liorean wrote:
How is an element any more accessible (theoretically of course,
considering how bad the support situation for generated content and
styling of pseudo elements is) than a pseudo element?
The question half answers itself - one is real, the other pseudo (Def:
being apparently
Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
...
But if there is a problem with these ephemeral and hard-to-define
elements, standardistas should use their sense of order and clear
markup to help integrate these elements - attempting to remove them
is futile, if anything it'll just result in them being used or
Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
Thats my point: there must be the reason for such separation and I
don't think that Horizontal Rule be it visual or aural.
Yet if you insert a visual separator into your document, there *is* a
reason. There are as many reasons *for* doing this as for *not doing*
Rob Kirton wrote:
We now get down to usability issues for
adaptive technology instead of the boring old accessibility ones,
that every body should know about. Would a screen reader user
prefer to have it read out that there was a horizontal line (if they
even have the concept what that
Steve Green wrote:
The use of hidden headings for navigation is of benefit to anyone
whose user agent does not support CSS, not just screen reader users.
We are seeing an increasing number of sites built that way and there
isn't a downside that I can think of so perhaps it should become
Steve Green wrote:
John,
I would agree that there is little or no value in providing a heading
for a single list. However, we often work on sites that have
thousands of pages, that have at least two levels of navigation menus
and sometimes three. There are often other lists at the top of
Katrina wrote:
Barney Carroll wrote:
I was recently told by an automated accessibility test that my
navigation was not up to scratch because it simply consisted of a
plain ul at its highest level. It penalised me for not having a
preceding heading to give some kind of indication of what the
Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net) wrote:
Hi Ruairi ,
well my advice is that you should add a few colors in there, you see
in NYT site that the down panel is in #F4F4F4 , but on your site it's
just plain white, and makes it a bit usual, so play with some color
in
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
logo is just logo, and has relevance only for sighted users.
I have been away from this list for a while now... When did it stop being a
web standards forum and become instead a web opinion forum?
Mihael, what supporting evidence do you have for this claim? While a
