From: Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Good Beer?
Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)?
Food that can be ate in bar?
Lots of seating?
Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)?
Central to ``business'' London?
with this scale,
Penderels scores
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:29:19AM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote:
There's The George and Dragon just south of London Bridge. Easily walkable
from LB station or even the City (I used to go there a lot).
[snip]
And there's and extra point if you can name the SF book it's mentioned in.
Well,
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:16:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Good Beer?
Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)?
Food that can be ate in bar?
Lots of seating?
Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)?
Central to ``business'' London?
Can we add accessibility to
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:27:19AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives
of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain
name registry with a neat web
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:07:15PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
Mr Couzens
Die, alien slime!
My apologies was typed in a hurry on a tube train and I didn't double
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
Mr Couzens
Die, alien slime!
My apologies was typed in a hurry on a tube train and I didn't double
check before it got
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:16:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Good Beer?
Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)?
Food that can be ate in bar?
Lots of seating?
Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)?
Central to ``business'' London?
Can we add
Neil Ford wrote:
Only one question food?
Yes, AFAIK. Standard pub grub.
--
simon wistowwireless systems coder
i think, i said i think this is our fault.
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:00:22AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
FreeBSD users, Debian committers, OpenSRS registry (can do .co.uk's too),
^
are they??
Indeed they are. http://www.earth.li/~noodles/computers.html
--
The Second Law of Thermodynamics:
If you think
I got a catalogue mailed to me from ORA UK yesterday. Nothing unusual in
that, I'm always getting catalogues in the post from O'Reilly.
This one, however, had an advert on the from about the Open Source
Convention. Not the San Diego Open Source Convention, but one in London on
October 22 - 25.
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:03:54AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
I like PO a lot.
I can agree with this. Central, nice food, holds a lot of people.
Only problem i have with the place is that when we get seated in a corner
anyone who turns up late ends up sitting on another table. Its not a
I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new
7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's
unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300!
Having just compared that with my main server (10K 7.2K SCSIs) that's
10x slower. The thing I
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID
(HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better...
vinum in mirror mode is not supposed to be that good (apparently it does
no integrity checking of
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new
7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's
unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300!
What does hdparm have to say?
--
Dave
On Thursday, May 31, 2001, at 12:00 PM, Cross David - dcross wrote:
This one, however, had an advert on the from about the Open Source
Convention. Not the San Diego Open Source Convention, but one in London
on
October 22 - 25. That's currently all I know, but I'll see what else I
can
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:27:07AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID
(HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better...
vinum in mirror mode is
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:19:28AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
What does hdparm have to say?
Ah yes, thanks, I remember that from 1997, the last time I used it :-)
I switched DMA on both drives (hdparm -d1), and interrupts went down,
transfer rate went up and all was good. Now, why do I have
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler typed:
I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly
switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
installer
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
I head off to the activestate page and download the MSI for the latest
build. My question is...how do I install this? I can't find the MSI
installer anywhere on their site.
What version of Windows is it? 2000, ME and the newer
on 31/5/01 12:37 pm, Mark Fowler wrote:
I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly
switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
installer when they switched back.
I
You can find it at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe
Andy
We can go back to Dallas, November 22, 1963, stand on the
grassy knoll and shout,DUCK!!
* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You can find it at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe
yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$
ploy
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:07:31PM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed:
yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$
ploy to control the standard install packages?
I'll take option C for six million
I like PO a lot.
I can agree with this. Central, nice food, holds a lot of people.
Well, for everyone that likes there is an equal and opersite number of those
who dislike. I really don't like the PO... We need somewhere which is
quieter although I can't think of anywhere at the moment.
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
It makes a certain amount of sense. Rather than having to distribute an
installer program with every package, have a standard installer program
that you only need to download once.
Copying files, of course, is _much_ too difficult.
Hmm..all
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I supose the real question is
a) Why don't activestate mirror the latest installer on their site, or..
b) At least link to it whenever you offer a MSI package to download (or
at least on the 'downloads' page
Last time I downloaded (build 623) they
Cross David - dcross wrote:
[1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with
Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
[2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind
this firewall I get The Websense category Tasteless is restricted.
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:02 PM
Just plucked this out of alt.humour.best.of.usenet (originally from
the frasier newsgroup), and it made me curl up with laughter, maybe
its not everyones taste
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Cross David - dcross wrote:
[1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with
Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
[2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind
this firewall I get
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM
Cross David - dcross wrote:
[1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted
with
Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
[2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM
Cross David - dcross wrote:
[1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted
with
Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
[2] At
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1].
Is that fuckwit still going?
--
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/
Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced
I have reasons to believe that Mike Corley lives very close to me.
because your gold plated cats keep on getting covered in tin foil?
duncan
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:32 PM
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM
Cross David - dcross wrote:
[1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1].
Is that fuckwit still going?
yeah, but he's a little thin these days as he's been on a spam and rice
diet to use up
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote:
That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me.
Dave...
I'd move
Andy
From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote:
That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me.
Dave...
I'd move
Andy
Nah...
Have some fun...
Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again
black
* Robert Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote:
That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me.
Dave...
I'd move
Andy
Nah...
Have some fun...
Walk down the
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new
7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's
unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300!
Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again
black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera.
add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads
dissappearing into a satchel for more fun
Stopping every 20 to 30 yards
* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again
black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera.
add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads
dissappearing into a
This is the nineteenth weekly summary of the London Perl Mongers
mailing list. For the random week starting 2001-05-28, which started
off fairly quietly and had 170 messages.
Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting
is an social meeting on Thursday 7th June which
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
another tip is to mount the two IDE devices on seperate controllers ..
seems to improve things sometimes.
Oh Lord, yes. More busses than London General. No, really.
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:32:58PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
whistles for quick HD access turned to 'off' .. I tripled the transfer
rate on my slaptop by turning DMA and other stuff on ... and it didn;t
explode like the manpage said it might.
I caved and upgraded to 2.4.5, something I
http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:12:30AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I
finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add
decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move
windows and they
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I
finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add
decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move
windows and they don't get mouse focus.
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this:
% kwin -- display :0.1
(--display)
Try that and see if it works...
Yes! Thanks. Now to get it to start like that on its own... It's very
weird re-learning X after
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948
I've already sent in a CV for that one. Agent seemed a little
perturbed when I guessed who it was after his (short) description of
what the client did.
--
Piers Cawley
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into
one display?)
No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The
mouse moves between them as though they're one but I can't drag windows
back
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948
I've already sent in a CV for that one. Agent seemed a little
perturbed when I guessed who it was after his (short) description of
what the
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:42:50AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this:
% kwin -- display :0.1
(--display)
Sorry, saw that after I posted... Why don't spell checkers
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:47:28AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into
one display?)
No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The
mouse
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
I'd like to tell you how to get the flash plugin working, but I couldn't
because it's a Linux .so and can't be linked in to my FreeBSD konqueror. :-(
There's an OpenSource version written by Olivier Debon. It's not as good
as the official one but it's better than a
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:55:12PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
The monitor layout should be controllable from the XF86Config file.
Somehow. I haven't tried this though. RTFM.
I have,
Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen Primary
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
I have,
Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary
Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection
Look, look, bad Text::Autoformat setup. I suck. Anyway..
And I have
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:41:45PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary
Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection
Look, look, bad
On 31/05/2001 at 17:41 +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
You really only have to change LeftOf and RightOf to switch the monitors
around (which I did last time I moved desk as I went from having one
monitor to the left of the primary console monitor to having one monitor
to the right.)
You can't do
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into
one display?)
No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The
mouse moves between them as
KDE2's Konqueror browser is really, really impressive. Wow! Seems
quicker and less crashy than Mozilla. Now if only it played Flash
and Quicktime movies...
Mine does flash...
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dean wrote:
Question for the unix people on the list. I have an archive that's gzipped
up and contains either a number of small files or a single large file.
What's the easiest way to extract any given file? It has to use core modules
and anyone with a sample script can
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 06:56:21PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
Also for future reference does any one know a better way to do this than
Compress::Zlib, core or non-core.
I suppose
# tar -xzf [archivename] [filename/that/you.want]
is too easy .. I'm missing something again aren't I?
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 06:28:44PM +0100, Dean wrote:
Question for the unix people on the list. I have an archive that's gzipped
up and contains either a number of small files or a single large file.
Umm, *strokes beard* by archive you mean tar file, right? If so then
Archive::Tar looks
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 02:09:56PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
Technical Meeting: Thursday 21st June
Need a venue for this please people. And speakers. If any speakers want to
practise TPC or YAPC::E talks, then this might be a good time to do it.
Sure, I'd like to do Itcpbug as a
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game?
I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
is the problem.
/J\
Note that you can't overload constants this way, since this has to
happen during BEGIN time, but attributes are only evaluated at CHECK
time (at least as far as `Attribute::Handlers' is concerned).
Not so. At least not as of the next release.
Grab the beta from:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
is the problem.
If you book it, they will come.
--
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Chris Ball wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:27:19AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives
of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain
name registry with a neat web based management
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Leo Lapworth wrote:
You might want to check out:
Arron's Autodia - http://autodia.cuckoo.org/
It's not quite at the stage I think you are after
but I've lost track of what it can and can't do.
Last I heard they were putting it up to be
an candidate in the elections
Aaron Trevena wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Leo Lapworth wrote:
You might want to check out:
Arron's Autodia - http://autodia.cuckoo.org/
It's not quite at the stage I think you are after
but I've lost track of what it can and can't do.
Last I heard they were putting it up to be
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:28:25AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
my name is jon i have installed an irc client on my linux shell account can u tell
me where the c00lest irc places are like what server and channel and stuff u all use
so i can
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