Re: We need to go the other direction

1999-02-04 Thread Karl Auerbach
> At 07:15 AM 2/4/99 -0600, Eric Weisberg wrote: > >We have already reached consensus on the need for "open and > >transparent" processes (we were UNANIMOUS on this at Reston), and > > Eric, those terms are both important and imprecise. > > The IETF has, perhaps, the most successful and widely

Re: We need to go the other direction

1999-02-04 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 09:32 PM 2/4/99 +0800, Dave Crocker wrote: >At 07:15 AM 2/4/99 -0600, Eric Weisberg wrote: >>We have already reached consensus on the need for "open and >>transparent" processes (we were UNANIMOUS on this at Reston), and > >Eric, those terms are both important and imprecise. > >The IETF has, pe

Re: We need to go the other direction

1999-02-04 Thread Dave Crocker
At 07:15 AM 2/4/99 -0600, Eric Weisberg wrote: >We have already reached consensus on the need for "open and >transparent" processes (we were UNANIMOUS on this at Reston), and Eric, those terms are both important and imprecise. The IETF has, perhaps, the most successful and widely accepted large-

We need to go the other direction

1999-02-04 Thread Eric Weisberg
Dave Crocker wrote: > > IETF and IAB have closed decision-making meetings. > > These are by no means the only groups that behave in this fashion AND have > plenty of community support, but I thought the irony of being able to cite > them in this context would be appealing. > I do not think th