Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Newton, Philip
Dean S Wilson wrote: > From: "Newton, Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Um, why not have the NMS folk take over maintenance of MSA, > > A win win situation. You get to ride on the fact that Matt's scripts > are already heavily used and still contribute to the quality of code. Well, assuming peo

vim+hardlinks

2002-01-27 Thread Richard Clamp
Possibly a dumb question, but googling doesn't seem to show up an answer. How do I get vim to do copy-on-write of files? I'm doing some rudimentary source management with cp -al foo foo-hck and expecting that when I edit foo-hck/bar.pm that it'll do what emacs does, write a new file called bar.p

Re: bad nasty evil thread

2002-01-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Robin Houston wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:38:06PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > I'm tempted to do a lightning talk (good practise for my viva) but I don't > > actually do anything astonishing Perl-wise, it's just the biology/methods > > that are quite fun. > > Oh

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: > But I don't want to say "Powered by nms Perl scripts" because I don't have > any perl scripts on my site. I'd like to say "use nms Perl scripts" or > something like that, something with text that matches typical search terms. > [no, not http://nms-cgi

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Chris Carline wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:44:06AM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > I think he read the interview with one of the Google blokes in last > > Thursday's Guardian Online for which I now can't find the link. > Anyway. Digressionary excuses aside, I've n

Re: Call for a volunteer

2002-01-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Chris Ball wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 09:51:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > So who fancies being the cat herder for this years YAPC::Europe > > London.pm hotel bookings. > > I think Lucy may have volunteered. And if she hasn't, I just did so for > her. Hah. Ga

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 06:47:26PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, David H. Adler wrote: > > > I am quite certain I've heard the phrase "gained notoriety" in a neutral > > sense, but I have no specifics handy, so I'll just go hide somewhere > > now. > > Well, it can be used in

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Chris Devers
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, David H. Adler wrote: > I am quite certain I've heard the phrase "gained notoriety" in a neutral > sense, but I have no specifics handy, so I'll just go hide somewhere > now. Well, it can be used in a 'positive' way, but usually it's in a context where ($bad == $good), as in

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 04:25:11PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:09:21PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:16:02PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > > > Notoriety in English has a negative connotation. > > > > It does? Are you sure you're

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:09:21PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:16:02PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > Notoriety in English has a negative connotation. > > It does? Are you sure you're not thinking of "notorious[ness]"? Probably > the same root, but, IMO somewh

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread David H. Adler
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:16:02PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Notoriety in English has a negative connotation. It does? Are you sure you're not thinking of "notorious[ness]"? Probably the same root, but, IMO somewhat different in meaning. Otherwise, uh... "name recognition"? dha -- Davi

Re: Open Certification

2002-01-27 Thread Jon Eyre
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Dave Cross wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:58:17AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > > There's nothing wrong with distance learning on a subject for your own > > self-recognized growth, but you won't get any kind of certification > > that mean

Re: Open Certification

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Cross
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:58:17AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > There's nothing wrong with distance learning on a subject for your own > self-recognized growth, but you won't get any kind of certification > that means a darn to the community without Larry's blessing,

Re: Open Certification

2002-01-27 Thread Tony Bowden
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:58:17AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Alex> How can the education and certification model of the Open University > Alex> be applied to Perl? > Randal>> It can't. See . > Tony> I fail to see what that node has to do

Re: Call for a volunteer

2002-01-27 Thread Chris Ball
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 09:51:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > So who fancies being the cat herder for this years YAPC::Europe > London.pm hotel bookings. I think Lucy may have volunteered. And if she hasn't, I just did so for her. Hah. > There is plenty of german beer in it for you. Mmm,

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Dean S Wilson
- Original Message - From: "Newton, Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Um, why not have the NMS folk take over maintenance of MSA, A win win situation. You get to ride on the fact that Matt's scripts are already heavily used and still contribute to the quality of code. That also saves you all

Re: Open Certification

2002-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Tony" == Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 09:57:22PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> > "Alex" == Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alex> How can the education and certification model of the Open University Alex> be applied to Perl? >> It can

Re: Open Certification

2002-01-27 Thread Tony Bowden
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 09:57:22PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Alex" == Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alex> How can the education and certification model of the Open University > Alex> be applied to Perl? > It can't. See .

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Cross
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 12:45:19AM -0800, Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I don't know what other people feel, or what else was said in the email > or the circumstances, but I think I'd be pretty pissed off right now if > I found someone posting my private email to a public mailing li

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
I don't know what other people feel, or what else was said in the email or the circumstances, but I think I'd be pretty pissed off right now if I found someone posting my private email to a public mailing list, especially stuff that could be construed as detrimental to the view held by others of m

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Cross
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 01:16:39PM +, Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 07:07:04AM +, Dave Cross wrote: > > I've got email from Matt Wright. He says > > Cool! Nice one, Dave. > > Now, why not ask him to update his home page (which scores #1 in google > fo