Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) Philip Charles wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > > > And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of > > confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a duty > > having knowledge of the confidential natu

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Yes, for example if I (as a lawyer) accidentally send a message to you > instead of my client (maybe he has a similar name), and I make it clear > that it is in fact confidential, or if the nature of the communication is > obviously confidential, then yes you would have a duty not to splash > i

RE: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread C. Falconer
: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Email ettiquette rant On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) Philip Charles wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > > > And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of > > confidentiality depend on

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread yuri
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:39:29 +1300 (NZDT), Philip Charles wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > > > And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of > > confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a duty > > having knowledge of the confidential natur

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Roy Britten
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:31:33AM +1300, Nick Rout wrote: > The trouble is the proliferation of such disclaimers & declarations > into situations where they are clearly inappropriate tends to devalue > them to the point of worthlessness. Personally I prefer http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/05/18

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of > confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a duty > having knowledge of the confidential nature of the information. Can such a notice impose a duty of confidentiality o

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Nick Rout
And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a duty having knowledge of the confidential nature of the information. The trouble is the proliferation of such disclaimers & declarations into situations where they a

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Douglas Royds
I took some flak when the "disclaimer" was first applied. We haven't discussed the philosophy or legal standing of such disclaimers beyond Chris's little, um, enthuse last week. Robert Himmelmann wrote: This must have been before I came here. Where about in the archives can I find this conversa

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread Robert Himmelmann
This must have been before I came here. Where about in the archives can I find this conversation? I heartily agree. But we've covered this before, ad nauseum. Thanks for the painful reminder. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Use free software only. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.h

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-16 Thread Lindsay
I was recently informed privately, that I was to put my replies at the bottom. On another list I am on, with 36,000+ members, the new comments are to go at the top, as suggested by Derek in this Post. Linz On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 10:33 +1300, Derek Smithies wrote: > Hi, > There are, I am told, two

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:13, Douglas Royds wrote: > > Anybody who sends secret stuff > > by clear text email is a total idiot, > > and should be sacked pronto. Now you know!! > > = > > I heartily agree. But we've covered this before, ad nauseum. Thanks for the > painful reminder. Jus

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Jim Cheetham
Now that a fair few of you have stuck your necks out, I thought I'd share my thoughts again :-) Top-posting. I like it - but I also try to signal the end of my message by signing off before the quoted section begins. Handy when the thread is new or active, where people have probably just read t

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Douglas Royds
First of all, congratulations are due to Jim on a most excellent list-bomb. You go, boy! Steve Holdoway wrote: On Wed, February 16, 2005 10:33 am, Derek Smithies said: There are, I am told, two basic styles of replying to an email a)delete none/some/most of the email being replied to, and inte

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Douglas Royds
Christopher Sawtell wrote: And the other email sin imho is putting lines and lines of arse covering bumph down here. It's totally irrelevent when posting to a public mail list community, and I suspect legally unenforceable. Anybody who sends secret stuff by clear text email is a to

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
[Intentionally top posting and leaving this post in its entirity as the OP has completely disagreed with himself and shown how a well answered email should, IMHO, be structured] Nuff said? Foot meet shotgun? Steve On Wed, February 16, 2005 11:54 am, Derek Smithies said: > Hi, > >> > My colleag

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, > > My colleagues tell me that a style is the one preferred by many internet > > users. > > What does that tell you? Several possible things a)That a view is held by "most" people does not make it correct. b)Many internet users may/may not take the time to ensure their thoughts id

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Vik Olliver
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 10:49 +1300, Jason Greenwood wrote: > BTW - I personally HATE bottom posting... =) So do I. :) [FX: Wt! Wt! Irony Alert!!] Vik ;v) -- Vik Olliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Olliver Family

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48, Steve Holdoway wrote: > This is a joke, right? I fear not. What really gets _my_ goat is posters hijacking the threads! Butting into other peoples conversations might be considered acceptable behaviour in some societies, but it is not for me! -- Christopher Sawtell. =

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, February 16, 2005 10:33 am, Derek Smithies said: > Hi, > There are, I am told, two basic styles of replying to an email > > a)delete none/some/most of the email being replied to, > and intersperse comments at (seemingly) random positions in the > result. > > b)delete none/some/m

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Jason Greenwood
BTW - I personally HATE bottom posting... =)

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> b is (my view) definately superior to a). When viewing the resultant email, > noone has to scroll down, hunting for reply comments. Wow, now everyone has to scroll down, hunting for the bit which was replied to. > All reply comments are clearly visible. Yeah, just impossible to find within

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, There are, I am told, two basic styles of replying to an email a)delete none/some/most of the email being replied to, and intersperse comments at (seemingly) random positions in the result. b)delete none/some/most (usually none) of the email being replied to, and place all repl

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread nordkyn
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:25:04 +1300 Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:17, you wrote: > > I need to have a small rant this morning ... please bear with me. > > > > Some of you, notably those who have been (presumably) using email for > > many many years, are NOT QU

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Can't any of you use the delete key? Please please please edit out the Couldn't agree more!!! And the worst offenders are those Oldies who really should know better... One day I'll get round to writing this procmail recipe which will post a how-to-quote reminder in response to any post with a

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Jim Cheetham
Andrew Errington wrote: Me too! Yeah, just like that :-) I need another coffee ...

Re: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:17, you wrote: > I need to have a small rant this morning ... please bear with me. > > Some of you, notably those who have been (presumably) using email for > many many years, are NOT QUOTING properly. > > I've just seen a bottom-post with *34 lines* of the previous > convers

Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-15 Thread Jim Cheetham
I need to have a small rant this morning ... please bear with me. Some of you, notably those who have been (presumably) using email for many many years, are NOT QUOTING properly. I've just seen a bottom-post with *34 lines* of the previous conversation, including many blank lines, folowed by a r