RE: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-08 Thread Craig Falconer
-Original Message- From: Patrick Dunford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 8:53 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken. > Commercial cables are available from 0.5 m, however in this length it is > unlikely to be used excep

Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Patrick Dunford
Mike Beattie wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:56:46AM +1300, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: In the last house we built I had 23 rj45 outlets with patches to 14 of them (6 phones and 8 computers) Imagine the fun when making up the short patch leads for the patch panel. I imagine folks ar

Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Mike Beattie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:57:06PM +1300, Craig Falconer wrote: > That's an end-to-end measurement probably... You're not supposed to have a > NIC closer than X mm to the switch/hub, regardless of whether its one length > of cable, or a flylead, in-wall cable and a patch cable. Yes, end-to-end bet

RE: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Craig Falconer
From: Mike Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >I imagine folks are aware that CAT5 has a minimum length requirement for 100Base-X stuff? >should be around 2.5M from memory.. >There is a *VERY* high likelyhood that I'm wrong, so correct me if so. That's an end-to-end measurement probably... You'

Re: [nzlug] Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Mike Beattie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:16:15AM +1300, Yuri de Groot wrote: > * Misjudged the colour-coding (no, I'm not colourblind) > I looked at a plug on a premade cable and saw: > White, Orange, White, Blue, White, Green, White, Brown > and assumed: > Wh/Or, Orange, Wh/Bl, Blue, Wh/Gr, Green, Wh/Br

Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Mike Beattie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:56:46AM +1300, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: > In the last house we built I had 23 rj45 outlets with patches to 14 of them > (6 phones and 8 computers) > > Imagine the fun when making up the short patch leads for the patch panel. I imagine folks are aware that CAT5 h

RE: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 11:30 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken. I had to crimp each end twice (with corresponding doubling of rj45 costs) last time I did it!

Re: Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Nick Rout
I had to crimp each end twice (with corresponding doubling of rj45 costs) last time I did it! theres an option you can pass to ping to make it beep each time a packet is received, very handy while you are wiggling wires round the back of the computer! beep beep beep silence.conclusion, this

Fixed: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-07 Thread Yuri de Groot
All fixed. Sitting at the kitchen table with lappie plugged into the wall socket as I type this. Turns out my crimping skills were substandard. I made the following mistakes: * Unravelled too much twist. * Misjudged the colour-coding (no, I'm not colourblind) I looked at a plug on a premade c

RE: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread David Taylor
Is the cable in the wall running parallel to power, this would be very bad. Power and Ethernet do not mix, and the wires should cross at 90 degrees when they do meet. Ciao, Dave

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Yuri de Groot
> >What else can anyone think of. > > Hmmm... You've got an RJ45 on plug crimped on one end and > a wall plate socket on the other? Yes > What kind of cable did you use, solid or stranded? How do I find out? > Patch and fly leads are normally made of stranded cable. > Cat5 for permanant wi

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Yuri de Groot
> First check that you have link lights on all ports of your > switch. Since you have the server and the client > separately plugged into the switch you should only be > using straight-through cables. The only pins you need to > be worried about is 1, 2, 3 and 6. As long as they are > right t

Re: [nzlug] Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Wayne Rooney
>I am using DSE's RJ45 plugs on fixed CAT5e wiring quite happily and >without packet loss (100M though, don't have any giga cards). Are you >sure mismatching the crimp type would make it so bad as to be unusable? I've have enough of them fail on first test that I don't bother trying the flexible c

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> They have different RJ45 crimp connectors. The ends of the metallic > contacts that bite into the strands of the cable when you crimp it are > different - this on-line shop shows the differences > http://www.homestead.co.uk/amp45.htm. Dick Smiths only sell the connectors > for stranded cable.

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Patrick Dunford
Wayne Rooney wrote: Patch and fly leads are normally made of stranded cable. Cat5 for permanant wiring (the stuff in the 300 metre boxes) is solid cable. They have different RJ45 crimp connectors. The ends of the metallic contacts that bite into the strands of the cable when you crimp it are dif

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Nick Rout
actually i think this is a better site than the one i just posted... http://www.swhowto.com/CAT5_Ch1.htm On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:23, Nick Rout wrote: > http://www.d3data.net/Help/HowTo_WireCAT5.htm > > the answer to yuri's question about how much to unravel is 1/2". > > On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:59,

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Nick Rout
http://www.d3data.net/Help/HowTo_WireCAT5.htm the answer to yuri's question about how much to unravel is 1/2". On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:59, Wayne Rooney wrote: > >I got my crimping tool, rj45 crimp plugs and a flush box at DSE. > >I put the flush box at one end of the cable and an rj45 plug at th

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Wayne Rooney
>I got my crimping tool, rj45 crimp plugs and a flush box at DSE. >I put the flush box at one end of the cable and an rj45 plug at the other end. >So why does it not work? >What else can anyone think of. Hmmm... You've got an RJ45 on plug crimped on one end and a wall plate socket on the other

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:25:47 +1300, you wrote: >I got my crimping tool, rj45 crimp plugs and a flush box at DSE. >I put the flush box at one end of the cable and an rj45 plug at the other end. > >Tested with LAN cable tester (also DSE) and every pin is connected in the >right order. > >Plug the r

RE: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread David Taylor
-Original Message- From: Yuri de Groot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 12:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network (physical layer) broken. I got my crimping tool, rj45 crimp plugs and a flush box at DSE. I put the flush box at one end of the

Re: Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Michael
Hi Yuri, First check that you have link lights on all ports of your switch. Since you have the server and the client separately plugged into the switch you should only be using straight-through cables. The only pins you need to be worried about is 1, 2, 3 and 6. As long as they are right the

Network (physical layer) broken.

2004-03-05 Thread Yuri de Groot
I got my crimping tool, rj45 crimp plugs and a flush box at DSE. I put the flush box at one end of the cable and an rj45 plug at the other end. Tested with LAN cable tester (also DSE) and every pin is connected in the right order. Plug the rj45 plug end of the cable into the switch and plug the