[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Jorge Llambías
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Interesting; I'm seeing a bit more merit to this when it's presented > this way. It seemed odd before, but it makes some sense now. To take > this to its logical conclusion, though, how would you say "What > classes are you taking this semester

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Johnson
Interesting; I'm seeing a bit more merit to this when it's presented this way. It seemed odd before, but it makes some sense now. To take this to its logical conclusion, though, how would you say "What classes are you taking this semester?" I'm not sure it'd be the same word, and if it were I think

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Jorge Llambías
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM, tijlan wrote: > On 25 February 2010 05:52, Luke Bergen wrote: >> 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something similar >> for class.  Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o} > > I personally wouldn't object to having a NU-ed sumti a

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Luke Bergen
> For example: u'e zei cizra, lol zei cizra, brbrbr zei cizra. Is it legitimate to mix in free-style English into lojban if you use {zei} like that? {lol zei cizra} .u'i On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, tijlan wrote: > On 25 February 2010 05:52, Luke Bergen wrote: > > 1) You could try a lujvo

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread tijlan
On 25 February 2010 05:52, Luke Bergen wrote: > 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something similar > for class.  Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o} I personally wouldn't object to having a NU-ed sumti as {klama}'s proper x2, because I think that any place i

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Johnson
Useful once you have a good tanru or when trying to interpret another's lujvo that you don't recognize; less useful for making your own. I suppose, though, that making tanru/lujvo is one of the harder parts of getting good at a language like this; you have to be comfortable enough with the gismu an

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Luke Bergen
Well, one really cool tool that I've used for making lujvo is jvozba (lujvo zbasu) http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?lujvo= On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Ian Johnson wrote: > I know of jbovlaste and similar sources; my issue is in putting > together tanru and lujvo to express co

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Johnson
I know of jbovlaste and similar sources; my issue is in putting together tanru and lujvo to express concepts like these. This one, at least at that level, I should've probably been able to make, knowing ctuca and ckule, but at the same time it seems a bit vague, even relative to the English equival

[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

2010-02-24 Thread Luke Bergen
1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something similar for class. Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o} 2) jbovlaste.lojban.org is a good source for word definitions. 3) I guess it would depend on what you mean by "trippy". Maybe some lujvo with {cizra} in it so