Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
EWWW! Thank you for that education, Dennis. I did not realize those requirements. YUCK! Having most experience with COL, which puts it in /opt, I have seldom had the chance to experience the difference. But there is definitely something much more clean and flexible about the /opt

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread m.w.chang
People spent more time playing games on desktops than doing serious business. Do we need DirectX and super-intelligent GUI for a business desktop? Definitely no. I frankly don't know wehther they were expecting a capable desktop for business users or game console for home users. Virutally all

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
And what would a single 'unified' linux desktop solve? I *HATE* KDE with a passion. I will never willingly use it again. So, how can you create 1 desktop to serve the needs of everyone? Multiple desktops are not the problem. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: People spent more time

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Agreed. The purpose shouldn't be to dictate what you run, but to make sure whatever you choose to run is installed the same way across distros. It would help greatly, if a distro has kde for example, they would install it the same as everyone else. If there's an argument against that, beyond

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Ok, perhaps. But how hard is it to say pick one, any one, and go with it. It's a Jihad because people make it so, not because of some compelling technical reason. Let's just settle it by making a new directory called /jihad and put everything there. Arguing tastes great less filling gets us

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread dep
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Ok, perhaps. But how hard is it to say pick one, any one, and go | with it. It's a Jihad because people make it so, not because of | some compelling technical reason. but, you see, there *is* a compelling technical reason. putting it in /usr makes life very

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
So put it in /opt. Or put it in /foo or /dep. Just put it somewhere and put it there every time. I'm not arguing for a *particular* solution. Just *one* solution. Is there somewhere a compelling argument against standardizing such things. I'm willing to be educated. Michael On Friday 21

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Perhaps I need a little educating. What is the reason that putting KDE in /opt makes life any easier? There's /usr, /usr/local, and /opt, and it seems like everyone picks one and sticks with it, but I don't immediately see the reason that /opt is any better than /usr. Perhaps I missed it

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread dep
begin Matthew Carpenter's quote: | Perhaps I need a little educating. What is the reason that putting | KDE in /opt makes life any easier? for this we must consult the fhs. it specifies that when kde is put into /usr or /usr/local, then the files must be spread out over that directory.

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Susan Macchia
While I agree w/ Lonni in principle (its about choice and multiple desktops can serve the needs of differing markets IMHO), and don't hate KDE I want to add that not *all* desktop users are gamers. I beg to differ in a BIG way. For example I have worked for 2 different companies (with THOUSANDS

IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-20 Thread Michael Hipp
Does this mean IBM is becoming less enthusiastic about Linux. Anybody hear more of this? Michael http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/archives/200206/msg00090.html === WARNING: This e-mail has been altered by MIMEDefang.

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-20 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:11:59 -0500 begin Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Does this mean IBM is becoming less enthusiastic about Linux. Anybody hear more of this? Michael http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/archives/200206/msg00090.html I suspect this means IBM just isn't

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-20 Thread Harry G
I suspect it is totally a business (translated profit) decision. The money right now is in large systems, where they can sell their database, WebSphere system, and hardware. I personally feel that it will all come full circle eventually. Many, if not all Linux companies are hurting, and