> On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, ??? wrote:
>
> > I am afraid they will buy it when they have no or very few choice. When
> > the majority of the boards on the market are DRM enabled or most of
> > the digital information requires DRM to be accessed, pepole will
> > buy these products. I don't know how it is
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, SONE Takeshi wrote:
> To clarify, what I've done is merely enabling VGA by executing the
> mfr's proprietary VGABIOS.
> Perhaps Steve is talking about enabling the device without
> such binary-only code, but by directly programming the
> (poorly documented) registers with outb(
ron minnich wrote:
that's quite funny. First, M$ builds insecure software, then pushes DRM as
a fix for their own software?
Who was it that said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the
stupidity of the American public" ? P.T. Barnum I think.
-Steve
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On Friday 05 September 2003 4:05 pm, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, ??? wrote:
> > I am afraid they will buy it when they have no or very few choice. When
> > the majority of the boards on the market are DRM enabled or most of
> > the digital information requires DRM to be accessed, pepo
SONE Takeshi wrote:
To clarify, what I've done is merely enabling VGA by executing the
mfr's proprietary VGABIOS.
Perhaps Steve is talking about enabling the device without
such binary-only code, but by directly programming the
(poorly documented) registers with outb()'s, etc.
Of cource I too woul
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, ??? wrote:
> I am afraid they will buy it when they have no or very few choice. When
> the majority of the boards on the market are DRM enabled or most of
> the digital information requires DRM to be accessed, pepole will
> buy these products. I don't know how it is in the U.S
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:48:39AM +0800, ??? elucidated:
>
> I am afraid they will buy it when they have no or very few choice. When
> the majority of the boards on the market are DRM enabled or most of
> the digital information requires DRM to be accessed, pepole will
> buy these products. I do
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:32:04PM -0700, Steve Gehlbach wrote:
> ron minnich wrote:
>
> >as of today, David Hendriks built a BIOS for EPIA with SONE's freebios
> >source tree, and the VGA is working fine. I think there's literally one
> >bit left to find.
Good to hear that.
> I'd love to know
Yeah, that whole via-rhine (Or via_rhine, more like) issue is somewhat
bizarre, but is an issue for another thread :)
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steve Gehlbach wrote:
>
>> Well actually, my beef is about not releasing datasheets. AFAIK we still
>> do not have the direct register VGA working for EPIA-80
ron minnich wrote:
as of today, David Hendriks built a BIOS for EPIA with SONE's freebios
source tree, and the VGA is working fine. I think there's literally one
bit left to find.
I'd love to know which bit; but of course that is typical VGA, one bit
off or 100 bits off, same result, black scre
> >
> > I suspect the Xbox is your clue... MS has had plenty of practice on
encrypting
> > the bios and locking out foreign app sw, and the xboxlinux group has
been the
> > test foil (although in the short run they are on top right now).
>
> Boards don't sell if people won't buy them.
>
I am afra
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steve Gehlbach wrote:
> Well actually, my beef is about not releasing datasheets. AFAIK we still
> do not have the direct register VGA working for EPIA-800, due to some
> hidden enable of some kind or another. And in this case, we have the
> datasheet, so it probably undocu
ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steve Gehlbach wrote:
Cool, love to see the name "Via" in that list someday.
VIA was extremely helpful with the EIPA issues, from what I understand.
Well actually, my beef is about not releasing datasheets. AFAIK we still
do not have the direct register
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steve Gehlbach wrote:
> Cool, love to see the name "Via" in that list someday.
VIA was extremely helpful with the EIPA issues, from what I understand.
We're getting there.
Also, be aware that the much of the world is less than happy with the idea
of any one vendor controll
ron minnich wrote:
OK, it is true, there is an issue.
Consider this, however. There are now several vendors actively supporting
LinuxBIOS: AMD, Tyan, ASUS, and a few I can name in another few days.
There's money in LinuxBIOS.
Market forces are starting to sway our way. So don't worry too much
OK, it is true, there is an issue.
Consider this, however. There are now several vendors actively supporting
LinuxBIOS: AMD, Tyan, ASUS, and a few I can name in another few days.
There's money in LinuxBIOS.
Market forces are starting to sway our way. So don't worry too much.
ron
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Eric W. Biederman wrote:
Steve Gehlbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Vincent Touquet wrote:
Not sure if the Phoenix DRM BIOS fits into this picture.
I suspect the Xbox is your clue... MS has had plenty of practice on encrypting
the bios and locking out foreign app sw, and the xboxlinux group ha
Steve Gehlbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Vincent Touquet wrote:
>
> > Not sure if the Phoenix DRM BIOS fits into this picture.
>
> I suspect the Xbox is your clue... MS has had plenty of practice on encrypting
> the bios and locking out foreign app sw, and the xboxlinux group has been the
>
Vincent Touquet wrote:
Not sure if the Phoenix DRM BIOS fits into this picture.
I suspect the Xbox is your clue... MS has had plenty of practice on
encrypting the bios and locking out foreign app sw, and the xboxlinux
group has been the test foil (although in the short run they are on top
righ
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 08:16:13AM -0700, Dale Harris wrote:
>This isn't exactly on topic, but I thought it was interesting
>nonetheless. So with a mobo that would support this BIOS, could we
>still pop out the Phoenix BIOS and pop in a LinuxBIOS or FreeBIOS?
>http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0
This isn't exactly on topic, but I thought it was interesting
nonetheless. So with a mobo that would support this BIOS, could we
still pop out the Phoenix BIOS and pop in a LinuxBIOS or FreeBIOS?
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1237519,00.asp
BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies said it
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