Members of the Lisa List:
One more notice about the move to Google Groups. We'll be closing this
list on Monday, so if you haven't already made the move, here's how.
1. You can subscribe via email. Send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then be sure to respond to the
confirmation emails.
2.
We've already moved half of our email lists to Google groups. Today
we're starting the transition for our three non-Mac Apple-related email
lists: Apple2list, LisaList, and Newtonlist.
If you wish to remain in the group, you must subscribe to the new
Google Groups list. We have no way of export
u.
I appreciate the notes of encouragement, but the posting was
fraudulent. Someone spoofed my return address, and we are investigating.
Dan Knight, List Mom, LEM Lists
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LisaList is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and...
Shop buy.com and save. <http://lowendmac.com/a
updating links in the headers and
footers.
Reminder: Be sure to mention which list(s) you're on when
corresponding. With 30 lists, there's just no way I can dig through
them all looking for your subscription.
Dan the List Mom
--
Dan Knight, president /"\ ASCII Ribbon C
t messages, not to individual
correspondence with list members."
Dan Knight, listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com>
<http://lowendpc.c
st members."
Remember, one warning.
I ask that anyone posting to the list who receives a challenge and
response email forward it to me with "anti-spam" in the subject line.
Thanks!
Dan the listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwe
your subscriptions, responding to warning messages, etc.
Dan the listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com>
<http://lowendpc.com> <
The Mac community has been more than generous in its support of Low End
Mac. In ten days, we have lined up a buyer for our TiBook, have some
promising leads for selling our two 333 MHz Rev. D iMacs, and have
received donations covering over $5,000 of our roughly $6,000 debt load.
For the first
owendmac.net services is one
way you can help that become a reality.
Thanks for your support!
Dan the listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.co
ervention. When action is required, the list mom and
nannies will act in accordance with our Rules of List Management. This
page also defines terms (ban, block, flame, troll, etc.) and lists the
responsibilities of subscribers."
The rules are posted at <http://lowendmac.com/lists/rules.ht
cs for production and *nix servers for our
site and mailing lists.
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com>
<http://lowendpc.com> <htt
opic on our lists. If the question involves a computer covered by the
list, it's almost undoubtedly on topic. This includes getting software
and printers to work. If it involves politics, it's definitely off topic.
Let's try to stick to Macs and the programs we run on them and the
perip
rding) copies of the
following digests to me, I'd really appreciate it.
Any digests from January.
Thanks!
Dan the listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraph
ing styled text or a message with an attachment.
You can only post from a subscribed address, and the server has been
instructed to refuse anything other than plain text email.
Dan the Listmom
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lo
d not intend the email about MacMall, MacZone, etc.
sent to several lists as a conversation starter. It was intended as an
update on our current circumstances since these email lists are
intimately bound to Low End Mac. Please, lets not get into debates about
religion, politics, and free speec
Wooohooo - we finally got to the bottom of this one!
Somehow the [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses had become
subscribed to several of our email lists. I don't know how that could
have happened, since we require confirmation of all subscriptions, but it
did.
The result: Every time someone posted to
any of you can suggest a good hosting service that will
let us sell email addresses at reasonable annual rates, sell online space
to users, etc., I'd be happy to hear more -- please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (If that doesn't work due to SpamCop, try
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
--
Dan
nd all the other stuff
for a few days. Clear my head. Let the nannies handle the lists. Maybe
even find some time to do some programming, photography, reading, etc.
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http:
One of my pet peeves -- and something a lot of you have probably received
a note about -- is people who quote the entire original message right
down through the footer. The header. The ads. Everything.
I go through each digest, scrolling past screen after screen of quoted
material. It's too muc
s job will pay a lot better than retailing cameras.
On the minus, it will take me away from LEM more hours during the week.
With site income where it is, this is a necessary tradeoff.
Another plus: I won't have to work Saturdays. I can have my weekends
back. :-)
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Dan Knight, president
bought through Cafe Press in the past, and
about 10% of the sale price comes back to Low End Mac.
Pop on over to <http://www.cafepress.com/lemstore> to see the vast
selection of t-shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, totes, etc.
--
Dan Knight, president/"\
In response to some recent issues, I've added the following paragraphs to
the list FAQs:
What about anti-spam services?
We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever
filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to
you.
That said, we take a
done, and we will
release it as open source once it's up and running. But until we can
manage things like reading incoming email and sending it out again,
managing subscription requests, etc., we're stuck with the current setup.
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishi
in income from lowendmac.com. I've also got a second half-time job
starting sometime in October, so we need to handle things efficiently.
Also a reminder that we are offering lemlists.com email addresses to list
subscribers for just $5 per year. Details at
<http://lemlists.com/email/i
ime to update the list footers; hope to find the time
this weekend. I will update the published FAQ for all the lists with the
morning site update.
Email sent to the old listmom address should automatically forward to the
new one.
--
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
he PHP imap_open function to open our test mailbox. But
we're working on it
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com>
<http://lowendpc.com>
Maclaunch is aware of the problems we've been having with digests -- but
hasn't heard back from Communigate yet.
Until then, I've adjusted digest size downward on the less busy lists,
from 20 messages max. per digest to 10 or even 5. Hope this gets things
moving again.
7;t already contacted Ryan,
please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not reply to me or to the list. We
hope to have things up and running in a few days.
Dan Knight, listmom, publisher of Low End Mac
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LisaList is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and...
Shop buy.com and save. <http:/
an email to Ryan at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the subject
"lemlists.com".
Whether we go through with mailboxes or not, we will be working with
Coleman Web to set up the Low End Mac List Server in coming days. I'm
guessing this project may take several months of programming and
debuggin
ely voluntary $1 per list per year suggested donation. If sending
funds via PayPal, please reference [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com&g
reserve the right to unceremoniously unsubscribe them without
advance notice when their content filters "quarantine" list messages.
- - -
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Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com>
<http://digital-views.com
like Mac512K, System
6 Heaven, the pickle's Low-end Mac FAQ, etc. I urge all of you to take a
few minutes and share your opinion of the site's your familiar with --
and maybe discover some new ones.
<http://lowendmac.com/botmw/020326.html>
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishin
they are unusual and of special interest to that list, such as the Pina
tomes covering vintage Macs.
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com> <http://lowendpc.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica
direction.
We set up one list to try it, and the person who asked for it reports
that it works just fine. If your email client supports it, this may help
you follow some of the threads, especially on the busier lists.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://co
the air.
Thanks to everyone for emails and prayers.
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com> <http://lowendpc.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com> <http://reformed.net>
I was to lear
y message and digest, and contact me
at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you have problems.
7. We're running the third Best of the Mac Web survey on Low End Mac.
Full details at
<http://lowendmac.com/botmw/020305.html>
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwe
r bearing with us in this stressful situation.
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Dan Knight, president\ / No HTML/RTF in email
Cobweb Publishing, Inc. X No Word docs in email
/ \ Respect Open Standards!
<http://cobwebpublishing.co
anged.
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com> <http://lowendmac.com> <http://lowendpc.com>
<http://digital-views.com> <http://digigraphica.com> <http://reformed.net>
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a n
s for the list manager and who knows how
many other subscribers.
You created the problem. Please fix it.
As for the rest of you, thanks for putting up with my rant. I get a bit
upset when people mess up my mailing lists.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<h
inancial and otherwise, in the
past and hope a lot of you will see this as a way to support Low End Mac
and receive the benefit of faster-loading, ad-free content when visiting
our site.
<http://www.lowendmac.com/subscriptions/index.shtml>
Dan Knight, publisher, Low End Mac
Dan Kni
End Mac
lists. None are too busy, but all are helpful.
For more information -- <http://lowendmac.com/lists/>
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
<http://cobwebpublishing.com/> <http://lowendmac.com/>
<http://digital-views.com/> <http://lowendpc.com/&
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No payment due until product reaches me. Will email full details at that
time. Hope to ship within 24-48 hours of receipt of payment -- via First
Class or Priority Mail whenever possible.
Questions? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do not reply to the list.
Thanks!
Dan Knight
per copy. Cost
for NU 4.0.2 will be under $30 per copy. Postage and handling should be
$2-4 within the States, a buck or two more outside the US.
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low
Zapf Chancery, ITC Zapf Dingbats, Zeal.
SimCity 2000 (a classic!)$9
Shipping & handling unknown at present, but will range from $2 on up
depending on size and weight of package.
Don't reply to the list -- contact me directly if you're interested in
acquiring any
note of this. And if you have the time, please
vent your displeasure at AOL for not following the same system everyone
else uses.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low End PC
t use PayPal
or Amazon to make donations using their credit cards. Links at
<http://lowendmac.com/support.shtml>
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low End PC &
problem, since I am one of hundreds of subscribes
using a mac.com email address. (Well, I was. I'm now using my listmom
address.)
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low End PC <ht
1. mac.com subscribers
If you're using a mac.com email address for these lists like me, you may
not have seen any messages or digests since Thursday. I've checked the
archive -- active lists remain active, but a lot of messages destined for
mac.com addresses have bounce. I've even been unsubscrib
clude two or more nannies on each of the busier
lists.
As always, be excellent to each other.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low End PC <http://lowendpc.com/&g
most recent Digest #1 came out on 1/20/01 -- and we've been numbering
sequentially ever since. ;-)
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low End PC <http://lowe
lls as an editor and publisher to try to
give the huge number of PC users the same kind of resource Mac users have
had for the past four years.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Low E
may be interested know that NetZero seems to
be considering supporting up.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Digital-Views.com <http://digital-views.com/>
publisher,
aster contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
about low cost site hosting or the possibility of moving the domain to
Cobweb Publishing for the sake of posterity.
(do not reply to the list - thanks!)
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowe
In light of the unparalleled situation on Tuesday, I chose to allow some
discussion of the terrorist attacks on these lists. We all needed an
opportunity to process our feelings, and for some people, these lists are
their only forum.
Many of those threads have run their course and some have go
ist is fairly representative of the other lists.
Consider this your occasional reminder from the List Mom to be aware of
how your email program works and be careful to quote selectively when
replying to the list.
Thanks!
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac
you can read it with
your email program, not just via your Web browser.)
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Dan Knight, president\ / No HTML/RTF in email
Cobweb Publishing, Inc. X No Word docs in email
/ \ Respect Open St
the last. Thanks to the two-step subscription
process and Kyle's quick action only one list was subjected to the spam.
Should anything like this happen in the future, please send a note to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" so I can deal with it as expeditiously as
possible.
Thanks!
Dan Kn
Over the weekend we updated out Terms of Use for the site. The following
specifically applies to our email lists and forums:
Those using our email lists and forums may not post any material which
violates or infringes in any way upon the rights of others; which is
unlawful, threatening, abusi
I just put subscribers back on a half-dozen different lists -- all @home
users. This is getting old fast.
I'm also changing the way the list server handles bounces. The way it has
been set, when it is unable to deliver a message due to a full mailbox or
downed server, it temporarily unsubscrib
subscribers seem to be immune, so switching to digest mode may be a
workable alternative to moving to a new email address.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Digital-Views.com <http:
For the past three days, we've been having far more than the usual
problems with @home email addresses. List after list, subscribers with
@home.com email addresses are being dropped because the @home mail server
is reporting that those addresses have failed.
I've been doing the only thing I ca
po/> this week,
including our Best of Show award to a couple new upgrades from Sonnet.
I'm looking forward to getting home Sunday afternoon.
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publisher, Digital-Vi
I updated the Netiquette page this morning to address some recent issues
involving signatures, name calling, vulgarity, perceived threats, and
when it's appropriate to mention an auction on the list. Some of these
are good general netiquette guidelines; others are specific to the Low
End Mac f
I've just updated the footers for each list with the correct URL for the
new archive. From last Thursday onward, everything will be archived.
Dan the listmom
Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
publisher, Low End Mac<http://lowendmac.com/>
publish
each of the lists, so list archives from today
forward will be available there. Once it's all set up, I'll be sure to
update the FAQs and footers for all the lists.
Thanks to Yuri for pointing me to mail-archive.com and to Paul
Dwight-Moore for also offering space for the archives.
Dan
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