is the failure message? ie when you run >>> gphoto2 -p bigfilename >> >> I queried the camera filelist 1st--- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] store]$ gphoto2 --list-files >> There are no files in folder '/'. >> There are no file

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Fisher
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 2:57 am, Bernard wrote: > Sorry no feedback given because it is not working, will try later, finding > it quite hard work. > Help appreciated. Post your fstab file for us to look at.

RE: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Bernard
Sorry no feedback given because it is not working, will try later, finding it quite hard work. Help appreciated. Bernard -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:52 PM To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Linux help On Tue,

RE: Ubuntu on a domain

2006-05-02 Thread Nate Walker
Would this include being able to get the username/password from active directory? Nate -Original Message- From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:40 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Ubuntu on a domain On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:26, N

Re: camera download problem

2006-05-02 Thread Barry
Barry wrote: what is the failure message? ie when you run gphoto2 -p bigfilename I queried the camera filelist 1st--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] store]$ gphoto2 --list-files There are no files in folder '/'. There are no files in folder '/store_00010001'. There are no files in folder '/store_00010

Re: camera download problem

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:07:23 +1200 Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Over 163000kb of swap was used during the transfer attempt. > It appears that the whole file is held in memory until reading finishes, > then it is written to disk. > What's the spec of the machine?? I never use less thn 2G

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 02 May 2006 20:23:17 +1200 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 8:01 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > > > >> Doesn anyone have installation media that has a 2.2.x kernel that I can > > >> borrow/copy? > > Please excuse my ignorance, but why would you want to go that fa

Re: Ubuntu on a domain

2006-05-02 Thread Ross Drummond
On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:26, Nate Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Is anybody able to tell a *nix n00b how to join ubuntu to a Win2k3 > domain please? > > Cheers > > Nate smbclient perhaps. Read the smbclient man page for more information. Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread dave
i've got MD7.2 complete Boxed version if it helps you. call me tomorrow at work 3482506 dave. On Tuesday 02 May 2006 19:42, Barry wrote: > I have caldera 2.2 & 2.3, also Mandrake 7.2 -> if that will help. > > Caldera 2.2 has linux-2.2.5-1.src.rpm. > > Barry > > Steve Holdoway wrote: > > Hey folk

Ubuntu on a domain

2006-05-02 Thread Nate Walker
Hi, Is anybody able to tell a *nix n00b how to join ubuntu to a Win2k3 domain please? Cheers Nate

Re: camera download problem

2006-05-02 Thread Barry
Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 02 May 2006 11:04:32 +1200 Barry wrote: Some cameras are usb mass storage, some are not. If the camera works with gphoto2 then its likely not to also do USB mass storage. This camera is PTP, no mass storage. What is the maximum size Barry? I have transferred

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, 02 May 2006 17:54, you wrote: > Hey folks, I thought I had a copy of RH 5.2, but I haven't. I can go back > to RH8, but even that's got a 2.4.18 kernel. > > Doesn anyone have installation media that has a 2.2.x kernel that I can > borrow/copy? I have RedHat 6.2 on CD, but I don't know what

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Andy Leach
Wesley Parish wrote: And if you can't find it, I can't, sorry Steve - I must've been gripped by sanity for a moment and got rid of them somewhere, along with all my old cover disks. Looks like you'll be spoilt for choice from others though :) Quite why I've kept installation guides for RH5.

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
Right the gloves are off (and I expect to be bettered, we are OT poor old Steve's request though) "Linux Developers Resource" 6-CD Set courtesy InfoMagic: "This 6 CD Set includes the "Quickstart" Install Guide and the following distributions of Linux - Red Hat 5.2 for Intel (installs kernel 2.0.

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
No thanks to $SUBJECT ;) If there's still need, I've got copies of RH 4.2 to 6.1, a la CheapBytes. No problem making copies. If you're just after the kernel, even easier - my pile of old SUSE media have that somewhere. Yep, much too simple to find: > grep -i ^k_ SuSE-*/Packages SuSE-7.0/Packages:

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 8:01 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > >> Doesn anyone have installation media that has a 2.2.x kernel that I can > >> borrow/copy? Please excuse my ignorance, but why would you want to go that far back?

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Wesley Parish
Nostalgia City! I've got some Slackware, Red Hat and Debian from 1995 - Linux 1.2.x, if I remember correctly. Someone some time back - 2003, IIRC - someone was talking about putting isos of back issues of distros onto a web server somewhere for historical purposes. Perhaps this is something

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, May 2, 2006 8:01 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > On Tue, May 2, 2006 7:47 pm, Nick Rout wrote: >> On Tue, May 2, 2006 5:54 pm, Steve Holdoway wrote: >>> Hey folks, I thought I had a copy of RH 5.2, but I haven't. I can go >>> back >>> to RH8, but even that's got a 2.4.18 kernel. >>> >>> Doesn anyone

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, May 2, 2006 7:47 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > On Tue, May 2, 2006 5:54 pm, Steve Holdoway wrote: >> Hey folks, I thought I had a copy of RH 5.2, but I haven't. I can go >> back >> to RH8, but even that's got a 2.4.18 kernel. >> >> Doesn anyone have installation media that has a 2.2.x kernel that

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, May 2, 2006 7:43 pm, Robert Fisher wrote: > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 12:14 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > >> Robert has already confirmed that putting the entry above the "# >> Dynamic" stops mepis from fiddling with it. >> >> Also removing "noauto" will ensure that it is mounted at boot. >> >> End o

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, May 2, 2006 5:54 pm, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Hey folks, I thought I had a copy of RH 5.2, but I haven't. I can go back > to RH8, but even that's got a 2.4.18 kernel. > > Doesn anyone have installation media that has a 2.2.x kernel that I can > borrow/copy? > > Cheers, > > Steve > lemme see

Re: installing programmes from download manager

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 5:40 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 17:25, Bernard wrote: > > How do I install software after downloading it through the download > > manager. Bernard, Remember that I told you yesterday that installing from downloads (if the normal package manager

Re: Linux help

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 12:14 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > Robert has already confirmed that putting the entry above the "# > Dynamic" stops mepis from fiddling with it. > > Also removing "noauto" will ensure that it is mounted at boot. > > End of story. No - the end of the story should be Bernard's con

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Wesley Parish
And if you can't find it, I've got a copy of "Red Hat Linux Network Management Tools", which has a cut-down version of Red Hat 5.2 you're welcome to borrow. I've also got a couple of discs of Red Hat 6.x - 2001 vintage - somewhere, which might still be usable, if you'd rather use that. Wesle

Re: 2.2 kernel anyone???

2006-05-02 Thread Barry
I have caldera 2.2 & 2.3, also Mandrake 7.2 -> if that will help. Caldera 2.2 has linux-2.2.5-1.src.rpm. Barry Steve Holdoway wrote: Hey folks, I thought I had a copy of RH 5.2, but I haven't. I can go back to RH8, but even that's got a 2.4.18 kernel. Doesn anyone have installation media tha