Dean S Wilson writes:
> Uncross those fingers. ;) Since your in the know what perl books are
> forthcoming? Anything on Perl XML?
I'm shit-scared of talking about books in progress, in case I jinx
them. I can say that Tom and I have begun talking about a second
edition of the Cookbook. I've got
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:46:35PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
> >on getting started with Glade and Perl/Gtk.
>
>
> I now hate you.
It took *this*
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:18:14AM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
>
> Once the unwashed masses know the word perl, that's half the battle won.
Presumably, the other half is when we get them to bathe?
:-)
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Learned? You must be c
sorry for this spam, but i just figured out exactly how to explain my
campaign world, and it simply is a cross between ``Snow Crash'' and
``Zodiac'' - same rough technology level, same flavour, exactly that
(ok and maybe a little neuromancer as well)
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Just to let you all know we still need some players for thursday nights
roleplaying game, all are welcome even if you have never played before.
At the minute i'm estimated 4.5 players but would like a few more. Just
to give you a rough feel
The year is 2010, after the American elections of
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Visibility is the key, how many of your clueless cowworkers have heard of
> Visual Basic, or Visual C++, but couldn't even tell the difference between
> them let alone use them. I've never met a non-programmer who has heard of
> Perl.
>
> Maybe we n
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > Greg are you trolling? If so let me play ;)
> >
Of course, trolling is the game the whole family can enjoy! Later
on I think I might start a rant about how Perl will
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Greg are you trolling? If so let me play ;)
>
> >> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
> is the
> >> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot
> more cool
> >> proj
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:27:46PM +, David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:16:27PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> > > ... they've opened the Author Online forum for you all to
> > > embarass me with difficult ques
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote:
>Camelot
> An experimental Web Application Framework which makes (most) other
> so-called "Web Application Frameworks" look like a really silly
> idea. Br! That's chilly.
Naturally, this tempts me.
--
Shevek
I am the Borg.
sub AU
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:10:05PM +, Shevek wrote:
>Having taught both, I can say that I would far rather teach undergraduates
>Java for many reasons. In fact, they'd probably be better learning
>something even more restrictive and more trivial. That doesn't make it
>good.
So really it's Pa
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Dean S Wilson wrote:
> I think that marketing is the key term in this mail. Java has a good
> marketing team and is being taught in universities at the moment,
> nothing better than having a lot of fresh faced advocates being
> spawned at the end of each term.
Having taught b
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:27:46PM +, David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:16:27PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
>
> > ... they've opened the Author Online forum for you all to
> > embarass me with difficult questions.
>
> " Dave, is it true that as well as mungi
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:16:27PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> ... they've opened the Author Online forum for you all to
> embarass me with difficult questions.
" Dave, is it true that as well as munging data, this book will teach me
how to munge perldoc into printed books? "
--
David Cant
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:02:14PM +, jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > of course you need a name, I personally like Rope - its
> > a play on Zope and it conveys the idea that the rope is strong
> > because it has many strands within it
>
> how about 'Pope' because it is infallible
* jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> how about 'Pope' because it is infallible?
>
or because it doesn't go down ;-)
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-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> I was wondering how hard it would be to put together a mini
Application
>> server toolkit.
Hows this for a starting point?
http://www.apachetoolbox.com/
He has porting it to perl
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:15:43AM -0700, Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Dean S Wilson writes:
> > While looking for a release date on the manning site I found this:
> > http://www.manning.com/cross/ebook.html
>
> Cool! Congratulations, Dave!
Thanks, Nat.
> I wonder what the $
>
> of course you need a name, I personally like Rope - its
> a play on Zope and it conveys the idea that the rope is strong
> because it has many strands within it
how about 'Pope' because it is infallible?
jo
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> I was wondering how hard it would be to put together a mini Application
> server toolkit.
>
i think this is a wondeful idea and it ties into what dave hodgkinson
was talking about before about the mod_perl site.
> A pre-built apache with mod_perl,
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> My heresy of the day: if I want to write a graphical app, I'll write the
> front-end in Java, with a perl back-end and some kind of RPC gluing them
> together.
That's not a heresy at all, that's just common sense in using the best tool
for the job. I've
On 7 Jan 2001, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > And anyway, computing by publisher is getting a lot better. You just
> > browse O'Reilly, Addison Wesley and Prentice Hall.
>
> Heretic. Manning publish Conway's OO Perl book.
>
What? You browse for errors/ typos in Conway's book?
Anyway, the point wa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:28:10PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> The main problem I've faced when dealing with the Tk stuff is that I have
> no idea how a good way to slam standard components together is.
The best way is to use a graphical interface to build the interface.
Something VB, and to a s
-Original Message-
From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Before I launch in a kind of defence of the book, let me remind you
>all that I liked the book before Tim started signing my paycheque.
:-)
Uncross those fingers. ;) Since your in the know what perl books are
forthcoming?
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:40:32AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
>Dean S Wilson writes:
>> Learning Perl/TK should be used as an off-line reference if its used
>> at all.
>Learning Perl/Tk isn't really *meant* to be a reference. Like the
>other Learning books, it's supposed to be an introduct
Dean S Wilson writes:
> I dislike the Learning Perl/TK book
Before I launch in a kind of defence of the book, let me remind you
all that I liked the book before Tim started signing my paycheque. :-)
> Learning Perl/TK just seemed to be too much of a rehash of the
> perldoc pages
There are perld
> O'Reily's Perl/Tk book, discussion there of.
I bought it pre-Christmas and read it through. I do like the idea of
Tk. Seems a lot more simple that Java or GTK stuff to do. Sure, infinite
themeability is all very nice and all, but most of the time I just want to
do something really quickly.
Dean S Wilson writes:
> While looking for a release date on the manning site I found this:
> http://www.manning.com/cross/ebook.html
Cool! Congratulations, Dave!
I wonder what the $3.50 service charge is. It might be their way of
making you pay for credit-card processing (3.50 is a lot, though
-Original Message-
From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Data point: the O'Reilly Perl/Tk book mysteriously jumped in the
>Amazon sales rankings lately. It's been in the 100-300 range the
last
>few weeks.
Toilet paper must be scarce ;)
I dislike the Learning Perl/TK book and I'
-Original Message-
From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Dean S Wilson writes:
>> Has anyone tried Linux glade recently? Is it stable with perl yet?
>The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
>on getting started with Glade and Perl/Gtk.
I now hate yo
Kieran Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:05PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > > Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> > >
> > > In
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> Ok, we are not (void) but we are pretty close so here is a one liner that
> hopefully will provote discussion
>
> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language is the
> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hel
Dean S Wilson writes:
> Has anyone tried Linux glade recently? Is it stable with perl yet?
The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
on getting started with Glade and Perl/Gtk.
Nat
(tease)
Leon Brocard writes:
> Yes. This is because Perl is not thought of as being a GUI
> language[1]. Discuss.
> [1] Simon's articles on Perl Gnome are a good step though
>
> ps I'm back from Venezuela and only now find out the box has been
>/.-ed...
Data point: the O'Reilly Perl/Tk book mysterio
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:46:04PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
> Does anyone think that compilation is an issue with perls lack of user
> space apps? Discuss[1].
As a vague point I was looking for a good jabber client. Tried jarl, which
is perl, and gabber, which is C. jarl is perl/Tk, I think. g
-Original Message-
From: Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
>> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
is the
>> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot
more cool
>> projects tha
Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language is the
> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot more cool
> projects than perl
Yes. This is because Perl is not thought of as being a GUI
lan
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:12:37PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language is the
> > projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot more cool
> > projects than perl
>
> I
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