Re: [Membership] Re: [IFWP] Is Nesson right on the objective? And, how do we reach it?

1999-02-14 Thread Mark R. Measday
What would not constitute capture by these criteria for some group or other? Capture is therefore a meaningless way of saying that 'they' have it and 'we' haven't. But the essence of the purportedly democratic structure here is that this kind of alternance between 'we' and 'they' take place. There

[IFWP] Fora

1999-02-16 Thread Mark R. Measday
To simplify matters, and to accommodate those who wish to have foreign language input on the IFWP list, would it be fair to approximate this to 'quis custodes ipsos custodiet?'. A question which has never been rigorously or logically answered in any domain of human affairs? And, consequently, for

[IFWP] [Fwd: [Membership] Density Representation]

1999-02-17 Thread Mark R. Measday
Message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. "Mark R. Measday" wrote: > To what degree would this replicate or negate the power of governments in > the Governmental Advisory Section? > > Legal complexities aside, might it not be slightly embarrassing if > identified g

Re: [IFWP] Market Structure Failure or failure to perceive self-interest correctly?

1999-02-20 Thread Mark R. Measday
Mr Fenello brings up in his analysis excellent points in support of the trademark community. However, and if I may speak, using Mr Fenello's hopefully uncopyrighted trademark phrase, respectfully; if human relations were composed of a series of protective property rights alone preventing innovati

Re: [IFWP] Market Structure Failure

1999-02-23 Thread Mark R. Measday
For purposes of comparison, what other technologies have been deemed illegal recently? Or is it just the use of the technology for specific purposes? Diane Cabell wrote: > Milton Mueller wrote: > > > Kent Crispin wrote: > > () > > > are > > > we changing the caching mechanism? > > > > Take a

Re: [IFWP] Latest on the Australian censorship

1999-08-31 Thread Mark R Measday
One of the questions to which I didn't get an answer in Chile was what constitutes a quorum of interest sufficient for ICANN to accept GAC's advice. If GAC is the voice of thirty or forty governments, it is presumably not the voice of the other 160 plus. Is ICANN supposed to consult the others pri

Re: [IFWP] GAC: mandatory or advisory advice?

1999-08-31 Thread Mark R Measday
Joe, I think the majority of participants on this list would have no respect for Mr Rutkowski were he not known to be acting intelligently as devil's advocate. Whether ICANN is or will be formally or informally required to follow GAC advice, I assume is a matter for private consultation between

[IFWP] ICANN/GAC quorum/funding questions

1999-08-31 Thread Mark R Measday
The following email was sent to you misleadingly carrying the title used by the previous correspondent. Apologies. One of the questions to which I didn't get an answer in Chile was what constitutes a quorum of interest sufficient for ICANN to accept GAC's advice. If GAC is the voice of thirty or

Re: [IFWP]

1999-08-31 Thread Mark R Measday
Roberto, It is unclear to me whether you are speaking in an advisory capacity for the governments or in a private capacity interpreting the ICANN bylaws. BTW, how are Vienna and the reactors? MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mark, > > You wrote: > > > > One of the questions to which I didn't get

Re: [IFWP] small correction

1999-09-01 Thread Mark R Measday
he private sector (i.e. you) to pay directly for an administration that otherwise would be buried in international accounting conventions somewhere. Why should I know anything of IBM's interest? They're my ISP. Cheers MM "J. Baptista" wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Mar

Re: [IFWP] GAC: mandatory or advisory advice?

1999-09-06 Thread Mark R Measday
hat any national government is free to participate in the GAC; if they choose not to, that is their choice, not ICANN's or the GAC's.    (Embedded  image moved   Mark R Measday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  to file:  08/31/99 11:46 AM  pic07642.pcx)   Extension: To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:

Re: [IFWP] Free the ITU Final Acts

1999-09-19 Thread Mark R Measday
Is Bob Shaw writing the report, then? "A.M. Rutkowski" wrote: > If you want to get your free copy of the Final Acts of the > ITU Plenipotentiary Conference, it's available temporarily > at: http://www.itu.int/itudoc/gs/test/57570.html Click > on download. After that, there will always be a fr

Re: [IFWP] ISPs boycott the ITU

1999-10-19 Thread Mark R Measday
Tony, Your comment reminds me of an allied, but separate matter. In a recent ITU report on internet development, one of the largely implicit assumptions was the supposition that the internet pricing model is largely parasitic on historic telco investment and spare capacity -despite the technical

[IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference in Seattle next month

1999-11-22 Thread Mark R Measday
Is is possible to know what representations ICANN has made, or which observers have been sent by ICANN to the WTO conference in Seattle next month? MM begin:vcard n:Measday;Mark tel;cell:0044370947420 tel;fax:0033450209492 tel;work:0033450209492 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.josmarian.ch

Re: [IFWP] More on the WTO

1999-11-22 Thread Mark R Measday
Time to export some of your antitrust laws, then. But I think Joe Sims just unsubscribed from this list Best, MM Jay Fenello wrote: > Excerpt from: > > http://www.thenation.com/issue/991206/1206borosage.shtml > > The global economy that the WTO is now intended to police has worked > remark

Re: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference in Seattle nextmonth

1999-11-22 Thread Mark R Measday
> > Esther Dyson > > At 04:40 pm 11/22/1999 +0100, Mark R Measday wrote: > >Is is possible to know what representations ICANN has made, or which > >observers have been sent by ICANN to the WTO conference in Seattle next > >month? > > > >MM > >Content-

Re: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference in Seattle next month

1999-11-23 Thread Mark R Measday
What was the reaction to this suggestion? James Love wrote: > Funny you should say this. I was just at a Department of State briefing > on information policy last week, and when discussing a the need for new > global rules on consumer protection, Don Heath suggested ICANN as a > model, where NG

Re: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference in Seattle next month

1999-11-23 Thread Mark R Measday
Michael, Not quite sure who are you are pointing your finger at. Gentlemen such as Mr Sweeney and yourself are entitled to your views. However, it might be apposite to point out that the transition of the GATT to WTO took place at least with the blessing of, one might argue at the behest of, g

Re: [IFWP] Esther Dyson's reply

1999-11-29 Thread Mark R Measday
Joop, it's not fair to quote out of context. I appreciate your arguments, but this was originally in response to a thread concerning the WTO and ICANN's engagement with that organization. Esther Dyson was commenting on the mess the WTO is, I think, not making statements concerning theoretical glob

Re: [IFWP] Article: WTO + SDMI = NWO (New World Order)--And That Spells Trouble

1999-12-01 Thread Mark R Measday
re: WTO + SDMI = NWO (NEW WORLD ORDER)--AND THAT SPELLS TROUBLE by Andy Oram    American Reporter Correspondent CAMBRIDGE, MASS.--WTO, IMF, EU: has one of these changed your life recently? How about SDMI, PICS, or CALEA? This list wasn't intended for b

Re: [IFWP] Article: WTO + SDMI = NWO (New World Order)--And ThatSpells Trouble

1999-12-01 Thread Mark R Measday
Excellent article. Haven't read the book, so any summary is conceptual.. I wanted to make the point that of the actors I have seen, the only institutional involvement I have seen that has gone beyond the assertion of self-interest model in trying to create ICANN is that of Berkman. For that they d