On 6 Jul 2001, Steve Mynott wrote:
The limits we came up against were the number of connections (I think
you only had 255 threads internally)
Does anyone have any more information on this/links to places where I can
find out about this?
Thanks in advance.
Mark.
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* at 06/07 08:44 + Steve Mynott said:
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who said anything about free. MySQL is imply utter shite.
On the downside the SQL was pretty non-standard and encouraged use of
extensions which make it pretty much impossible to port it to any
other
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alex Page sent the following bits through the ether:
However, I'm trying to future-proof on this project, so
Let me put my extreme programming hat on. You're doing work for no
particular reason? You can predict the future? It's not going to turn
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Alex Page sent the following bits through the
Please credit the below quotes to the Manual.txt file
in the current MySQL distribution for (grrr) Win2k.
Lee
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On 6 Jul 2001, Steve Mynott wrote:
The limits we came up against were the number of connections (I think
you only had 255 threads internally)
Does anyone have any more information on
http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html
is the most detailed argument against mysql.
Mysql is a SQL interface to the filesystem, not a database. My
objection to Mysql is that it bills itself as a database and compares
itself to real databases when it's not. Its a toy database and
* at 06/07 10:01 +0100 Piers Cawley said:
Hmm... Everything I Know About Extreme Programming I Learned From
Watching Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It's a book title.
sounds like the book of the pub crawl[1] that is london.pm
struan
[1] a very leisurely pub crawl with long rests between pubs
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Oh bollocks. It does what it does very well.
ENoMoreFlameWars
Sensible discussion, yes. Reasoned points, yes. Balanced arguments, yes.
Personal experience, maybe. One line trolling, no.
That goes for you as well gellyfish.
simon
[not in the mood for it this morning]
Steve Mynott wrote:
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who said anything about free. MySQL is imply utter shite.
Nasty.
The only people whom appear to think this are those who use the wrong
tool for the wrong job.
I've never lost any data with mysql (and yes I have used it in
From: Lee Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What is extreme programming...? (Shudder.)
See http://www.extremeprogramming.org/.
It's great. We like it.
Dave...
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* at 06/07 08:44 + Steve Mynott said:
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who said anything about free. MySQL is imply utter shite.
On the downside the SQL was pretty
It seemed last night that people thought that the idea of having an extra
technical meeting in a couple of weeks time, so I'm looking for a venue for
Thursday 19th July. Also (obviously) need speakers. Prefernce will be given
to people who want to practice talks for TPC or YAPC::E.
I also heard
* at 06/07 10:32 +0100 Lee Goddard said:
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* at 06/07 08:44 + Steve Mynott said:
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who said anything about free. MySQL is imply utter
Mark Blackman wrote:
http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html
is the most detailed argument against mysql.
Is the most detailed argument of why MySQL is not ACID compliant.
Last I heard no database is ACID compliant, althought some are better
than others.
As yet an RDBMS does not
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Alex Page wrote:
Yep. Take one Oracle database, a collection of flatfiles with no relations
whatsoever, no primary keys, no consistency, no integrity, duplication,
replication, missing data, all that jazz, and a nice recursive schema
with about 20 tables, every one with
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Alex Page wrote:
Yep. Take one Oracle database, a collection of flatfiles with no relations
whatsoever, no primary keys, no consistency, no integrity, duplication,
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Sent: 06 July 2001 11:08
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM
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Sent: 06 July 2001 10:30
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You owe me a fiver, as you have obviously failed to remember the double or
quits game of you'll never remember this the next day we are playing (I
have witnesses that will back me up on this one.)
The problem being the day isn't over, and you've just
Mark Blackman wrote:
http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html
is the most detailed argument against mysql.
Is the most detailed argument of why MySQL is not ACID compliant.
Last I heard no database is ACID compliant, althought some are better
than others.
As yet an
Struan Donald wrote:
* at 06/07 11:51 +0100 Mark Blackman said:
Mark Blackman wrote:
http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html
is the most detailed argument against mysql.
Is the most detailed argument of why MySQL is not ACID compliant.
Last I heard no
* at 06/07 11:18 + Greg Cope said:
Struan Donald wrote:
not sure that mysql calls itself an RDBMS.
From section 1.1 of a recent manual
MySQL is a relational database management system.
A relational database stores data in separate tables rather than putting
all the data
What would be represent half an hours down time with a sensible system is
going to take all day with MySQL - WHY DO PEOPLE DO IT ?
Oh bollocks, you haven't thought hard enough about it.
Agreed. That is poor design on the part of the administrators, not the
DB. The administrators should
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 10:30:05AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
See http://www.extremeprogramming.org/.
It's great. We like it.
Anyone else going to XPuniverse? (www.xpuniverse.com)
Tony
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Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Greg Cope wrote:
Struan Donald wrote:
* at 06/07 11:51 +0100 Mark Blackman said:
Mark Blackman wrote:
http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html
is the most detailed argument against mysql.
Is the
I stoned - stone fall through paper, I win.
Actually, paper wraps stone so paper wins.
Redvers Davies wrote:
Pint for the first person to name the source.
The libretto from Rent.
On or about Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 01:35:18PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe typed:
Maybe I'm just blind and stupid but I cant find any description of the
schema in the database itself - I would be delighted to find that I could
do the equivalent of a 'select * from systables'.
It's probably not quite
Behalf Of Tony Bowden
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 10:30:05AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
See http://www.extremeprogramming.org/.
It's great. We like it.
Anyone else going to XPuniverse? (www.xpuniverse.com)
XP looks like it wasnt to look big; actually, it looks decidedly
MS - when's
On Friday 06 July 2001 11:09, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Oh bollocks. It does what it does very well.
ENoMoreFlameWars
come come .. the discussions may have been empassioned and strong
feelings have been expressed on various
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:09:25PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
for a number of years i've fancied entering the ICFP's competiton
http://cristal.inria.fr/ICFP2001/prog-contest/
with a Perl entry, would anyone else be interested in forming
a team?
Could be a laugh. It's worth bearing in
* at 19/06 22:01 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
right .. thats another mail on the long march to the top of the posting
ladder ;)
greg'll just 'break' his computer again :)
struan
reply
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* at 19/06 22:01 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
right .. thats another mail on the long march to the
this
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* at 19/06 22:01 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
right .. thats another mail on the long march to the
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i must of got back really early last night and went straight
to bed, because i can remember meeting some people at the
pub near linux expo and then nothing else
So can anyone remember what happened last night. I got stuck at work. Did I
miss anything?
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/07/06/1146230mode=thread
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On Friday 06 July 2001 13:35, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
Maybe I'm just blind and stupid but I cant find any description of the
schema in the database itself - I would be delighted to find that I
could do the equivalent of a 'select * from systables'.
umm just do
show tables;
and ...
From: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So can anyone remember what happened last night. I got stuck at work.
Did I
miss anything?
My little greggy didnt do any Elvis Impersonations
He did, you just went home too early to see them :) This was before and
after trying to persuade
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:12:06PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
umm just do
show tables;
and ...
describe $blah;
And also show create table $tablename to recreate the create command
(which is much easier than trying to piece it together from 'show tables',
which IIRC you can't reverse
Maybe someone has commented on this one before,
but I just saw August's FHM magazine.
Buffy is on the cover, holding a riding crop.
Just thought I'd bring the list back to it's natural focus
on a Friday afternoon.
Behalf Of Robin Szemeti
On Friday 06 July 2001 11:09, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Oh bollocks. It does what it does very well.
ENoMoreFlameWars
come come .. the discussions may have been empassioned and strong
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 04:15:11PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
No what ER Codd is after is that the schema is part of the database - I
dont think this is true of MySQL.
Indeed. But it doesn't. Where's the description of the various
relations?
Version 4 of MySQL supports the storage of
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
i can remember meeting some people at the pub near linux expo and
then nothing else
You owe me a fiver, as you have obviously failed to remember the double
* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:09:25PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
for a number of years i've fancied entering the ICFP's competiton
http://cristal.inria.fr/ICFP2001/prog-contest/
with a Perl entry, would anyone else be interested in forming
a
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 05:07:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also you're given 72 hours to do it in, so everyone would need to take
three days off work.
i think there is a special class for people who only want to spend
24 hours solving it -
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:42:47AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
And also show create table $tablename to recreate the create command
(which is much easier than trying to piece it together from 'show
tables', which IIRC you can't reverse engineer composite keys from)
ooh .. dint know that
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
i can remember meeting some people at the pub near linux expo and
then nothing else
You owe me a fiver, as
* Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On or about Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 07:29:47PM +0200, Paul Johnson typed:
Looks like it starts on Thursday afternoon too.
Now, if only there were a social meeting that day...
There is another option, we form a team[1] with people in different
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:40:47AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
That's a fault in the XP books as well, but to a far lesser extent. I've
read the first two books in the series (Extreme Programming Explained and
Extreme Programming Installed) and have just started the third (Planning
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:27:44AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Chris Devers wrote:
Now, is it worth buying a copy of DMWP as well for completeness (again, I
already have dead tree editions?) The Perl CD Bookshelf is in HTML
format, but I see DMWP is in PDF. Has anyone
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:50:32PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:27:44AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Chris Devers wrote:
Now, is it worth buying a copy of DMWP as well for completeness (again, I
already have dead tree editions?) The Perl CD
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:38:30AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
People flamed Alt-Tab-ing. Nothing got done.
Oddly enough it did, kind of. Thanks to the other paulm, I
downloaded LiteSwitch http://www.proteron.com/liteswitch/ and was
told by the author, upon asking, essentially patches welcome
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