Re: [Paps-discuss] Combining characters not rendered properly

2006-12-11 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Arne Götje (高盛華) wrote: > [..] yes, it depends totally on the font to define the > *position* of the accents (and weather or not they can be > stacked). But it depends on the rendering engine to *interpret* > the information the font gives about the accents. > > BTW: there was no irony in my state

Unicode chars in list archive

2006-12-11 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
This subject sometimes comes up, but not nearly frequently enough I think. The web archives of this list at http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/ do not preserve utf-8 characters intact. This is absurd given the subject of this list. Is there no way of remedying this situation? Could this list be

Re: [Paps-discuss] Combining characters not rendered properly

2006-12-11 Thread Arne Götje (高盛華)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Arne Götje (高盛華) wrote: >> [..] yes, it depends totally on the font to define the >> *position* of the accents (and weather or not they can be >> stacked). But it depends on the rendering engine to *interpret* >> the informa

Re: Unicode chars in list archive

2006-12-11 Thread Egmont Koblinger
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:00:31AM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > This subject sometimes comes up, but not nearly frequently enough > I think. > > The web archives of this list at > http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/ do not preserve utf-8 > characters intact. This is absurd given the subjec

Do combinations need to be defined in advance?

2006-12-11 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Arne Götje (高盛華) wrote (in another thread, replying to Rich Felker): > In this case, *you* need to *define* which combinations you > need and *how* they should be displayed. and (replying to Andries Brouwer): > But please, if you do so, provide the necessary information > (which combinations a

Re: Do combinations need to be defined in advance?

2006-12-11 Thread Andries Brouwer
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 05:06:23PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I am beginning to think that the responsibility for correct > "combining accents" behaviour rests primarily with the rendering > engine, rather than with the fonts. The fonts must, of course, > include the combining accents, oth

Re: Do combinations need to be defined in advance?

2006-12-11 Thread Rich Felker
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 05:49:22PM +0100, Andries Brouwer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 05:06:23PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > > > I am beginning to think that the responsibility for correct > > "combining accents" behaviour rests primarily with the rendering > > engine, rather than with

Re: Do combinations need to be defined in advance?

2006-12-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The OpenType system is very poorly designed from what I can tell. In > the Tibetan fonts I've examined, rather than just saying "character > U+0F62 needs to use an alternate glyph when followed by any of {list > here} combining characters", there are individual ligature > combination tables for e