RE: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Good Beer? Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)? Food that can be ate in bar? Lots of seating? Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)? Central to ``business'' London? with this scale, Penderels scores

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:29:19AM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: There's The George and Dragon just south of London Bridge. Easily walkable from LB station or even the City (I used to go there a lot). [snip] And there's and extra point if you can name the SF book it's mentioned in. Well,

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Natalie Ford
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:16:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Good Beer? Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)? Food that can be ate in bar? Lots of seating? Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)? Central to ``business'' London? Can we add accessibility to

Re: bad greg

2001-05-31 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:27:19AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain name registry with a neat web

Re: bad greg

2001-05-31 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:07:15PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Mr Couzens Die, alien slime! My apologies was typed in a hurry on a tube train and I didn't double

Re: bad greg

2001-05-31 Thread Piers Cawley
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Mr Couzens Die, alien slime! My apologies was typed in a hurry on a tube train and I didn't double check before it got

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Robert Shiels
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:16:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Good Beer? Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)? Food that can be ate in bar? Lots of seating? Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)? Central to ``business'' London? Can we add

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Wistow
Neil Ford wrote: Only one question food? Yes, AFAIK. Standard pub grub. -- simon wistowwireless systems coder i think, i said i think this is our fault.

Re: bad greg

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Cozens
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:00:22AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: FreeBSD users, Debian committers, OpenSRS registry (can do .co.uk's too), ^ are they?? Indeed they are. http://www.earth.li/~noodles/computers.html -- The Second Law of Thermodynamics: If you think

OSCon London

2001-05-31 Thread Cross David - dcross
I got a catalogue mailed to me from ORA UK yesterday. Nothing unusual in that, I'm always getting catalogues in the post from O'Reilly. This one, however, had an advert on the from about the Open Source Convention. Not the San Diego Open Source Convention, but one in London on October 22 - 25.

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Dean
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:03:54AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: I like PO a lot. I can agree with this. Central, nice food, holds a lot of people. Only problem i have with the place is that when we get seated in a corner anyone who turns up late ends up sitting on another table. Its not a

Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300! Having just compared that with my main server (10K 7.2K SCSIs) that's 10x slower. The thing I

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID (HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better... vinum in mirror mode is not supposed to be that good (apparently it does no integrity checking of

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300! What does hdparm have to say? -- Dave

Re: OSCon London

2001-05-31 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Thursday, May 31, 2001, at 12:00 PM, Cross David - dcross wrote: This one, however, had an advert on the from about the Open Source Convention. Not the San Diego Open Source Convention, but one in London on October 22 - 25. That's currently all I know, but I'll see what else I can

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:27:07AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID (HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better... vinum in mirror mode is

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:19:28AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: What does hdparm have to say? Ah yes, thanks, I remember that from 1997, the last time I used it :-) I switched DMA on both drives (hdparm -d1), and interrupts went down, transfer rate went up and all was good. Now, why do I have

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler typed: I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the installer

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Dean
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: I head off to the activestate page and download the MSI for the latest build. My question is...how do I install this? I can't find the MSI installer anywhere on their site. What version of Windows is it? 2000, ME and the newer

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 31/5/01 12:37 pm, Mark Fowler wrote: I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the installer when they switched back. I

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Andy Williams
You can find it at http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe Andy We can go back to Dallas, November 22, 1963, stand on the grassy knoll and shout,DUCK!!

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You can find it at http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$ ploy

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:07:31PM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed: yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$ ploy to control the standard install packages? I'll take option C for six million

Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-31 Thread Redvers Davies
I like PO a lot. I can agree with this. Central, nice food, holds a lot of people. Well, for everyone that likes there is an equal and opersite number of those who dislike. I really don't like the PO... We need somewhere which is quieter although I can't think of anywhere at the moment.

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Roger Burton West wrote: It makes a certain amount of sense. Rather than having to distribute an installer program with every package, have a standard installer program that you only need to download once. Copying files, of course, is _much_ too difficult. Hmm..all

Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Barbie
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] I supose the real question is a) Why don't activestate mirror the latest installer on their site, or.. b) At least link to it whenever you offer a MSI package to download (or at least on the 'downloads' page Last time I downloaded (build 623) they

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Wistow
Cross David - dcross wrote: [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness. [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind this firewall I get The Websense category Tasteless is restricted.

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:02 PM Just plucked this out of alt.humour.best.of.usenet (originally from the frasier newsgroup), and it made me curl up with laughter, maybe its not everyones taste

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Cross David - dcross wrote: [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness. [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind this firewall I get

RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM Cross David - dcross wrote: [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness. [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM Cross David - dcross wrote: [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness. [2] At

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1]. Is that fuckwit still going? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced

RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread duncan
I have reasons to believe that Mike Corley lives very close to me. because your gold plated cats keep on getting covered in tin foil? duncan

RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:32 PM * Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM Cross David - dcross wrote: [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1]. Is that fuckwit still going? yeah, but he's a little thin these days as he's been on a spam and rice diet to use up

RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Andy Williams
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me. Dave... I'd move Andy

RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me. Dave... I'd move Andy Nah... Have some fun... Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again black

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Robert Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me. Dave... I'd move Andy Nah... Have some fun... Walk down the

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300!

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Andy Williams
Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera. add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads dissappearing into a satchel for more fun Stopping every 20 to 30 yards

Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera. add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads dissappearing into a

London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-28

2001-05-31 Thread Leon Brocard
This is the nineteenth weekly summary of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. For the random week starting 2001-05-28, which started off fairly quietly and had 170 messages. Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is an social meeting on Thursday 7th June which

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: another tip is to mount the two IDE devices on seperate controllers .. seems to improve things sometimes. Oh Lord, yes. More busses than London General. No, really. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:32:58PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: whistles for quick HD access turned to 'off' .. I tripled the transfer rate on my slaptop by turning DMA and other stuff on ... and it didn;t explode like the manpage said it might. I caved and upgraded to 2.4.5, something I

LAMP in Amsterdam anyone?

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:12:30AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move windows and they

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move windows and they don't get mouse focus.

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this: % kwin -- display :0.1 (--display) Try that and see if it works... Yes! Thanks. Now to get it to start like that on its own... It's very weird re-learning X after

Re: LAMP in Amsterdam anyone?

2001-05-31 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948 I've already sent in a CV for that one. Agent seemed a little perturbed when I guessed who it was after his (short) description of what the client did. -- Piers Cawley

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse moves between them as though they're one but I can't drag windows back

Re: LAMP in Amsterdam anyone?

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948 I've already sent in a CV for that one. Agent seemed a little perturbed when I guessed who it was after his (short) description of what the

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:42:50AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this: % kwin -- display :0.1 (--display) Sorry, saw that after I posted... Why don't spell checkers

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:47:28AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Wistow
Dominic Mitchell wrote: I'd like to tell you how to get the flash plugin working, but I couldn't because it's a Linux .so and can't be linked in to my FreeBSD konqueror. :-( There's an OpenSource version written by Olivier Debon. It's not as good as the official one but it's better than a

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:55:12PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: The monitor layout should be controllable from the XF86Config file. Somehow. I haven't tried this though. RTFM. I have, Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: I have, Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Look, look, bad Text::Autoformat setup. I suck. Anyway.. And I have

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:41:45PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Look, look, bad

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Mison
On 31/05/2001 at 17:41 +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: You really only have to change LeftOf and RightOf to switch the monitors around (which I did last time I moved desk as I went from having one monitor to the left of the primary console monitor to having one monitor to the right.) You can't do

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse moves between them as

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Redvers Davies
KDE2's Konqueror browser is really, really impressive. Wow! Seems quicker and less crashy than Mozilla. Now if only it played Flash and Quicktime movies... Mine does flash...

Re: Decompression

2001-05-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dean wrote: Question for the unix people on the list. I have an archive that's gzipped up and contains either a number of small files or a single large file. What's the easiest way to extract any given file? It has to use core modules and anyone with a sample script can

Re: Decompression

2001-05-31 Thread Dean
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 06:56:21PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: Also for future reference does any one know a better way to do this than Compress::Zlib, core or non-core. I suppose # tar -xzf [archivename] [filename/that/you.want] is too easy .. I'm missing something again aren't I?

Re: Decompression

2001-05-31 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 06:28:44PM +0100, Dean wrote: Question for the unix people on the list. I have an archive that's gzipped up and contains either a number of small files or a single large file. Umm, *strokes beard* by archive you mean tar file, right? If so then Archive::Tar looks

Re: Forthcoming Meetings

2001-05-31 Thread Richard Clamp
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 02:09:56PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Technical Meeting: Thursday 21st June Need a venue for this please people. And speakers. If any speakers want to practise TPC or YAPC::E talks, then this might be a good time to do it. Sure, I'd like to do Itcpbug as a

Re: crazy golf

2001-05-31 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game? I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place is the problem. /J\

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Attribute::Overload 0.02

2001-05-31 Thread Damian Conway
Note that you can't overload constants this way, since this has to happen during BEGIN time, but attributes are only evaluated at CHECK time (at least as far as `Attribute::Handlers' is concerned). Not so. At least not as of the next release. Grab the beta from:

Re: crazy golf

2001-05-31 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place is the problem. If you book it, they will come. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bad greg

2001-05-31 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Chris Ball wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:27:19AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain name registry with a neat web based management

Re: SQL statements to DB Schema (dia ?)

2001-05-31 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Leo Lapworth wrote: You might want to check out: Arron's Autodia - http://autodia.cuckoo.org/ It's not quite at the stage I think you are after but I've lost track of what it can and can't do. Last I heard they were putting it up to be an candidate in the elections

Re: SQL statements to DB Schema (dia ?)

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Sharpe
Aaron Trevena wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, Leo Lapworth wrote: You might want to check out: Arron's Autodia - http://autodia.cuckoo.org/ It's not quite at the stage I think you are after but I've lost track of what it can and can't do. Last I heard they were putting it up to be

Re: l337

2001-05-31 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:28:25AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: my name is jon i have installed an irc client on my linux shell account can u tell me where the c00lest irc places are like what server and channel and stuff u all use so i can