Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sunday 03 November 2002 10:48 pm, Michael Scottaline espoused: Not sure about the 8.0 version, but RH 7.3, though defaulting to GRUB, did provide the option of using lilo instead on one of the insatallation screens. Mike Default in 8.1 is Grub no lilo offered. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF)

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I just looked at this again. I know why I picked what I did. It was the SGI ISO that does what RH's CD 1 does - do the install and hopefully merge the XFS stuff in with the standard install. I would have thought that since it knew what architecture I had that it would have built or used an

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/04/2002 03:50 PM, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: As for sndconfig - is that a necessity with RH? Caldera set it up automatically. Caldera was no more automatic than Redhat. sndconfig is Redhat's sound setup utility. -- ~ L.

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Net Llama!
I think that Keith was talking about his Mandrake box. On 11/04/2002 03:51 PM, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Hmm, is 8.1 out as a fix for 8.0 and does it work? I sure hope grub works then for my system. On Sunday 03 November 2002 10:48 pm, Michael Scottaline espoused: Not sure about the 8.0

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Mathews
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Hmm, is 8.1 out as a fix for 8.0 and does it work? I sure hope grub works then for my system. On Sunday 03 November 2002 10:48 pm, Michael Scottaline espoused: Not sure about the 8.0 version, but RH 7.3, though defaulting to GRUB, did provide the option of using

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Net Llama!
I would guess that a simple rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.18-SGI_XFS_1.1.athlon.rpm would do the trick. You might need to manually update lilo.conf too. On 11/04/2002 03:59 PM, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I just looked at this again. I know why I picked what I did. It was the SGI ISO that does what RH's

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
What I meant by automatic was that when I installed Col 3.1 on my system my soundcard came up and ran without an work on my part. I remember because under eD 2.4 I bought the OSS drivers and used them to get sound working so I was pleasantly surprised when 3.1 had working sound after an

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you. I'm perusing the SGI site now in detail. It looks like I'll get the rpm you suggested and then start from there. Sound, I'll worry about later. Sndconfig only lists earlier Turtle Beach cards. I guess I'll build a kernel with sound support for the Santa Cruz, then patch if for

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Okay. I'll try it -after I finish reading the XFS site in it's entirety G. I've been going through all the docs on installation there. It appears that if I build a kernel (say 2.4.19) that I need to apply patches against it. The docs are a little unclear in that one page says I need to

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Mathews
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I think so (red face). I downloaded the one for RH and didn't check the architecture. As for sndconfig - is that a necessity with RH? Caldera set it up automatically. The installer iso is x86 based, but SGI has Athlon rpm's available, it's just that the Installer

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Okay. Thanks. I'll get 2.4.18 up from the RPM and then work on it from there. you can most definitely patch 2.4.19 (its what all of my desktop boxes are running) with XFS. Then again, unless you really need something that 2.4.19 has, there's not any advantage that i've seen to go to

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Net Llama!
you can most definitely patch 2.4.19 (its what all of my desktop boxes are running) with XFS. Then again, unless you really need something that 2.4.19 has, there's not any advantage that i've seen to go to 2.4.19. On 11/04/2002 04:33 PM, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Okay. I'll try it -after I

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I am actually a Grub-user, but I must say that since LILO went graphical, there is really no reason not to use LILO. Grub has some cool things, but now LILO does as well. LILO, in addition to what GRUB does, includes the option to change the default boot ONLY for the next boot, it, forces a

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Mathews
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I just looked at this again. I know why I picked what I did. It was the SGI ISO that does what RH's CD 1 does - do the install and hopefully merge the XFS stuff in with the standard install. I would have thought that since it knew what architecture I had that it

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks. I'm downloading the Athlon SMP now. I understand - and very much appreciate - the amount of work it takes to do this so I salute Russell. It's a shame RH doesn't add XFS as it's file system. Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I just looked at this again. I know why I picked what I did. It

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Collins
On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:34:06 -0700 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: As for sndconfig - is that a necessity with RH? I've found that sound is temperamental, some machines are automatic, some require sndconfig to get it working. Yep. Brett's sound card

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Mathews
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks. I'm downloading the Athlon SMP now. I understand - and very much appreciate - the amount of work it takes to do this so I salute Russell. It's a shame RH doesn't add XFS as it's file system. Yeah, I agree. I've had a couple of lengthy *discussions* with one

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-03 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:28:33 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: begin David A. Bandel's quote: | LILO: handles 1024+ cylinders just fine and is being upgraded | regularly by the lilo folks (only being phased out by Caldera | AFAICT). supports any OS. you can boot into a

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-03 Thread Collins
On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:45:32 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LILO didn't support 1024+ cylinder when GRUB was out. It was a temporary solution for Caldea, I suppose. At any rate, LILO has had +1024 cylinder support for prolly around 2 years now. I continue to use LILO, and only

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-03 Thread Collins
If LILO works. use it and be happy. At one point while still using LILO, I got into a you can't get there from here situation when installing a new release (can't remember the details) where the LILO version on the distro did not like the LILO version on the mbr, leaving me stranded and not

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Can't you do the equivalent of a chainload in LILO? I will have some spare partitions that I'll use for testing and I'd like to boot from any one of them as I can in GRUB. Brett Holcomb wrote: As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the

Re: info navigation (was LILO vs GRUB)

2002-11-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks for the tip. When I'm forced to use info I'll do that! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:46:39 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thank you for the comments. I guess since I've only used Caldera till now that's why I thought LILO was being phased

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-03 Thread m.w.chang
I second that. default grub config works fine for me. I had problem ugrading lilo when I heard of her fresh support for 1024+. There was quite confusion back then, and even Redhat got (was it 7.0) setup problems with regard to LILO (missing the linear line). Couldn't quite remember Now that

LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-02 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the impression that GRUB was to replace LILO for various reasons (supposedly better in some way - handles booting over 1024 cylinders, etc.) but a lot of people are sticking with LILO. Is LILO being phased out?

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-02 Thread David A. Bandel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:40:30 -0500 begin Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the impression that GRUB was to replace LILO for various reasons

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-02 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/02/2002 06:40 PM, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the impression that GRUB was to replace LILO for various reasons (supposedly better in some way - handles booting over 1024 cylinders, etc.) but a lot of people are

Re: LILO vs GRUB

2002-11-02 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Brett Holcomb wrote: As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the impression that GRUB was to replace LILO for various reasons (supposedly better in some way - handles booting over 1024 cylinders, etc.) but a lot of people are sticking with LILO. Is