Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-27 Thread Segher Boessenkool
I agree with Segher. Interesting, since I don't think you do. Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. But let's drop this thread now. Segher -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-27 Thread Corey Osgood
Segher Boessenkool wrote: I agree with Segher. Interesting, since I don't think you do. Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. But let's drop this thread now. Segher I meant in that hard drives are 100% black boxes that I don't really care how work, just that they work. And good idea.

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 04:39:58AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: I wonder about firmware status of CD/DVD Optical disk drives and sound cards. Hard drives have firmware too. I don't expect to see free firmware for any of these devices very soon, but will be glad the day I'm proven wrong. :)

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Segher Boessenkool
I wonder about firmware status of CD/DVD Optical disk drives and sound cards. Hard drives have firmware too. I don't expect to see free firmware for any of these devices very soon, but will be glad the day I'm proven wrong. :) Yeah, I _so_ hope you are or will be wrong :) I don't know of

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:47:37PM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote: Yeah, I _so_ hope you are or will be wrong :) I don't know of any such firmwares at the moment (I didn't search a lot, though). But that would sure be a great thing to have (and support). What good would it do to replace

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Yeah, I _so_ hope you are or will be wrong :) I don't know of any such firmwares at the moment (I didn't search a lot, though). But that would sure be a great thing to have (and support). What good would it do to replace the known-good firmware of a hard drive with something home grown?

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Dave Crossland
On 26/11/06, Ward Vandewege [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On top of that, think DRM. Say LinuxBIOS becomes really successful, and we basically kill EFI (and therefore, DRM in the bios). The next thing they'll try is putting it in video cards, audio cards, hard drives etc. In fact, they tried that

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:05:27PM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote: So, did you get a (small) update from the vendor, or did you pull off the semi-impossible task of rewriting the thing from scratch :-) Sure, we got the vendor patch. But I'm glad we were not the *first* people to run into this

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Recommendations on Fully Free Workstation hardware

2006-11-26 Thread Corey Osgood
Ward Vandewege wrote: On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:05:27PM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote: So, did you get a (small) update from the vendor, or did you pull off the semi-impossible task of rewriting the thing from scratch :-) Sure, we got the vendor patch. But I'm glad we were not