Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2006-01-09 Thread Elias Ross
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:47 -0800, Mark Womack wrote: > > > My question before was if you were suggesting a different set of "fine > grain" classes that co-exist with the current set of classes? That was my preferred approach. Adding "fine grained" locking to AppenderSkeleton seems entirely imp

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2006-01-09 Thread Mark Womack
Curt is right. Submitting a CLA and resubmitting the code with proper ASF headers, etc should be sufficient. See this link, under "Contributor License Agreements": http://www.apache.org/licenses/ My question before was if you were suggesting a different set of "fine grain" classes that co-exist

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2006-01-09 Thread Curt Arnold
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Elias Ross wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 22:22 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: I haven't taken a serious look at the code. But if all the IP issues are addressed and there are no objections, I'd have no problem having the contribution in the sandbox. If it then progres

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2006-01-09 Thread Elias Ross
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 22:22 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: > I haven't taken a serious look at the code. But if all the IP issues > are addressed and there are no objections, I'd have no problem having > the contribution in the sandbox. If it then progresses to something > that the community wa

Concurrency (was Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks)

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Womack
Cc: "Curt Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:46 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: I'd prefer to expedite the 2.0 branch and get log4j using a much finer grained locking than maintain

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Womack
Jacob Kjome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Log4J Developers List" Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks At 06:10 PM 12/23/2005 -0600, you wrote: > >On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Jacob Kjome wrote: > >> >> A bi

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Jacob Kjome wrote: | | A bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but just how big is | log4j-1.3 going to be and just how polluted with 1.2.xx stuff are we going to | make it? Originally, a lot of stuff was refactored and/or removed and | replaced by, arguably, bette

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-24 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 06:10 PM 12/23/2005 -0600, you wrote: > >On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Jacob Kjome wrote: > >> >> A bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but just how big >> is log4j-1.3 going to be and just how polluted with 1.2.xx stuff >> are we going to make it? Originally, a lot of stuff was ref

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-23 Thread Curt Arnold
On Dec 23, 2005, at 6:37 PM, Elias Ross wrote: On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:46 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: I'd prefer to expedite the 2.0 branch and get log4j using a much finer grained locking than maintaining two parallel sets of appenders with different locking characteristics. I'd be happy to

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-23 Thread Elias Ross
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:46 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: > I'd prefer to expedite the 2.0 branch and get log4j using a much > finer grained locking than maintaining two parallel sets of appenders > with different locking characteristics. I'd be happy to help expedite a 2.0 release, but it seems

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-23 Thread Curt Arnold
On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Jacob Kjome wrote: A bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but just how big is log4j-1.3 going to be and just how polluted with 1.2.xx stuff are we going to make it? Originally, a lot of stuff was refactored and/or removed and replaced by, arguably

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-23 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, > thoughts? As a team, we're split between wanting binary compatibility at all costs and wanting to move forward with a cleaner, leaner log4j with new features that don't necessarily maintain that compatibility. Because the people who care about backwards compatibility are more active in bot

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-23 Thread Jacob Kjome
A bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but just how big is log4j-1.3 going to be and just how polluted with 1.2.xx stuff are we going to make it? Originally, a lot of stuff was refactored and/or removed and replaced by, arguably, better implementations. Last changes I made, I had

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Womack
I was pretty tired last night, so maybe my reaction as "shameful" was a little much. But I still believe there is a lot of room for improvement that needs to be done. If you look at the documentation we have, there is the short introduction (which is old and needs some updating; it doesn't even t

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-22 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, > biased view. But I don't agree with the documentation. We REALLY need to > do something. I think our current state is pretty shameful. I only bundled them together because one of the reasons for moving to Maven is improved documentation. > I'd like to > get more community involvement,

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Curt Arnold
On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Elias Ross wrote: On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 21:09 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: - Locking/threading/synchronization issues I think it will be difficult or impossible to safely address the "locks when trying to log during a toString() call" without potentially breaking

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Elias Ross
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 21:09 -0600, Curt Arnold wrote: > > > - Locking/threading/synchronization issues > > I think it will be difficult or impossible to safely address the > "locks when trying to log during a toString() call" without > potentially breaking somebody else. It is an undesirable

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Womack
http://wiki.apache.org/logging-log4j/Log4j13PrioritizedTasks - Original Message - From: "Yoav Shapira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Log4J Developers List" Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks Perhaps this prioriti

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Womack
riginal Message - From: "Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Log4J Developers List" Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:32 PM Subject: Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks On 22/12/2005, at 1:29 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, I'm OK with this prioritation except for

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Curt Arnold
On Dec 21, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Mark Womack wrote: I prioritized the task list from the previous thread. Not all of these are dependent on each other, but I beleive that we should look at completing the first 2 before seriously tackling anything else. The last 4 could happen in any order and most

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Paul Smith
On 22/12/2005, at 1:29 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, I'm OK with this prioritation except for one thing: build changes should be just about last, or possibly 2nd to last together with documentation, as they are a pure enhancement and not a must-have by any stretch. +1 build + site work right n

Re: log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, I'm OK with this prioritation except for one thing: build changes should be just about last, or possibly 2nd to last together with documentation, as they are a pure enhancement and not a must-have by any stretch. Perhaps this prioritized list belongs on a wiki page where we can jointly edit it

log4j 1.3 prioritized tasks

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Womack
I prioritized the task list from the previous thread. Not all of these are dependent on each other, but I beleive that we should look at completing the first 2 before seriously tackling anything else. The last 4 could happen in any order and most likely in parallel. Documentation will get setup