Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS wiki images broken

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
install that as that is like updates to the virus db and spyware db for security essentials. Have you tried scanning with another anti virus as it could be a false positive. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:57 PM, giakk...@hotmail.it wrote: > The update manager shows me one Microsoft Security Essentia

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think and this is just a suggestion, but if and when you have this compiled for mac I think it should be released as a beta at this point with the goal to get other things such as OpulenZ working for 1.1 or even before that. We need to make sure to keep version numbers the same across all platfor

Re: [LMMS-devel] AFP loop points

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Vesa, I'll get to the artwork next week. If you end up ahead of me and already start arranging knobs and buttons before the artwork gets updated, just send me a screenshot. :) -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com --

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Toby, Thanks kindly. 77%: I'm guessing this next message suggests the OpulenZ code has some compatibility issues with clang as well: Linking CXX shared module libOPL2.so > Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: >"_OPL_CALC_CH", referenced from: > _YM3812UpdateOne in fmopl.o >

[LMMS-devel] AFP loop points

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
As previously planned, I'm starting my work to implement better looping in AFP (that is to say: actual loop points, in addition to sample start and end, so that you can have a beginning part, a loop part, and a release part). This also means that instead of loops being off/on, there will be three m

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
On 03/26/2014 02:49 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: Quoting Tres Finocchiaro : I noticed 1.0 dumping core on exit, is that what you're talking about? Yes. Had the same behavior with a self-built 1.0, too. I didn't recall this behavior, but I would have to rebuild/retest to know for sure. OK, t

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Quoting Tres Finocchiaro : >> >> I noticed 1.0 dumping core on exit, is that what you're talking about? >> > Yes. > > >> Had the same behavior with a self-built 1.0, too. > > I didn't recall this behavior, but I would have to rebuild/retest to know > for sure. OK, turns out I've for some reason m

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 08:50 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: I... think you're possibly misunderstanding something. Correct.  Please disregard that comment, I thought you

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Israel, I'm sorry, but what exactly do you need testing? (should I install something?) -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Israel wrote: > On 03/26/2014 12:05 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: > > Quoting Tres Finocchiaro : > >> Some notes: > >> 3. The 12.04 core dump

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > I... think you're possibly misunderstanding something. > Correct. Please disregard that comment, I thought you were suggesting something like this... [image: Inline image 1] A couple more pixels of horizontal space isn't a big deal. This statement is based the size of the existing LED grap

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
You could have an option in that tools menu that says Fx ->1 2 3 etc... For a quick solution. And have a More option once it gets past something large (12? maybe 20?) I suppose finding out how may FX people usually use. I think that would be fairly easy... but adding

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
On 03/26/2014 12:05 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: > Quoting Tres Finocchiaro : >> Some notes: >> 3. The 12.04 core dump/error report still exists for this build > I noticed 1.0 dumping core on exit, is that what you're talking about? > Had the same behavior with a self-built 1.0, too. > So this is a bu

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 07:13 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: > Maybe put the fx channel selection in the tool menu, along with the > "delete track" function and whatever? That would kind of defeat the point. The point is to have it easily & quickly accessible, not having to click through subwindows or context

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 06:32 PM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > Great! I think this would take a few minutes of clicking for every track! > Would be good to have a switch for this in the Preferences window (so > those who want so save some screen space, can hide these controls). We already have the switch for "com

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 07:09 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > I don't want to be the naysayer here, but I do have two issues with > this approach > > 1. Uses even more valuable real-estate from the song editor Everyone uses widescreens these days. A couple more pixels of horizontal space isn't a big deal. We

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > @tres that is where you are wrong apple's aac format is their way of > calling it mp4 > AAC is a particular type of MPEG-4 audio. Yo used the generic term "MP4", the file extension commonly used for video + audio. I believe M4A is wh

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Maybe put the fx channel selection in the tool menu, along with the "delete track" function and whatever? Another thing to consider could be dropping the tool button and moving that menu (with "rename track" as a context menu to the track name? Quoting Tobiasz Karon : > Great! I think this w

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > I noticed 1.0 dumping core on exit, is that what you're talking about? > Yes. > Had the same behavior with a self-built 1.0, too. I didn't recall this behavior, but I would have to rebuild/retest to know for sure. -Tres ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I don't want to be the naysayer here, but I do have two issues with this approach 1. Uses even more valuable real-estate from the song editor 2. Is not particularly useful for a BB Editor pattern that uses more than one style instrument. It would be nice to raise the volume of an entire BB patt

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Quoting Tres Finocchiaro : > Some notes: > 3. The 12.04 core dump/error report still exists for this build I noticed 1.0 dumping core on exit, is that what you're talking about? Had the same behavior with a self-built 1.0, too. -- ra...@iki.fi softrabbit on #lmms -

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS wiki images broken

2014-03-26 Thread giakk...@hotmail.it
The update manager shows me one Microsoft Security Essential [Important] update. Win7 SP1 64bit Firefox 27.0.1 (now that I've updated it, it's version 28) Il 26/03/2014 17:25, Jonathan Aquilina ha scritto: Is windows fully up to date and your browser too? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM, gi

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Great! I think this would take a few minutes of clicking for every track! Would be good to have a switch for this in the Preferences window (so those who want so save some screen space, can hide these controls). 2014-03-26 16:49 GMT+01:00 Israel : > Yes!! > Awesome idea! > > On 03/26/2014 10:34

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I mean, It would *save* *me* a few minutes of clicking for every track :D 2014-03-26 17:32 GMT+01:00 Tobiasz Karoń : > Great! I think this would take a few minutes of clicking for every track! > Would be good to have a switch for this in the Preferences window (so > those who want so save some s

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS wiki images broken

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Is windows fully up to date and your browser too? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM, giakk...@hotmail.it wrote: > It may not sound like it. But, unfortunately, it just happened again, > after having cleared my cache. > Same virus. Doing a search, it happens to be a trojan related to DDoS > attack

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS wiki images broken

2014-03-26 Thread giakk...@hotmail.it
It may not sound like it. But, unfortunately, it just happened again, after having cleared my cache. Same virus. Doing a search, it happens to be a trojan related to DDoS attacks, but I'm not the right person to say it. http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/threat/encyclopedia/entry.aspx?Name

Re: [LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
Yes!! Awesome idea! On 03/26/2014 10:34 AM, Vesa wrote: > By track widget, I mean the "title strip" in the song/bb editors, at the > left side of the actual track. > > We already have vol/pan knobs there, even though those are also > duplicated in the instrument track window. And it's good! They'r

[LMMS-devel] FX channel selector in the instrument track widget?

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
By track widget, I mean the "title strip" in the song/bb editors, at the left side of the actual track. We already have vol/pan knobs there, even though those are also duplicated in the instrument track window. And it's good! They're very convenient for quickly adjusting the volumes/pannings of in

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
No problem hope it helps you solve the issue on 12.04 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Israel wrote: > Ah... that may be why 12.04 has the issues... > I will look into it, thanks! > > On 03/26/2014 09:29 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Look at the ia32 removal and the use of multilib. I dont

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
Ah... that may be why 12.04 has the issues... I will look into it, thanks! On 03/26/2014 09:29 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Look at the ia32 removal and the use of multilib. I dont remember if 12.04 uses ia32libs which i think it does and anything after that it uses the new multilib stuff. O

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
@tres that is where you are wrong apple's aac format is their way of calling it mp4 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > >> what about mp4 is that still a proprietary format as we

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > what about mp4 is that still a proprietary format as well? > >From wikipedia: > MPEG-4 contains patented technologies, the use of which requires licensing > in countries that acknowledge software algorithm patents So no, MP4 would sti

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Look at the ia32 removal and the use of multilib. I dont remember if 12.04 uses ia32libs which i think it does and anything after that it uses the new multilib stuff. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Israel wrote: > 64bit Ubuntu still will not have VST support it has been missing for > qui

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
64bit Ubuntu still will not have VST support it has been missing for quite some time. I am not entirely sure how to FORCE it to work. If 32bit does not have VST/wine that is a huge problem. I am unsure why 12.04 has a core dump. It may be that there are some recommends I need to tweak in or

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 02:57 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 26 March 2014 12:54, Israel wrote: > >> There are some very old mp3 players that don't support OGG, but most support >> it now, because it is a free encoder (doesn't require licensing fees). > > This is incorrect. Fraunhofer was charging more to com

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Israel, I've added `ppa:israeldahl/test-this-one-please` to a Dell pre-loaded install of 12.04. The good: 1. I did not receive any warnings doing the install. Some notes: 1. The name still says "Linux Multimedia Studio" 2. The icon does not display in the Ubuntu Package Manager 3. The 12.04 cor

Re: [LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 02:59 PM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > Wow, this looks great! I love the knob design and overall look. > Looks like a powerful little machine and totally profesional GUI design! > > How about name: *Wrak or Vrak?* > > (in Polish "wrak" means "wreckage", with rust and stuff) > Thanks, but a

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
what about mp4 is that still a proprietary format as well? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > MP3 export would be a big win for reasons David suggested (it work by > default on Windows), but with Soundcloud, this hasn't been much of an issue

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 March 2014 13:32, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > In terms of MP3 support though, it is the importing of MP3s that would > become most useful to LMMS form my experience. Many sample packs are > offered using MP3 compression by default. Many remix competitions use MP3 > compression by default.

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Quoting Israel : > It is built for 12.04 (please test 64bit if you have it) > 13.10( any arch testing appreciated) > 14.04 (32 bit especially!) 12.04, 64 bit, upgrade from 0.4.15. (or 0.9.92 if you ask my lmmsrc.xml :) Now that I think about it, that earlier version was from some PPA, but that

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
MP3 export would be a big win for reasons David suggested (it work by default on Windows), but with Soundcloud, this hasn't been much of an issue for our group, as soundcloud supports OGG. It became more of an issue when we enabled downloads from Soundcloud for a specific track and some of our fan

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 March 2014 12:54, Israel wrote: > There are some very old mp3 players that don't support OGG, but most support > it now, because it is a free encoder (doesn't require licensing fees). This is incorrect. Fraunhofer was charging more to companies who included Ogg than didn't, so many left i

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Israel one place I have not see ogg supported yet but things could have changed are some cdj mixers. they seem to like audio in mp3 format. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Israel wrote: > Personally I think OGG is far superior to mp3 anyhow. It works on > everything I have ever tried, and is

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
On 03/26/2014 07:47 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 26 March 2014 12:41, Israel wrote: > >> Personally I think OGG is far superior to mp3 anyhow. It works on >> everything I have ever tried, and is generally cleaner sounding and can >> often be smaller. > > It does *not* work on Windows for playback

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
What is the difference between LAME and FFMPEG On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > I think MP3 support would be nice for convenience (and backward > compatibility with some folks), as some people and devices (especially > older portable MP3 players) don't support Ogg yet. >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
I suppose that would be fine. Fluendo provides a legal version for use on Ubuntu (just like their DVD program). fortunately the mp3 part works much better than the DVD program. So it would be good to look for fluendo as well... though that may simply be for playback and not encoding though

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 March 2014 12:41, Israel wrote: > Personally I think OGG is far superior to mp3 anyhow. It works on > everything I have ever tried, and is generally cleaner sounding and can > often be smaller. It does *not* work on Windows for playback by default. mp3 does. So if I put stuff up for othe

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I think MP3 support would be nice for convenience (and backward compatibility with some folks), as some people and devices (especially older portable MP3 players) don't support Ogg yet. Maybe we could do it as Audacity does - if the system has installed LAME, then LMMS can use it to encoe to MP3,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 March 2014 12:09, Vesa wrote: > We could of course provide optional dependency against ffmpeg and leave > the choice of installing it or not to the user, like some other > softwares do. But we still couldn't ship ffmpeg with LMMS, and that > means there still wouldn't be mp3 support on wind

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Israel
Personally I think OGG is far superior to mp3 anyhow. It works on everything I have ever tried, and is generally cleaner sounding and can often be smaller. I really see no reason to support mp3 as it takes away freedom and adds nothing noticeable. The only caveat I can see is that the user may

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > We could of course provide optional dependency against ffmpeg and leave > the choice of installing it or not to the user I would be a proponent of this idea. that means there still wouldn't be mp3 support on windows FYI - Lame actually offers a very specific installer for Audacity called "L

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Vesa
On 03/26/2014 12:33 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > in regards to mp3 support. what is ffmpeg then? is that a reverse > engineered open source equivalent to mp3? > No it's not. AFAIK there's no need to reverse-engineer anything with mp3, the spec is public and that's not the problem. The problem is

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS wiki images broken

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
That doesnt sound like its the problem of the wiki. did you clear your browser cache and see if it happens again? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM, giakk...@hotmail.it wrote: > Yeah I also would like to have access to the wiki... > > By the way, opening that page I got both Avira and Microsoft Se

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
in regards to mp3 support. what is ffmpeg then? is that a reverse engineered open source equivalent to mp3? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 03/25/2014 11:02 PM, Stian Jørgensrud wrote: > > I took it for granted that the devs knew about that option. Actually I > > thought LMMS

Re: [LMMS-devel] usr/lib/lmms ubuntu package

2014-03-26 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, sorry for the noise. I wasn't aware of how LMMS determines the plugin directory when writing you a few days back. When LIB_DIR is specified explicitely upon invoking CMake, the specified path will compiled into the LMMS binary and thus the previous build settings (files in /usr/lib//lmms) shou

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-26 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, please try again with latest stable-1.0 branch. Toby -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three ac