Re: h2xs && makemaker

2001-03-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 04:09:17PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > whilst getting to grips with h2xs this week (which is nowhere near as > scary as i thought) I read a really good tutorial on building perl > modules that started with: > > 1) use h2xs > 2) use h2xs > 3) USE H2XS > > I think it t

Talking about xs...

2001-03-12 Thread Roger Burton West
This strikes me as something that needs a perl module... anyone feeling particularly bored and like playing with XS? ]librsync (http://freshmeat.net/projects/librsync/) ] by Martin Pool (http://freshmeat.net/users/bootswork/) ] ]librsync makes the network-delta functions of the popular rsync fil

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-12 Thread Philip Newton
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > MBM (runs away very fast from ever having to touch a piece of > code by the now infamous Matt Wright ever again...) That reminds me of something I saw on the weekend: http://neptune.nildram.co.uk/users/cgi.php3 , last paragraph: "For your convienience, we

Re: Talking about xs...

2001-03-12 Thread Leon Brocard
Roger Burton West sent the following bits through the ether: > This strikes me as something that needs a perl module... anyone feeling > particularly bored and like playing with XS? > > ]librsync (http://freshmeat.net/projects/librsync/) I was *sure* something like this was already on CPAN[1].

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-12 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote: > http://neptune.nildram.co.uk/users/cgi.php3 , last paragraph: > > "For your convienience, we have a public CGI directory > available to all our Unix hosting customers. included is > FormMail, the industry-standard form-to-email processor." >

Re: h2xs && makemaker

2001-03-12 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote: > Well, the ExtUtils::MakeMaker man page contains similiar words of > wisdom, but I don't think it's really what you're after... > >How To Write A Makefile.PL > >The short answer is: Don't. > >Always begin with h2xs. >

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > At Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:24:10 -, "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ > > > > DJ Adams, yet another famous London Perl Monger! > > > > With a photo as well no less. > > Not just _any_ photo, but one of him drinking

Re: Talking about xs...

2001-03-12 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:31:09AM +, Leon Brocard typed: >Roger Burton West sent the following bits through the ether: >> ]librsync (http://freshmeat.net/projects/librsync/) >I was *sure* something like this was already on CPAN[1]. H. I still >don't really see what advantages ha

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Dean
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:39:43AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > suggestion for website: > > How about a page of our acheivments? > > ie CPAN modules, Books, credits, talks and drinking feats? If you were going to do this shouldn't they just go under the member pages on london.pm.org?

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Dean wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:39:43AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > suggestion for website: > > > > How about a page of our acheivments? > > > > ie CPAN modules, Books, credits, talks and drinking feats? > > If you were going to do this shouldn't they just go

Re: Autoconf Magic

2001-03-12 Thread Dean
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:23:04AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > Anybody know anything about doing autoconf stuff (for a C makefile, sad > but it's necessary) or know any good place to look? Not personally but i have this in my bookmark list: http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_to

Re: Autoconf Magic

2001-03-12 Thread Simon Wistow
Dean wrote: > Not personally but i have this in my bookmark list: > http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_toc.html Seems to be the ticket - I only needit for very quick stuff - compiling and installing a .so and a program linked about it. Will have a look at that page and other ex

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Marty Pauley
On Sat Mar 10 08:30:53 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:48:16AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder if O'Reilly approached the copyright holder ... > > > > > > Heh! > > > > > "The use of the beer glass image i

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Dave Cross
At 10:39 12/03/2001, you wrote: >On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > At Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:24:10 -, "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ > > > > > > DJ Adams, yet another famous London Perl Monger! > > > > > > With a photo as well no less. > >

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 10:39 12/03/2001, you wrote: > >On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > At Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:24:10 -, "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ > > > > > > > > DJ Adams, yet another famous London Pe

Directory enquiries...

2001-03-12 Thread Redvers Davies
Hi, If anyone has Piers' mobile number handy could they forward it to me privatly?... Unfortunatly I (the idiot) left my mobile at home today and I need to get hold of him this afternoon. Thanks

Version control

2001-03-12 Thread David Cantrell
There's been a bit of discussion about version control on the IRC channel. Summary of discussion: CVS and RCS both suck, they just suck in different ways, and subversion is vapourware which doesn't even promise to overcome the problems in CVS/RCS. But there are alternatives. Does anyone here ha

Re: Version control

2001-03-12 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion about version control on the IRC channel. > > Summary of discussion: CVS and RCS both suck, they just suck in different > ways, and subversion is vapourware which doesn't even promise to overcome > the problems in CVS/

Re: Version control

2001-03-12 Thread Dave Cross
At 16:17 12/03/2001, you wrote: >There's been a bit of discussion about version control on the IRC channel. > >Summary of discussion: CVS and RCS both suck, they just suck in different >ways, and subversion is vapourware which doesn't even promise to overcome >the problems in CVS/RCS. > >But there

Re: Version control

2001-03-12 Thread Leon Brocard
David Cantrell sent the following bits through the ether: > But there are alternatives. Does anyone here have any comments on > Perforce or Clearcase? Needless to say, both companies have crap websites > with no useful documentation and a tonne of marketing arse. I've used Perforce previously,

Re: Version control

2001-03-12 Thread Andy Williams
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion about version control on the IRC channel. > > Summary of discussion: CVS and RCS both suck, they just suck in different > ways, and subversion is vapourware which doesn't even promise to overcome > the problems in CVS/R

Re: Version control

2001-03-12 Thread Marty Pauley
On Mon Mar 12 16:57:09 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: > David Cantrell sent the following bits through the ether: > > > But there are alternatives. Does anyone here have any comments on > > Perforce or Clearcase? Needless to say, both companies have crap websites > > with no useful documentation and

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:28:42AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > > http://neptune.nildram.co.uk/users/cgi.php3 , last paragraph: > > > > "For your convienience, we have a public CGI directory > > available to all our Unix hosting customers. included is

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:25:38PM +, Marty Pauley wrote: > On Sat Mar 10 08:30:53 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > > "The use of the beer glass image in association with the Perl language > > > > is a trademark of the London Perl Monger

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Ah, but you never were at any of the early meetings when Randal was > still drinking... :) > bah, you don't catch us resting on historical laurels - such as the time Stowe set up the TVR Jug train, or the time we had that little incident with the

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : bah, you don't catch us resting on historical laurels - such as the : time Stowe set up the TVR Jug train, or the time we had that little : incident with the toilet seat, no siree, we perform month in month : out - apart from

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mark Rogaski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > An entity claiming to be Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > : > : bah, you don't catch us resting on historical laurels - such as the > : time Stowe set up the TVR Jug train, or the time we had that little > : incident with the toilet seat, no

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when > it came to _beer_. Just beer in relation to perl dha -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Well, sure, being a r

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-12 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > well .. to be fair .. yes its appalling Perl but it works, and it IS the > > industry standard if only because there is nothing better freely > > available. > > Maybe I missed a meeting again, but doesn't the "industry" tend to > refuse the standardness of

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Dave Cross
At 20:18 12/03/2001, you wrote: >On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > > > I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when > > it came to _beer_. > >Just beer in relation to perl You _do_ realise that I've now put the trademark notice on

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:18:53PM +, Dave Cross wrote: > At 20:18 12/03/2001, you wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > > > > > I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when > > > it came to _beer_. > > > >Just beer in relatio

Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 20:18 12/03/2001, you wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > > > > > I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when > > > it came to _beer_. > > > >Just beer in relation to perl > > Y

Damian's Diary

2001-03-12 Thread Dave Cross
Damian's hectic world tour has now finished and he's had time to update his online diary. He says a lot of nice things about us here . Dave... -- SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data Munging with Perl