Thank you, Jay, for this historic reference, now timely
as we witness lives and careers being ripped apart in
the haste to cash in, to become a DNS claims office in
the cyberspace land rush once new TLDs are ready for
registration. Blind greed. The warfare breaks my heart.
-- ken
Ken Freed
Media
Tony Rutkowski wrote:
> The "USG" is actually far more complex than just
> a couple of staff in Executive Branch agencies. :-)
>
>
True.
I tried to say the same thing last year: USG is not just one staff in an
Executive Branch agency.
Why should the people in charge now be less authoritative th
At 05:44 PM 6/4/99 -0400, Richard J. Sexton wrote:
> >Only through considerable pressure have people like Rutkowski and Fenello
> >finally acknowledged their affiliation to NSI -- while simultaneously ly
> >claiming that taking money from NSI doesn't affect their opinion. How many
> >others have
>Only through considerable pressure have people like Rutkowski and Fenello
>finally acknowledged their affiliation to NSI -- while simultaneously ly
>claiming that taking money from NSI doesn't affect their opinion. How many
>others have not?
Good point. I don't recall Jon Postel ever mention
laughlet me assuage your sly, inneundo-slickened, conspiratorial mind
by saying as I have said before that the only payment i recive from NSI is
the annual subscription fee for my newsletter.
I have heard it said of Tony R that he wouild hold the same opinion of NSI
no matter whether he were
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> Cc: Ken Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar
>
> >Tell me Ken, Since CORE is a foreign corporation and you are clearly an
> >agent acting on its behalf have you registed w
i turned
>55.
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>- Original Message -
>From: Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: Ken Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 3:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar
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>>Tell me Ken,
At 03:01 PM 6/4/99 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote:
>Tell me Ken, Since CORE is a foreign corporation and you are clearly an
>agent acting on its behalf have you registed with US DOJ under the Foreign
>Agents Registration Act?
Gordon, it's really strange that you are so interested in this procedural
ubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar
>Tell me Ken, Since CORE is a foreign corporation and you are clearly an
>agent acting on its behalf have you registed with US DOJ under the Foreign
>Agents Registration Act?
>
&
> >No, we would have had ONE gTLD registry, and lots of registrars. Hardly
> >fair competition. The IAHC was a power grab, well put down.
>
> The likelihood of multiple registries changed dramatically over the course
> of debate, back then. Apparently you missed it.
Didn't miss it at all. It had
At 11:10 AM 6/4/99 -0700, Christopher Ambler wrote:
> > Had Magaziner not thrown own the Interagency Task Force report -- which
> > supported the IAHC -- and written the micro-management approach in the
> > original green Paper, IANA would have evolved on its own initiative and we
> > would, by no
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><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 8:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar
>
>
>>You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was
>>planned from
> Had Magaziner not thrown own the Interagency Task Force report -- which
> supported the IAHC -- and written the micro-management approach in the
> original green Paper, IANA would have evolved on its own initiative and we
> would, by now, have more gTLD registries.
No, we would have had ONE gTL
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Gordon Cook wrote:
> You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was
> planned from the earliest stages of ICANN as a body of gov't types who
> could use the ICANN shell and the built in mutability of the ICANN by laws
> to rule the internet through IC
At 10:06 AM 6/4/99 -0400, A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
>At 09:13 AM 6/4/99 , Roberto wrote:
>>I have the feeling that USG is getting more worried on how best to deal with
>
>The "USG" is actually far more complex than just
>a couple of staff in Executive Branch agencies. :-)
One of those two Executive B
>Magaziner and Lessig's comments, as well as Paul Twomey's comments at the
>Berlin GAC forum on the suject of what ICANN's successor would be if it were
>to fail, suggest that few on this list other than Ms. Hauben would consider
>the likely result of such a review to be an improvement.
>
well b
At 09:13 AM 6/4/99 , Roberto wrote:
Do you *really* think that USG should now try
to redo everything from
scratch once again?
I have the feeling that USG is getting more worried on how best to deal
with
The "USG" is actually far more complex than just
a couple of staff in Executive Branch agenci
>; Esther Dyson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mike Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar
>You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was
>
Jay and all,
Agreed with your conclusion. It is indeed time to review again...
Jay Fenello wrote:
> >From the archives:
>
> =
>
> http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009
>
> Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan
> (06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET)
> By Mo
Magaziner and Lessig's comments, as well as Paul Twomey's comments at the
Berlin GAC forum on the suject of what ICANN's successor would be if it were
to fail, suggest that few on this list other than Ms. Hauben would consider
the likely result of such a review to be an improvement.
Jay Fenello
You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was
planned from the earliest stages of ICANN as a body of gov't types who
could use the ICANN shell and the built in mutability of the ICANN by laws
to rule the internet through ICANN from behind the scenes. Magaziner,
Cerf, Ro
Jay and all,
Jay, you are far to gracious with respect to Esther Dyson. I just
finished reading her latest book. It is the most disjointed thing
I believe I have ever read in recent times. It is evident that Esther Dyson
doesn't practice what she preaches. Her propensity of being disingenuo
Roberto and all,
You make and good point here. However to my knowledge and according
the NTIA web pages, there has been NO announcement of a complete
review process of the ICANN process to date. Hence, I can only
logically conclude that that your assertion here is unfounded as it is
without a
Jay Fenello reported:
> >From the archives:
>
> =
>
>
> http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009
>
> Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan
> (06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET)
> By Mo Krochmal, TechWeb
>
> NEW YORK -- Ira Magaziner, the Clinton administrati
Dave,
What would not be bizarre, then?
I would hesitantly suggest only those brave enough to believe in absolute human
freedoms, free-wills untouched by history or outside influence can posit the
structures you are suggesting.
Good academic, analytic, marxists like Prof. Lessig and Mr. Magazine
At 01:42 AM 6/4/99 , Dave Crocker wrote:
>At 01:15 AM 6/4/99 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
>>
>>http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009
>>
>>Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan
>>(06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET)
>>By Mo Krochmal, TechWeb
>>
>>NEW YORK -- Ira Magaziner, the
At 01:15 AM 6/4/99 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
>"This is bizarre for a democracy," said Lessig. "Why not just carve up the
what is even MORE bizarre is to impose a U.S. model on a global service.
d/
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Dave Crocker
>From the archives:
=
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009
Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan
(06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET)
By Mo Krochmal, TechWeb
NEW YORK -- Ira Magaziner, the Clinton administration's point person on
technology, said Wednesd
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