[WSG] Reccomended Accessible Websites

2006-06-29 Thread Jason Bayly
Hi All   I’m championing accessible site design here in our office and have a couple of jobs coming up with priority one W3C compliancy as a requirement. Can anyone suggest any sites out there that are best examples of accessible site design? Something professionally designed that caters

Re: [WSG] Can it be done?

2006-06-29 Thread Nick Cowie
You can make your flash object fluid by providing a % width via CSS. Unfortunately it does have one problem, you need to provide the flash object with both a width and height to keep it proportional.However it is not impossible, go to my blog, a couple of posts  http://nickcowie.com/2006/the-fluid

Re: [WSG] It's probably obvious, but ...

2006-06-29 Thread Ross Bruniges
I think the default indent is a bit more than 5px - give 20px or even 30px a try and it should start looking a bit more normal - Original Message From: Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" Sent: Thursday, 29 June, 2006 6:37:42 AM Subject: [WSG] It's pro

Re: [WSG] Reccomended Accessible Websites

2006-06-29 Thread Nick Cowie
Jason asked: I'm championing accessible site design here in our office and have a couple of jobs coming up with priority one W3C compliancy as a requirement. Can anyone suggest any sites out there that are best examples of accessible site design? Something professionally designed that caters to all

RE: [WSG] Reccomended Accessible Websites

2006-06-29 Thread Steve Green
Take a look at the Accessites website - www.accessites.org. There is a showcase of good-looking, highly accessible sites that all validate to XHTML Strict.   Steve GreenDirectorTest Partners Ltd / First Accessibilitywww.testpartners.co.ukwww.accessibility.co.uk   From: listdad@webstandardsg

[WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
http://www.designbyatfb.com/temp-images/didge/didge2.htm   Been looking at this page for someone. Have gotten everything to work and display correctly in FF, IE, Netscape and Mozilla, however in Opera the Left Nav is not showing. I cannot for the life of me figure out why.   Any ideas?   than

[WSG] Rendering problem with Opera

2006-06-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
I remember there was an issue with how Opera rendered something. I as I recall, it may have had to do with floats and width, though I forget the details. The interesting thing was that Opera's interpretation of the CSS was technically valid, but just different than that other browsers. So, two

RE: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread Mithil Yadav
Hi Sharron,   I downloaded your page and in the CSS made a few changes. The changes are as follows;   #content { POSITION: static; }   After doing the change I tested it in Opera 9, IE 6, FF and Netscape 8.1 it works fine. Please review it and let me know if the suggestion is perfect.  

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread David Storey
I think you may have hit a bug in Opera 8 as it works for me in Opera 9. It seems to be there, just not showing the content. If you still want it to work in Opera 8 then contact me off list and I'll look through the code to see what is going wrong. Changing the navbar css from position:

[WSG] Rob Griffin is out of the office.

2006-06-29 Thread rob . griffin
I will be out of the office starting 06/29/2006 and will not return until 07/04/2006. Im traveling and out of the office Thursday and Friday June 29th and 30th, but will be checking voice and email. Monday and Tuesday our offices are closed for the 4th. Ill be back in the office on Wednesday J

[WSG CMS] CMS Suggestions for Evaluation

2006-06-29 Thread Martin Heiden
Hi! We are looking for a XML based enterprise CMS written in JAVA. Has anybody an idea, which systems are worth evaluating? Open Source is fine, but commercial products are preferred. (Support...) We may take a look at: Apache Lenya (Open Source) EMC Documentum and Vyre Unify.

[WSG CMS] Jacqui Legge/VicRoads is out of the office.

2006-06-29 Thread Jacqui . Legge
I will be out of the office starting 26/06/2006 and will not return until 10/07/2006. I am currently away on annual leave. If you have a query about Dot or the content management system, please contact Katy Harding on x 1970 or Grant Chan on x 2665. If you need to speak to me urgently, you can

Re: [WSG CMS] CMS Suggestions for Evaluation

2006-06-29 Thread Christian Peper
Martin Heiden wrote: > Hi! > > We are looking for a XML based enterprise CMS written in JAVA. Has > anybody an idea, which systems are worth evaluating? Don't know any off the top of my head, but why don't you have a look at opensourcecms.com? They have plenty of installed demo systems to pla

Re: [WSG CMS] CMS Suggestions for Evaluation

2006-06-29 Thread Janos Hardi
Hi Martin, I recommend you the LifeRay portal: http://www.liferay.com/web/guest/home - they offer enterprise support as well: http://www.liferay.com/web/guest/support/enterprise Janos On 6/29/06, Christian Peper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Heiden wrote: > Hi! > > We are looking for a X

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
Thanks David, this in not my site page. But one I was trying to fix for someone. It was a template of sorts with lots of "fixes" it only worked in IE. My Version of Opera is 8.02. I don't see the left Nav at all at 1024 x 768. The page is supposed to be centered on the page. I am no expert.

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
Actually, apparently I have two versions on Opera. 8.2 when I open it from the desk top, 7.20 if opened and used to preview html documents from within Topstyle pro. So my non working left nav is not working in version 7.2 I will have to check in 8. Sharron - Original Message - Fro

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
Thanks Mithil, that did the trick! I've never used that before..off to tell the owner of the page how smart this list is! - Original Message - From: Mithil Yadav To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:32 AM S

Re: [WSG] Reccomended Accessible Websites

2006-06-29 Thread Jon Gunderson
Nick,Here are few websites at the University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign:http://www.oar.uiuc.edu/http://www.careercenter.uiuc.edu/ http://www.rst.uiuc.edu/There are based on the CITES/DRESC best practice technqies for implementation of Section 508 and W3C WCAG requirements. http://html.cita.uiu

Re: [WSG] It's probably obvious, but ...

2006-06-29 Thread Christian Montoya
On 6/29/06, Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my stylesheet I start off with "* {margin:0; padding:0;}" and then put margin and padding back in as required. I also start of with 'list-style-type: none' for ul ol. I can't seem to make an ordered list I want to be there, indent. I'

Re: [WSG] Reccomended Accessible Websites

2006-06-29 Thread John S. Britsios
Jason, maybe you can have a look at my web site too: http://www.webnauts.net Who know's. At least I did almost my best so far. Best, John -- John S. Britsios Web Architect & Marketing Consultant Webnauts Net (Main Office) Koblenzer Str. 37A D-33613 Bielefeld Webnauts Net (U.S. Office) 5 Iva

[WSG] Our site and accessites awards

2006-06-29 Thread John S. Britsios
We are striving to meet the W3C/WAI Priority 3 requirements for our web site, and we are also planning to submit our web site at the accessites.org awards soon. We are trying to meet the requirements of the "Accessites.org Timeless Universal Design Award", so I would like to ask here if you can

[WSG] Embedded table hierarchy

2006-06-29 Thread Darren West
Hello all,I am building a table with a heirarchy where (for example) I have super heros and their respective arch enemies in one table but I am stuck with how to define a relationship between them, I have started what I 'think' isn't the correct way below and I'm not even sure if what I want to do

Re: [WSG] Embedded table hierarchy

2006-06-29 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 6/29/06, Darren West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am building a table with a heirarchy where (for example) I have super heros and their respective arch enemies in one table but I am stuck with how to define a relationship between them, I have started what I 'think' isn't the correct way below an

Re: [WSG] Centering forms

2006-06-29 Thread Jorge Laranjo
Try to change the CSS line that is > * { > margin: 0px; > padding: 0px; > } To comment to see what goes on. On 20/06/2006 12:53 pm, "Javier Leyba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all > > I've the following form: > > --- > > > > ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded"> >

Re: [WSG] Our site and accessites awards

2006-06-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
John S. Britsios wrote: > We are trying to meet the requirements of the "Accessites.org Timeless > Universal Design Award", so I would > like to ask here if you can see something we possibly missed on our > web site http://www.webnauts.net to be qualified for it. John, Did you go through the check

[WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Kat
Gday, This may be a persnickety question: Can you claim WCAG 1.0 AAA rating if your preferred stylesheet doesn't have sufficient color contrast for low-vision users but instead you have a stylesheet switcher and properly marked up alternate style sheets that do? The catch is that MIE does

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Kat wrote: Can you claim WCAG 1.0 AAA rating I would already argue that, taking WCAG by the letter, it's almost impossible to ever claim full-on AAA. Take for instance "11.3 Provide information so that users may receive documents according to their preferences (e.g., language, content type

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Ben Buchanan
Take for instance "11.3 Provide information so that users may receive documents according to their preferences (e.g., language, content type, etc.)" This can practically never be fully complied with, I'd argue. Well it's certainly possible, but as you say the practicalities mean it pretty much d

Re: [WSG] It's probably obvious, but ...

2006-06-29 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Thanks for all the suggestions (and the link to initial.css Christian). But - the indent issue is still the same - ie not happening!! Margin-left just makes the overall margin indent. It doesn't make the actual text in the li line up when it goes onto 2 lines. The 2nd line still goes underneath t

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Ben Buchanan wrote: I think the spirit of that item would probably be more practically addressed by avoiding the "nothin' but PDF" syndrome :) But what if I preferred my documents sent as PDFs? ;) P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.):

RE: [WSG] It's probably obvious, but ...

2006-06-29 Thread Rachel May
Hi Susie, Have you played around with the list-style-position inside/outside? If it is outside, then it should line up correctly? IE is fiddly with the position stuff... Rach :) -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susie Gardner

Re: [WSG] It's probably obvious, but ...

2006-06-29 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Oh - thank you so much Rach. I've never really understood the postion inside/outside stuff. I had them as 'inside' because when they were 'outside' they were too far to the left!! So now I've changed that and increased the lefthand margin it's looking fine! Something else learnt!! Thank you again

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/29 19:25 (GMT-0400) Kat apparently typed: > This may be a persnickety question: > Can you claim WCAG 1.0 AAA rating if your preferred stylesheet doesn't > have sufficient color contrast for low-vision users but instead you have > a stylesheet switcher and properly marked up alternat

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: Why do you find it necessary to have it in reduced accessibility mode by default? Why not make the alternate stylesheet reduce the contrast? I'll hazard a guess and say: real-world requirements imposed by marketing and branding? P -- Patrick H. Lauke _

Re: [WSG] Centering forms

2006-06-29 Thread Nick Cowie
From a quick look at the code:It has to do with the float: left; on input and label elements. (it is to do with floated block elements and non-floated parents)I would say the 1px margin around #contorno is actually only a single line. The quick fix is add another div to contain #contorno, lets call

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Kat wrote: >> Can you claim WCAG 1.0 AAA rating if >> your preferred stylesheet doesn't >> have sufficient color contrast for >> low-vision users but instead you have >> a stylesheet switcher and properly >> marked up alternate style sheets >> that do? Felix wrote: > Why do you find it necessary

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-29 Thread Ben Buchanan
Can you claim WCAG 1.0 AAA rating if your preferred stylesheet doesn't have sufficient color contrast for low-vision users but instead you have a stylesheet switcher and properly marked up alternate style sheets that do? I'd look at the practicality of the situation here. If someone with a co

[WSG] Access Keys and large sites

2006-06-29 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Title: Access Keys and large sites Hello All – I’m pretty new to the whole accessibility thing but I’m trying. The latest question mark that arose in my mind regards to access keys: since there’s only 10 numeric keys (including “0”) what does one do if you’re building a site that exceeds 10

Re: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites

2006-06-29 Thread Ben Buchanan
The latest question mark that arose in my mind regards to access keys: since there's only 10 numeric keys (including "0") what does one do if you're building a site that exceeds 10 pages? The one I'm working on now looks like it's going to top-out at over 50 pages with some sections containing 2 d