Diary coordination time..
28 & 29 August (weekend) - two activities:
1. Saturday 28th, Software Freedom Day (SFD) is go, in Free/Open format
- details here: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/hackstop.html
CLUG can help in a variety of ways, starting with members being
available to tutor newcomers, onsit
Hi,
Chris Sawtell and I took on the job of contacting the
school, and here is the update.
There is an issue of respecting Lyttelton West school, and not discussing
their situation on a public forum. Consequently, none of what you read
below is attributable to them.
Chris and I have also contact
good work
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 15:38:58 +1200 (NZST)
Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Just got through.
>
> The best person to contact is not currently in.
> He will be in Wednesday, and I will contact him then.
>
> Please leave this to me - I don't want the school innundat
Hi,
Just got through.
The best person to contact is not currently in.
He will be in Wednesday, and I will contact him then.
Please leave this to me - I don't want the school innundated with phone
calls from clug members.
If you want to do it, well, contact me off list.
Derek.
On Mon, 2 Aug 20
Thas pretty typical of small schools. if the secretary is not there all
the teachers are in the classroom
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:59:40 +1200 (NZST)
Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> yeah, I just tried to ring them and got the answering machine.
>
> http://www.whitepages.co.n
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:37, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:20:34 +1200
>
> Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:36, Derek Smithies wrote:
> > > Comment ?
> >
> > While installing an LTSP net is not as easy as falling off a log and
> > holding out your
Hi,
yeah, I just tried to ring them and got the answering machine.
http://www.whitepages.co.nz/quick/search?key=lyttelton+west&lkey=&loc=CH&x=0&y=0&listing_type=ALL&exact_spelling=0
Certainly, a set of second hand machines would be the basis of the network
machines. You would have
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:20:34 +1200
Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:36, Derek Smithies wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I received the message below from Simon Knight.
> > Thankyou Simon for this informative message.
> >
> > Having read (skimmed through) the requirements
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:36, Derek Smithies wrote:
> Hi,
> I received the message below from Simon Knight.
> Thankyou Simon for this informative message.
>
> Having read (skimmed through) the requirements for a server, and looked at
> the overview, it is clear that the ministry of ed is not fixated
ndows virus from me..
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 12:11:09 +1200
From: Simon Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: proposal for publicity
Ministry of Education
School ICT Network Infrastructure Upgr
> Next challenge: Doing this via port 443 and a proxy server
> which requires
> authentication.
>
> No problem for PuTTY 'cos it has places for all of these
> settings in the
> PuTTY GUI.
Type in plink to see what options it supports. I can't see anything about
proxies in there.
Also I can't
Next challenge: Doing this via port 443 and a proxy server which requires
authentication.
No problem for PuTTY 'cos it has places for all of these settings in the
PuTTY GUI.
[Robert Fisher]
I should have made myself clearer.
When I say no probs for PuTTY I mean that I can run a console using P
You don't have to wait for the kdm window to come up, then login, then wait
for KDE to start up. Just click on the icon and a couple of seconds later
the app is there.
[Robert Fisher]
True.
Next challenge: Doing this via port 443 and a proxy server which requires
authentication.
No problem f
> Mind you, I wonder what benefit that has over using
> /usr/X11R6/bin/startxdmcp.bat and getting the
> full glorious
> Linux desktop on the Windows machine.
It's better than having 2 desktops. How many times have you been using your
KDE desktop and pressed Alt-Tab to switch between apps on your
machine.
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: David Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2004 4:32 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: proposal for publicity
> Actually, what I see in the X window is
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
> $
(FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2004 4:26 p.m.
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: proposal for publicity
Actually, what I see in the X window is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$
or put another way...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$
Regards, Robert
-Origin
> Actually, what I see in the X window is
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
> $
>
> or put another way...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
> $
You might need to comment out any extra stuff that it tries to load in your
new X server. Check for a line that says:
run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg ye
: proposal for publicity
> If I use /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat the same
> password is not
> accepted.
Startxwin.bat shouldn't ask for a password. It should just start X in
multi-window mode. You won't see anything onscreen except an X icon in the
System Tray.
The only time y
The only time you need to put in a password is when you authenticate your
ssh session to the Linux box.
[Robert Fisher]
This is where my password is not accepted.
This can be avoided by setting up a public
and a private key and using Pagent. I have it working here now.
[Robert Fisher]
This is
> If I use /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat the same
> password is not
> accepted.
Startxwin.bat shouldn't ask for a password. It should just start X in
multi-window mode. You won't see anything onscreen except an X icon in the
System Tray.
The only time you need to put in a password is when you a
I am still working on making it easier. As we type, I am trying to
eliminate the need for a password by creating a public and a private key.
Later
David Kirk
[Robert Fisher]
Good.
I have been having a bit of a play here.
I can use PuTTY to ssh to a SuSE box here (after changing a line in
ss
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:10:15 +1200 (NZST)
Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Having had a couple of days to digest the storm of emails on this thread,
> there is one thing that should be noted.
>
> We have all heard stories of how some linux expert came along, did an
> install,
Hi,
Having had a couple of days to digest the storm of emails on this thread,
there is one thing that should be noted.
We have all heard stories of how some linux expert came along, did an
install, and left the computer owner with a new OS. And the new owner
struggled.
My view is that if we a
I have putty set up with keys to enable automatic logons from my winbox
to my server.
plink has a -i parameter for key files, just like ssh.
the putty suite also has pageant, an authentication agent, which you can
put your passphrase into once per session and forget about (although of
course anyon
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:10:11 +1200
David Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > David, your doco to set up the Linux Desktop over Cygwin was
> > great. I have
> > been using it at work since the day you posted it on the CLUG
> > mailing list.
>
> Great. Try the new bits that I have added. You c
> David, your doco to set up the Linux Desktop over Cygwin was
> great. I have
> been using it at work since the day you posted it on the CLUG
> mailing list.
Great. Try the new bits that I have added. You can run a Linux application
next to your Windows applications.
I am still working on ma
bject: RE: proposal for publicity
Here is an idea that would give people the option to run Windows programs or
Linux programs. There is no need for dual booting, emualtors or virtual
machines.
Set up an LTSP server and install lots of applications on it. On the
Windows workstations, install Cyg
Here is an idea that would give people the option to run Windows programs or
Linux programs. There is no need for dual booting, emualtors or virtual
machines.
Set up an LTSP server and install lots of applications on it. On the
Windows workstations, install Cygwin/X (or have them run it from a S
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 19:27, Caleb Sawtell wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:52, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
> > [2] Yes, Tux Racer is fun. Yes, UT will run on Linux (out of the box).
> > Yes, the entire Doom and Quake series runs under Linux. Yes,
> > Neverwinter Nights runs under Linux. But t
steve wrote:
There was a job ad in the Press on Saturday for a network technician for
a school in Chch. Needed to be able to support their Mac based network.
Now, for the teaching of mainstream IT skills, is really, really silly!
Clarification - to support a OS8/OS9 Mac environment. Had it been O
Terry Cole wrote
[snip]
The positive thing is to remember the saying 'softly, softly catchee
monkey'. In other words take small bites, get good results and grow from
there. Install a Web Server, set up Intranet, Internet access and host
the schools website on the server. Set up so that Teachers
Not trying to put the stoppers on things, but talking from experience,
the following are my ramblings on the subject.
I have been working in a High School (1300 students) as Network
Manager/Installer/Fixer, Dogs Body and Teacher for over 6 years.
I have been using a Linux Web Server in the school f
Vik Olliver wrote:
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 12:02, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
A problem which may apply to schools is with multimedia. Using old boxes
with low spec graphics cards might be limiting for presentations. Also I do
not know how successful others have been but I still do not have s
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:52, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
> [1] I am excluding educational programing systems for the tertiary
> sector (such as Matlab).
> [2] Yes, Tux Racer is fun. Yes, UT will run on Linux (out of the box).
> Yes, the entire Doom and Quake series runs under Linux. Yes,
>
smartcom?
Nick Rout wrote:
Oh and you will find linux software in many schools now, a local product
who's name escapes me, is used for network infrastructure, user account
management etc.
It is in my son's school and also in the secondary school i mentioned in
the other thread.
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 12:02, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> A problem which may apply to schools is with multimedia. Using old boxes
> with low spec graphics cards might be limiting for presentations. Also I do
> not know how successful others have been but I still do not have sound
> working o
. The hardest thing was booting the CD rather than the
drive.
-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 3:58 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: proposal for publicity -my liitle story
My little story. A pupil at a secondary school told
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 15:57, Ross Drummond wrote:
> I speculate that use of Linux in education may be more common than we think.
One can only hope :)
--
Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
My little story. A pupil at a secondary school told me than one day during
class in a computer suite the teacher handed all students a KNOPPIX CD
instructed them to insert it into the cdrom drive & reboot. I did not find
out what purpose this was used for.
I speculate that use of Linux in educa
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 14:38, Jim Cheetham wrote:
> Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> > One thing I forgot to mention is the consideration of applications.
>
> In the (primary) schools I've seen, the teachers don't use "the
> computers" for a lesson, they use "this software package"
[snip]
> This would be
ginal Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 2:39 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: proposal for publicity
Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> One thing I forgot to mention is the consideration of applications.
In the (primary) schools I've seen, the t
The uses are many and varied, viz my 8 year old's class, covering an
Enquiry learning method in a class of year's 5, 6 & 7. 30 kids, 4
computers.
* When I go in in the morning, the kids are playing games, varied
educational aspects from 0% to 75% i would guess
* the class have produced straight w
Sascha Beaumont wrote:
One thing I forgot to mention is the consideration of applications.
In the (primary) schools I've seen, the teachers don't use "the
computers" for a lesson, they use "this software package". Stuff like
Reader Rabbit, Magic School Bus and so on. Stuff that the WINE project
Hi,
yes, there are issues with it not looking the same.
I am "told" that the differences can be fixed by installing more fonts
etc.
I would also point out that the incompatibilities are no different to
those experienced on moving between different versions of office.
Derek.
==
One thing I forgot to mention is the consideration of applications.
I don't mean to be pessimistic but the biggest issue would be with the
migration of MS Office. An ideal target school would be one who has
already begun to use Openoffice.org on their windows machines.
The solution we ended up wi
At 2004-07-26T13:14:48+1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > job, the Ultimate Linux Box 2004 with quad AMD 64 and 32GB (that is
> >
> > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7563
> I liked this:
> "with this much RAM we took the opportunity to build a kernel in a
> tmpfs partition. 2.6.4 with al
Derek Smithies wrote:
> 30 computers to be used as terminals.
The HP T5300 Thin Client looks interesting. I'm not sure if anyone has
looked at this, a quick google shows that HP intend it for LTSP use
(although it does come with Windows CE.NET) what about the option of
approaching HP and having t
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:02:28 +1200
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > job, the Ultimate Linux Box 2004 with quad AMD 64 and 32GB (that is
>
> > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7563
>
> Uhm yeah but I thought there was that "B"-word we had aorund... ;)
>
> Volker
I like
> job, the Ultimate Linux Box 2004 with quad AMD 64 and 32GB (that is
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7563
Uhm yeah but I thought there was that "B"-word we had aorund... ;)
Volker
--
Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header
http://volker.dns
of course those who subscribe to Linux Journal will know the box for the
job, the Ultimate Linux Box 2004 with quad AMD 64 and 32GB (that is
thirty-two gigabytes, not a misprint) of RAM
the video card is impressive too:
"Appian's Rushmore card offers four displays at up to 2048×1536 resolution.
W
> server - dual or quad amd 64 or xeon
If you're on a budget, the amd 64 seems exceptionally good value -
forget about intel 64 anything. Plus you can get ready-to-run linux out
of the box with good printed manuals to give to the scholl for $200. I'd
be rather keen to test that out - if anyone can
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-Original Message-
From: Bryce Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: proposal for publicity
Hi folks, this may be of some interest to you:
http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/
I have been interested in tryi
Oh and you will find linux software in many schools now, a local product
who's name escapes me, is used for network infrastructure, user account
management etc.
It is in my son's school and also in the secondary school i mentioned in
the other thread.
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:26:14 +1200
Bryce Watk
Hi folks, this may be of some interest to you:
http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/
I have been interested in trying it out for some time and this may be
the perfect oportunity. So I would therefore also be interested in
assisting with this project. Before comming to Uni I was the IT Systems
En
> I propose that we offer to do a rollout of a LTSP based network at a
> local school.
I have an LTSP setup at the OSTC that you can use for demo and training
purposes. This is exactly what the OSTC was set up to do :-)
The server is a Pentium III 733 with 256 MB RAM. The clients are P II 300
-Original Message-
From: Ian Laurenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 12:05 p.m.
To: clug
Subject:Re: proposal for publicity
As Lyttelton West has already gone down this path maybe they have
already done a lot of this work. If not, it would be good
I've got plenty of time, and a lot of linux experience, though not that much
with networks - it's hard to teach yourself network admin on a benefit.
I could do a lot of what's needed.
Wesley Parish
Quoting Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> In the past, there have been many discuss
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 11:24, Nick Rout wrote:
> refer Lyttelton West School where I believe such a system is rolled out
> already.
[snip]
> I think there is probably more to it in terms of money than you think.
> for 30 terminals you are probably looking at a $12-15000 investment.
> Based on:
>
>
refer Lyttelton West School where I believe such a system is rolled out
already.
It was prepared by Chris Bayley, formerly of this manor (and mailing
list) but now cruising about in France.
I am on a BoT at another school, I started at April this year so missed
the whole school upgrade at the beg
I have a colleague on a Christchurch BOT who has already shown an interest
in going down this track with his school. They already have a room
available. He is going to take this info to his Board meeting tomorrow
night.
I have been on the Shirley BHS Board for several years and can state that
the
Good idea,
I'd be 100% behind this and would volunteer my time and may even be able to
provide a number of suitable client PCs (hey and network cards too!). I think
that Primary Schools are the most likely candidate.
To really get this off the ground we'd need to form a committee and have a fe
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