Re: apples vs oranges (was Re: computer video (was Re: Free IBM AT))

2006-03-09 Thread Chris M
rather then respond item by item to that barrage of gibberish, moron, remember what prompted your original response - I had said it was unfortunate that Apple didn't build the MACINTOSH with a crt controller. Then you went on to eat up unnecessary bandwidth with a reply that meant next to nothing.

Re: computer video (was Re: Free IBM AT)

2006-03-07 Thread Chris M
let's see if I'm allowed to post to Lisa list today. I don't know about all that. Could an early Mac do this: http://www.oldskool.org/pc/8088_Corruption --- Ray Arachelian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris M wrote: But Apple made a mistake with the Mac by not supplying a distinct video ic,

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-28 Thread Shirl
focused audience, i.e. scientists. I assume IBM used the 68000 CPU for this machine as a research project so it would better understand this CPU's capabilities. - David Craig -- From: Chris M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Free IBM AT Date: Tue

computer video (was Re: Free IBM AT)

2006-02-28 Thread Ray Arachelian
Chris M wrote: But Apple made a mistake with the Mac by not supplying a distinct video ic, allowing the 68k to do all the work, and therefore was lacking in speed. That's not quite true. Both the original Mac and the Lisa shared memory access with the video hardware. The video hardware

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-24 Thread J Worgan
too late and there is no longer a Edison record lable in the current market - only in record museums - as has the Lisa. - Original Message - From: Justaname [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: Re: Free IBM AT My

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-23 Thread Peterson, Wade D.
Looking for a IBM PC Jr, if ya got one. Any tablets, and could use a good Apple Wallstreet laptop battery too. Wade -Original Message- From: LisaList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Rogers Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:04 PM To: LisaList Subject: Re: Free IBM

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-23 Thread Chris M
yeah, especially if you had bough either new. The Lisa was a flop, cost twice as much as an AT (at least), and the AT was a huge success (not knocking Lisa's though - I own one of each :). --- Jerome Vernet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 23 févr. 06, à 18:50, Jason Perkins a écrit : I don't

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-23 Thread sauersr
It's truly a shame that the Lisa wasn't a success. If Apple had had better management, perhaps the company's primary platform would have had protected memory. It would have given Apple more credibility and saved users from a lot of pain. The Lisa's failure in the market doesn't diminish the

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-23 Thread Chris M
Im sure some of those stories would prove very interesting. How about publishing memoirs ;)? What could be said, and this will seem in stark contrast to my prior rambling, is that the AT was THE machine for its time. The Lisa was the machine for ANOTHER time. No doubt some of its features were

Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-23 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 24 févr. 06, à 03:44, Justaname a écrit : My opinion as an Apple employee at the time (79 to 86 in MIS) supports your opinion. It was just plain hubris that John Couch's team thought they knew what people needed (not what they wanted). I just don't have the energy to regale the list