Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-06 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:47:13 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the example in this thread, 'let's get a samba server up and > > running as fast as possible so I can share my files', where does the > > concept of defining security policies, user access, domains, etc, etc, > >

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> In the example in this thread, 'let's get a samba server up and > running as fast as possible so I can share my files', where does the > concept of defining security policies, user access, domains, etc, etc, > etc come in given your approach. Any usable/useful GUI tool ought to ask you for those

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:48:36 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And every distro worth mentioning has its own GUI runlevel editor. > > > The problem with all point and click GUIs is, quite simply, that they > > completely hide all the details of what you are trying to do. I.O

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:44:46 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not believe the number of people who seem to be in the "why not > create complicated symlinks manually stuffing everything up and > forgetting to deal with half the runlevels and turning services off at > shutdown

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thursday 06 April 2006 5:14 pm, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > > Personally I quite like the rc-update approach myself > > > > rc-update show > > rc-update add service default > > rc-update add service boot > > rc-update del service > > And the difference to > > chkconfig -l > chkconfig -a

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > Personally I quite like the rc-update approach myself > rc-update show > rc-update add service default > rc-update add service boot > rc-update del service And the difference to chkconfig -l chkconfig -a service chkconfig -d service exactly is which? Get off it, guys. Volker --

Init scripts [was Re: samba / webmin]

2006-04-05 Thread Hadley Rich
On Thursday 06 April 2006 16:58, Robert Fisher wrote: > Me too > > rc-update show > > rc-update  add service default > or > rc-update add service boot > or > rc-update del service > > Really simple. I know this thread has wandered a bit, but I just wanted to show you (the plural you) the simp

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thursday 06 April 2006 3:10 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > Personally I quite like the rc-update approach myself Me too rc-update show rc-update add service default or rc-update add service boot or rc-update del service Really simple.

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 06 April 2006 15:10, Nick Rout wrote: > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:02:57 +1200 > > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > > > btw, noting that I'm not very familiar with how SuSE organises its > > > > runlevels, > > > > > > which is why you shouldn't have given hinm the advice. Volker has it > > >

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > And every distro worth mentioning has its own GUI runlevel editor. > The problem with all point and click GUIs is, quite simply, that they > completely hide all the details of what you are trying to do. I.O.W, while > for some people they are quick and convenient, they will ruin any > funda

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 06 April 2006 14:44, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > And every distro worth mentioning has its own GUI runlevel editor. The problem with all point and click GUIs is, quite simply, that they completely hide all the details of what you are trying to do. I.O.W, while for some people they are qu

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:02:57 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > > > > > btw, noting that I'm not very familiar with how SuSE organises its > > > runlevels, > > > > which is why you shouldn't have given hinm the advice. Volker has it > > sussed. > So did the link I mentioned. > No, that was a

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 06 April 2006 14:33, Nick Rout wrote: > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:52:12 +1200 > > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:21, Roger Searle wrote: > > > thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: > > > > > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb > > > > > > N

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Hadley Rich
On Thursday 06 April 2006 14:44, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > I do not believe the number of people who seem to be in the "why not > create complicated symlinks manually stuffing everything up and > forgetting to deal with half the runlevels and turning services off at > shutdown" corner, instead of ju

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I do not believe the number of people who seem to be in the "why not create complicated symlinks manually stuffing everything up and forgetting to deal with half the runlevels and turning services off at shutdown" corner, instead of just running insserv, which is the Linux standard way of doing it.

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
Nick Rout wrote: > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:52:12 +1200 > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > >> On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:21, Roger Searle wrote: >> >>> thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: >>> >>> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb >>> >>> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d #

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:52:12 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:21, Roger Searle wrote: > > thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: > > > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb > > > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb > > > > all sorte

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
ok for whatever reason my symbolic links are gone! things are set nicely via the runlevel editor, and "appears" to me to be functioning fine. thanks to everyone for your posts. roger Roger Searle wrote: > Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > >>> thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: >>> >>> NINE-S

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: >> thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: >> >> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb >> >> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb >> > > ARRRG. > > Yast runlevel editor. Enable service, save. > Thanks, that was what I was lookin

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Thu, April 6, 2006 1:21 pm, Roger Searle wrote: > >> thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: >> >> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb >> >> NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb >> >> all sorted now. >> roger >> >> > Wrong! the seco

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:21, Roger Searle wrote: > thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb > > all sorted now. Not quite, purists would put the shutdown links in as well, because it's

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, April 6, 2006 1:21 pm, Roger Searle wrote: > thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb > > all sorted now. > roger > Wrong! the second should read ln -s ../nmb S36nmb. Otherwise you

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb > > NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb ARRRG. Yast runlevel editor. Enable service, save. On the command line, insserv or chkconfig. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
thanks cs. have been able to rectify via: NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../smb S35smb NINE-SuSE:/etc/init.d/rc5.d # ln -s ../nmb S36smb all sorted now. roger Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Thursday 06 April 2006 11:51, Roger Searle wrote: > >> where is the best place, or what is

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 06 April 2006 11:51, Roger Searle wrote: > where is the best place, or what is the best method, to ensure that the > machine is set to start both these services each time it boots? http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-boot-init-shutdown-process.html Also s

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
thanks for both replies, the issue seems to be that one or both of samba and webmin aren't starting properly, and that there seems to be (have been?) some inconsistency - in that it looks like webmin failed to start last boot (though is set, within webmin itself, to start on boot), but this time st

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:38:04 +1200 Roger Searle wrote: > Last week I installed webmin, and created some shares that were viewable > on the network from a windows machine. Coming back today I find that > the shares are not available to the windows machine and I can't start > webmin via http://loc

Re: samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Don Gould
Ok, First obvious question is 'why isn't web min working?' I suggest we focus on that first... http://localhost:1/ On my box you have to use httpS:/... because it's on ssl /etc/init.d/webmin restart Are you running x? I find smb4k a really useful tool to help diagnose problems. I've

samba / webmin

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Searle
Last week I installed webmin, and created some shares that were viewable on the network from a windows machine. Coming back today I find that the shares are not available to the windows machine and I can't start webmin via http://localhost:1/samba/ or http://localhost:1/ as I could last we