RE: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Patrick Greenwell > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 9:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?! > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Ellen Rony wro

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Mikki Barry
>Mikki Barry wrote: > >> Constituencies need to >>be inclusive rather than exclusive. Individuals AND organizations need to >>have voices and votes. If ICANN is going to be a coherrent and harmonious >>structure, there has to be more enfranchisement of dissenting opinions, >>true incorporation o

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Patrick Greenwell
On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Ellen Rony wrote: > My prediction is that the constituencies will not be inclusive (e.g., > individuals denied in one case, non IP interests in another) My prediction is that this bloated, byzantine "seperate constituency for everything and everyone under the sun" model wil

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Ellen Rony
Mikki Barry wrote: > Constituencies need to >be inclusive rather than exclusive. Individuals AND organizations need to >have voices and votes. If ICANN is going to be a coherrent and harmonious >structure, there has to be more enfranchisement of dissenting opinions, >true incorporation of those

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Ken Freed
I agree that regulating content (censorship) isn't the job of ICANN or the more openly democratic bodies that (I hope) will emerge down the road. As for spam, however, I would support a global ban on all email with false or misleading addresses, plus a global rule for fast removal on-demand from t

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Mikki Barry
Jay wrote: >For the most part, I agree with Tamar: > "The Internet also must have a structure. The structure > requires some governance--central authority to establish > the rules of the game. The important decision is where to > draw the line, and avoid standards that are not necessary >

The need for worldwide regulators? (was Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!)

1999-04-13 Thread Carl Oppedahl
At 04:35 AM 4/13/99 , Esther Dyson wrote: >I think the notion of any worldwide body regulating spam or porn or content, >which should be regulated within commmunities, is scary. These are not >issues that need to be decided on a worldwide basis. I agree. But why should domain names be any diff

question for Esther Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Gordon Cook
Esther is of course absolutely right. But Esther is ICANN has no wish to extend the bounds of its authority outside of the IANA duties why are we seeing the ICANN by laws written by sims in such a fashion as to allow the bnoard to establish new supporting organizations? >I think the notion of

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Jeff Williams
Tamar and all, It is surely clear that Governance can be a problem solving mechanism, however as history has shown us, and is especially true in the Internet media, Governance is not efficient as this process itself has shown. None the less some form of inclusive Governance is needed for the I

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Tamar Frankel
Governance can be viewed as an efficient mechanism for problem solving. If spam is a problem for so many parties that a combined effort avoids duplication and makes the solution less expensive, then a "governance" or "self-governance" mechanism is likely to arise. Whether it will be world-wide dep

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Mark Measday
Surely it is the economic liberalism fostered by internet trade in commerce, ideas and content that means that either the question has to be answered by global regulation or by some 'unseen hand'. There was a test conference on racism on the internet sponsored by UNHCHR in mid-1997 at which th

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Jeff Williams
Esther, Jay and all, As has been noted by literly scores of stakeholders to date, and are a matter of record in your own ICANN archives, many are of the opinion that the ICANN Interim Board, yes that includes YOU Esther, are acting in a quite concerning manner, most especially in respect to the

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread John M. Brown
I would agree here. I for one do not think ICANN should be creating policy on content, be it SPAM, port or anything else. that is something that should be left up to each country. I would also state that as an ISP, I do not want to be Net.Police. Esther, I hope you will keep this from being