Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-21 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> You can buy SATA to PATA connectors to go on the back on PATA disk and cdrom > drives to connect them to SATA. I have one but don't use it, too far from > disk to motherboard for the short SATA cables I got. DSE has them. Two issues with that: 1) That increases the price. Remember, SATA was

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-21 Thread Lee Begg
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 23:07, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Value the 2 PATA connectors on your mobo, because there are not yet any > optical SATA drives [1]. You can buy SATA to PATA connectors to go on the back on PATA disk and cdrom drives to connect them to SATA. I have one but don't use it,

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-21 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> PATA (IDE) is very definately legacy kit now. I'd have to disagree for now. Legacy is when it's starting to become difficult to buy, and when it's noticably more expensive than the better-performing alternatives. In this case, I can't even say SATA performs better than PATA, and the other condit

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-21 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:52:37PM +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:15:25 + > Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP is the 2-port SATA model. I don't think they do > > PATA any more. > Didn't I just read somewhere that the ICH8 chipset from

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:15:25 + Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP is the 2-port SATA model. I don't think they do > PATA any more. Didn't I just read somewhere that the ICH8 chipset from Intel will also drop PATA?? Steve

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:20:51PM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > However, a decent (real) hardware RAID controller, like a 3Ware or Intel > > (that have decent Linux agents and configuration interfaces) are ~$300 - > > Last time I looked a long while back, a 3-channel (i.e. 3 cables) 3ware > w

RE: FW: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
400ish k/sec it was doing. finish=379.4min speed=12862K/sec Should be done by morning :) -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 12:01 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: FW: DMA strangeness On

RE: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 4:56 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: DMA strangeness On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:20:51 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, a decent (real) hardware RAID controller, like a 3Ware or > > Intel (that

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:20:51 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, a decent (real) hardware RAID controller, like a 3Ware or Intel > > (that have decent Linux agents and configuration interfaces) are ~$300 - > > Last time I looked a long while back, a 3-channel (i.e. 3 cab

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> However, a decent (real) hardware RAID controller, like a 3Ware or Intel > (that have decent Linux agents and configuration interfaces) are ~$300 - Last time I looked a long while back, a 3-channel (i.e. 3 cables) 3ware was $1200. Where should I be looking to see the $300? Thanks, Volker --

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Jim Cheetham
You have software RAID, and terrible performance :-) That's a feature, isn't it? > > The hardware is a dual PII 400 with two promise PCI IDE controllers. > Ouch, stay clear of that Promise cr*p. AFAIAA, Promise does not have a > single product worth using. Use non-raid PCI IDE cards instead, or

Re: FW: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 10:41, Craig FALCONER wrote: > I also get this in dmesg: > > Losing too many ticks! > TSC cannot be used as a timesource.   > Possible reasons for this are: >   You're running with Speedstep, >   You don't have DMA enabled for your hard disk (see hdparm), >   Incorrect T

Re: FW: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> ACPI is the strongest probable cause at the moemtn Yes. > They're cheap $75 non-raid cards, but have worked perfectly in another > machine. Good, in principle Linux shouldn't have a problem with their IDE chip then. > I also get this in dmesg: > > Losing too many ticks! > TSC cannot be used

FW: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
uary 2006 10:35 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: DMA strangeness Possibilities I can see: Buggy kernel and/or buggy chipset with insufficient kernel workaround. This is the IDE part of the mobo chipsets, and all IDE cards. Disks interfering with each other if you have mor

RE: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
y, 21 February 2006 10:35 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: DMA strangeness > The performance is terrible. But when I enable DMA on the drives with > hdparm -d1 /dev/hd[e-l] > About 10 seconds later I get kernel messages like > hde: lost interrupt > And t

Re: DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> The performance is terrible. But when I enable DMA on the drives with > hdparm -d1 /dev/hd[e-l] > About 10 seconds later I get kernel messages like > hde: lost interrupt > And the only way to clear this is reboot. Possibilities I can see: Buggy kernel and/or buggy chipset with ins

DMA strangeness

2006-02-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
I've got a linux box here doing software raid-5 over 8 drives. The performance is terrible. But when I enable DMA on the drives with hdparm -d1 /dev/hd[e-l] About 10 seconds later I get kernel messages like hde: lost interrupt And the only way to clear this is reboot. The hardwa