Re: qemu WAS VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-29 Thread Dale Anderson
As Nick said qemu is damn slow , but then again it is basically a fork of bochs with a few extras added to aid initial setup and configuration. Cheers Dale. On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 14:02 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: > On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 13:04 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: > > have you tried it? I see it is

Re: qemu WAS VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-29 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 13:04 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: > have you tried it? I see it is in portage. > > hint you need softmmu in your USE variable. > > I'll report after lunch. > > On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 12:13 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > Greets, > > > > Folks who are interested in this

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-29 Thread Nick Rout
have you tried it? I see it is in portage. hint you need softmmu in your USE variable. I'll report after lunch. On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 12:13 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > Greets, > > Folks who are interested in this thread may also be interested to read > about > another Free emulator

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
Greets, Folks who are interested in this thread may also be interested to read about another Free emulator which has been released. http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/52/QEMU_System_Emulation.pdf Take care, it's 334 kB but well worth the read imho. -- Sincerely etc., Christopher Sawtell

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-28 Thread Ken.McAllister
Someone wrote: What's happening about this? Are we anywhere in the running? 6 pm Sunday I just registered for something, although (a) it wouldn't accept my email address ("already registered") and I had to supply another, and (b) at no stage did it ask me what LUG I was claiming to be President o

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-28 Thread Dale Anderson
No further correspondence thus far , have been on holiday this week , will follow up early next week and see what is happening . Cheers Dale. On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 22:29 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18, Dale Anderson wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Not sure if anyone is i

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18, Dale Anderson wrote: > Hi All > > Not sure if anyone is interested or not > http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp What's happening about this? Are we anywhere in the running? -- Sincerely etc., Christopher Sawtell

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread Richard Tindall
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Nick Rout wrote: dare i say "get a new distro" Often worth a try. All routes to maximised computer functionality worth knowing about, but.. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:26, Steve Holdoway wrote: ...not really. If you're suggesting that Debian is lacking in some way, then

RE: Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread C. Falconer
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer .. Looks like it's working better so far, thanks. But where's this patch come from? I can't find a thing on the vmware.com site about it. Cheers, Steve On Thu, January 27, 2005

Re: Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread Steve Holdoway
ginal Message- > From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 5:10 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer .. > > > I don't know if this has been pointed out, but... > > It doesn'

Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread C. Falconer
oddle to apply. -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 5:10 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer .. I don't know if this has been pointed out, but... It doesn't run properly on

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Dale Anderson
Works/ed fine for me , 4.0+ on debian,ubuntu, gentoo , self rolled , hell it even worked on SuSe ;) (oh SUSE since novell merge) iirc . Cheers Dale. On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 17:10 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Dale Anderson wrote: > > >Hi All > > > >Not sure if anyone is interested or not

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:26, Steve Holdoway wrote: Nick Rout wrote: 4.5.2 works fine on my gentoo system with every kernel i've ever used, from 2.4 series through to the current 2.6.10 4.5.2-8848 is what I am no longer using (: sam

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:26, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > >>>4.5.2 works fine on my gentoo system with every kernel i've ever used, > >>>from 2.4 series through to the current 2.6.10 > >>4.5.2-8848 is what I am no longer using (: > > > >same here actually . > > > >dare i say "get a ne

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:20, Nick Rout wrote: > > >4.5.2 works fine on my gentoo system with every kernel i've ever used, > > >from 2.4 series through to the current 2.6.10 > > > > > >>Steve > > > > 4.5.2-8848 is what I am no longer using (: > > same here actually . > > dare i say "get a new distro"

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
Nick Rout wrote: 4.5.2 works fine on my gentoo system with every kernel i've ever used, from 2.4 series through to the current 2.6.10 Steve 4.5.2-8848 is what I am no longer using (: same here actually . dare i say "get a new distro" Steve .

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Nick Rout
> > > >4.5.2 works fine on my gentoo system with every kernel i've ever used, > >from 2.4 series through to the current 2.6.10 > > > > > > > > > > > >>Steve > >> > >> > > > > > > > 4.5.2-8848 is what I am no longer using (: same here actually . dare i say "get a new distro" > > Steve

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:10:05 +1300 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. I don't know if this has been pointed out, but... It

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:10:05 +1300 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dale Anderson wrote: > > >Hi All > > > >Not sure if anyone is interested or not > >http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp > > > >Cheers > >Dale. > > > > > > > I don't know if this has been pointed out

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. I don't know if this has been pointed out, but... It doesn't run properly on any up-to-date kernel. That's debian with 2.6.8 or 2.6.9, FC2 or FC3 with 2.6.10 (

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-25 Thread Hadley Rich
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03, Hadley Rich wrote: > I am using v5 beta[1] at the moment. Seems to be working fine from > the little I have played with it. I can't seem to find anywhere a > time limit on the beta versions license. If it doesn't run out it > could be handy. It does. hads -- To A Quic

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Andy George
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44, Andy George wrote: Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. Dont wanna keep one, but I could certainly borrow one until I get bored with

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ...... what's in it for VMWARE?

2005-01-16 Thread Ken.McAllister
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I beg to differ. Pres can say "I told every subscriber of http://", and vmware can spam that... Volker Ah. Um. Thanks. My clock's wrong, too. Ken

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Dale Anderson
anuary 17, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer .. > here are the terms & conditions. > > http://www.vmware.com/pdf/lug_terms_conditions.pdf > > i posted the EULA a day or so ago. > > frankly i don't care who registers as president of our lug and receives &

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ...... what's in it for VMWARE?

2005-01-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> ** It's true that the last sentence doesn't say "all addresses." But > when they ask, in terms of Condition So-and-so, "Whom have you told > about us?" the only practical way our Presidential Nominee can reply is > by making available the complete LUG address list. I beg to differ. Pres can

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ...... what's in it for VMWARE?

2005-01-16 Thread Ken.McAllister
Nick Rout wrote:... heres the text: In consideration VMware asks that each Linux Group President inform his or her colleagues, associates and Linux user group members of the benefits that he or she receives from using VMware products. a Linux User Group President must submit the Linux User G

RE: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Lance Blackler
I'll put my hand up for a copy if there is one spare, I would prefer win4lin, but beggars and all that. lance -Original Message- From: david merriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:33:44 +1300 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: VMWAR

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Rik Tindall
reads distinctly like a pyramid marketing scheme Nick Rout wrote: 6. A Linux User Group President may not transfer the Product license provided in connection with this Program to any other person or entity. 7. The first One Thousand (1,000) Linux User Group Members to complete a valid on-line regi

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Phill Coxon
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 12:01, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > As I understood, a further 5 LUG members can also get a free license. So > far, fewer than that have shown interest. I'll definitely have a copy if there's any left. :)

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> frankly i don't care who registers as president of our lug and receives > a free license. however as there is a considerable benefit in terms of > license fees, i suggest a consensus would be nice. As I understood, a further 5 LUG members can also get a free license. So far, fewer than that have

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:03, Dale Anderson wrote: > Im already registered , ill find out the furthur terms and conditions of > the licence and take it from there . I'd like a copy please, if that's possible? VMware burble on about being a group registered on either the linux counter:- http://counte

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:43:46 +1300 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > here are the terms & conditions. > > http://www.vmware.com/pdf/lug_terms_conditions.pdf bugger it access to that doc may depend on going through the hoops of the previous pages, heres the text: (sorry i do not have time

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout
here are the terms & conditions. http://www.vmware.com/pdf/lug_terms_conditions.pdf i posted the EULA a day or so ago. frankly i don't care who registers as president of our lug and receives a free license. however as there is a considerable benefit in terms of license fees, i suggest a consens

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread david merriman
Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. I'd be interested in a copy too. David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:53:23 +1300 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44, Andy George wrote: > > Dale Anderson wrote: > > >Hi All > > > > > >Not sure if anyone is interested or not > > >http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp > > > > > >Cheers > >

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-16 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44, Andy George wrote: > Dale Anderson wrote: > >Hi All > > > >Not sure if anyone is interested or not > >http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp > > > >Cheers > >Dale. > > Dont wanna keep one, but I could certainly borrow one until I get bored > with it... > > I

Re: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Richard Graham
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 00:27 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Win4Lin have a similar offer > > > > http://www.netraverse.com/LUG/ > > I'd be interested here too, the price is certainly much more reasonable. > In the past however win4lin had a number of drawbacks affecting its > usefulness: I purc

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Nick Rout
here is the license (according to /usr/portage/licenses/vmware) On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 11:03 +1300, Dale Anderson wrote: > Im already registered , ill find out the furthur terms and conditions of > the licence and take it from there . > > Cheers > Dale. > > On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 10:45 +1300, N

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Brendan Greer
hi I´m keen for a copy Was playing around with an evaluation copy but that ran out a few months ago. I could probably offer some comments Brendan Greer

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Dale Anderson
Im already registered , ill find out the furthur terms and conditions of the licence and take it from there . Cheers Dale. On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 10:45 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 09:50 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > > I'm happy to go ahead and organise it ...I guess the ma

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 09:50 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > I'm happy to go ahead and organise it ...I guess the main issue is am I > > going to stand on somebodies toes if I do so ? > > No, and anyone with sensitive toes has time to speak up now or forever > hold their breath. > > > Is there

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I'm happy to go ahead and organise it ...I guess the main issue is am I > going to stand on somebodies toes if I do so ? No, and anyone with sensitive toes has time to speak up now or forever hold their breath. > Is there a 'president' of CLUG pursue ? There is a committee for organising the

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Actually on further inspection it may not be a good tip after all. Apart from being a pull-everyone-over-the-table license, it doesn't allow the user to use the beta for anything useful. Difficult to police though until you go public with your new product developed on the beta. > So they may we

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Hadley Rich
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:50, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Good tip, but have you actually read the utterly obnoxious license? Actually on further inspection it may not be a good tip after all. From the license: >Licensee's rights with respect to >the Beta Software will terminate upon the earlier of (a

Re: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Win4Lin have a similar offer > > http://www.netraverse.com/LUG/ I'd be interested here too, the price is certainly much more reasonable. In the past however win4lin had a number of drawbacks affecting its usefulness: Kernel patch required. Effect on stability? It's not likely to be uptodate wit

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Andy George
Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. Dont wanna keep one, but I could certainly borrow one until I get bored with it... I wouldnt mind a turn with one of the copies... -- No virus found in this o

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> [1]http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws5_beta.html Good tip, but have you actually read the utterly obnoxious license? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

RE: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Lance Blackler
TED]> Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44:19 +1300 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer .. Dale Anderson wrote: >Hi All > >Not sure if anyone is interested or not >http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp > >Cheers >Dale. > >

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-14 Thread Dale Anderson
I'm happy to go ahead and organise it ...I guess the main issue is am I going to stand on somebodies toes if I do so ? Is there a 'president' of CLUG pursue ? Cheers Dale. On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 20:27 +1300, Robert Himmelmann wrote: > I would also be intrested in a copy. Then I could finally ab

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-13 Thread Robert Himmelmann
I would also be intrested in a copy. Then I could finally abandon my windows partitions and try a second distro. I would also write some comments. Happy Hacking, Robert +---+ |If you don't know what 'Happy Hacking' means, read | |the book '

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Not sure if anyone is interested or not > http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Yes please, I'd like a free copy. I'd even be prepared to listen to a vmware rep and make a few comments in return... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain i

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-13 Thread Hadley Rich
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > I wouldnt mind a turn with one of the copies... > > They at least used to have free 30-day evaluation licenses for > that. Much easier for you. I am using v5 beta[1] at the moment. Seems to be working fine from the little I have played with it

Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Dont wanna keep one, but I could certainly borrow one until I get bored > with it... > > I wouldnt mind a turn with one of the copies... They at least used to have free 30-day evaluation licenses for that. Much easier for you. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 w

VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-13 Thread Dale Anderson
Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale.