Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-20 Thread Kerry Mayes
That would be excellent - ke...@mayes.co.nz Thanks! 2009/5/20 S C O : > If you are interested, I can PDF those details and send them to you. > > Vick.

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-20 Thread S C O
Hi, I am not sure if this will help you. At work I just found few drawings, showing details of how to arrange services into a trench (power, water, data). One of the details is showing a high-power cable near to some water pipe. The distance is not less then 500mm. If I remember well, each pow

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-18 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> You could leave a draw wire in your conduit (use big radius curves in > the conduit) to replace the the cat 5 etc. with fibre at a later date. You can yank hard on some copper, but if you snap the fibre, you'll have dead signal... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-18 Thread Dave
I agree with Yuri, fibre optic cable will cure any issues with noise. It may be worth getting a price. You could leave a draw wire in your conduit (use big radius curves in the conduit) to replace the the cat 5 etc. with fibre at a later date. Dave On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 18:55 +1200, yuri wrote

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread yuri
Kerry Mayes scribbled: > I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), water and data > (phone & network).  I have (with significant help) dug the trench to > the shed and will be organising the connections in the next few weeks. > > However, if I run the network cables next to the power c

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> technical details, but I was at a place once where there was a leaking >> electric fence and for some reason made the showers taps electrocute you. I >> really don't like the idea of th

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Kerry Mayes
I previously asked the sparky to change the house pump to a different phase to the house itself - I expected it to help with the power fluctuations caused by the pump motor starting up. However, it had no discernible effect. 2009/5/18 Volker Kuhlmann : > As an aside, it's also possible to connect

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Phill Coxon
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 22:45 +1200, Kerry Mayes wrote: > I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), water and data > (phone & network). I have (with significant help) dug the trench to > the shed and will be organising the connections in the next few weeks. > > However, if I run the ne

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Craig Falconer
Steve Holdoway wrote, On 18/05/09 14:06: Don't forget the all-important piece of red plastic warning tape... I remember finding one of those over 3 metres from where the cable really ran. Turns out frost can make buried stuff move around in the soil. -- Craig Falconer

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > technical details, but I was at a place once where there was a leaking > electric fence and for some reason made the showers taps electrocute you. I > really don't like the idea of that messing with computers. > > Somebody else will hopefully

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:45:48 +1200 Robert Fisher wrote: > -Original Message- > From: "Volker Kuhlmann" > > Yes. For starters, the power cables are legally required to be in > conduit of their own, and with good reason. > > Not quite correct. > Separation is mandatory and protection is

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 18 May 2009 10:55:40 NZST +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: >> Which reminds me, make sure your house and shed have their earths >> solidly connected! > > Is it worth running an earth wire in the trench ? Or is that going to be > bad later? I don't see any disadvantage. The house will have i

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> When I 'undergrounded' my street feed I was advised to bury the cable > directly in the ground for the cooling effect of the earth. If I had used a > conduit then I would have had to use the next larger wire size. The price > difference was significant to me at least. I imagine for 3-phase the

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread chris bayley
Robert Fisher wrote: -Original Message- From: "Volker Kuhlmann" Yes. For starters, the power cables are legally required to be in conduit of their own, and with good reason. Not quite correct. Separation is mandatory and protection is recommended. "Protection" can be as simple as tana

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Craig Falconer
Kerry Mayes wrote, On 18/05/09 12:20: Can some one tell me the difference between STP vs UTP? STP Shielded Twisted Pair UTP Unshielded Twisted Pair STP has a layer of foil around the outside of the 4 copper pairs, which is supposed to be connected to a metal shield around the outside

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kerry Mayes wrote: > > Also, this is on a lifestyle block so set up is a little different to > a suburban situation. > If you're out of the city and likely to have electric fences I'd want even more reason to properly insulate things properly. I don't know about

RE: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Robert Fisher
-Original Message- From: "Volker Kuhlmann" Yes. For starters, the power cables are legally required to be in conduit of their own, and with good reason. Not quite correct. Separation is mandatory and protection is recommended. "Protection" can be as simple as tanalised timber above the

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Kerry Mayes
Thanks for all the help here, Just to clarify, the shed is to be multi-use, I intend to work on cars out there so will obviously need to have the workshop manuals up on the computer screen ... (3 phase is for my next compressor ...) Also, this is on a lifestyle block so set up is a little differe

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Craig Falconer
Volker Kuhlmann wrote, On 18/05/09 10:25: Which reminds me, make sure your house and shed have their earths solidly connected! Is it worth running an earth wire in the trench ? Or is that going to be bad later? -- Craig Falconer

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Sun 17 May 2009 22:45:45 NZST +1200, Kerry Mayes wrote: Not OT IMHO, although not restricted to Linux. > I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), Woow, talk about green computing! The water is for the PC cooling...? ;) > water and data > (phone & network). I have (with signifi

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Craig Falconer
Kerry Mayes wrote, On 17/05/09 22:46: I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), water and data (phone & network). I have (with significant help) dug the trench to the shed and will be organising the connections in the next few weeks. However, if I run the network cables next to the

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Errington < a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: > > I would run 2 cat5e cables through irrigation tube and keep this 50mm away > from the electrical conduit all along the trench. > > I'd probably go for Cat6 ( or in extreme cases, cat7) these days, its prob

Re: OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sun, May 17, 2009 19:45, Kerry Mayes wrote: > I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), water and data > (phone & network). I have (with significant help) dug the trench to > the shed and will be organising the connections in the next few weeks. > > However, if I run the network ca

OT: Cabling to a shed

2009-05-17 Thread Kerry Mayes
I'm wanting to connect up my shed for power (3 phase), water and data (phone & network). I have (with significant help) dug the trench to the shed and will be organising the connections in the next few weeks. However, if I run the network cables next to the power cables I'll have issues, yes? Is