Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Nigel Hamilton
HI Mark, So, > > It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project > radar for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." > > I think it depends on your write/read ratio. If it is read heavy then replication and/or memcache will probably do the trick - on th

Mobile broadband

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Cozens
I'm coming back to the UK in January and will be moving around a lot until we buy a house in May. Some of the places we'll be going won't have Internet access and I think I'll need it to work, (anyone know of any telecommute Perl contracts then, please let me know...) so I'm thinking about getting

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On 2008-12-19 00:55, "Peter Corlett" wrote: > On 18 Dec 2008, at 21:12, James Laver wrote: > [...] >> I'm told by some london.pmers that nothing exists north of Watford >> or south >> of Wimbledon. Surely, then, these maps are fantasy? > > They are mistaken. There is nothing north of Hampstead n

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Corlett
On 18 Dec 2008, at 21:12, James Laver wrote: [...] I'm told by some london.pmers that nothing exists north of Watford or south of Wimbledon. Surely, then, these maps are fantasy? They are mistaken. There is nothing north of Hampstead nor south of the Thames. Likewise, there are only dragons

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 18 Dec 2008, at 23:24, Luis Motta Campos wrote: If I may have a say about that, can we have something closer, and maybe more traditional? It might be quite a while until I have a good opportunity to attend a social meeting, and being this far away from London sounds a bit lame... :)

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 18 Dec 2008, at 16:45, Dave Cross wrote: The heretics meeting will be on January 1st. For those without a passport and thus unable to attend the 1st Jan meeting abroad, if there are sufficient numbers (more than one) I shall host something in the north-western corn

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:45:37PM +, Dave Cross wrote: The heretics meeting will be on January 1st. Please pay no attention to the DEVILS in our midst. All right-minded perl-mongers know that our OFFICIAL, ORTHODOX meetings are on the first Thursday of the month, a

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Bob Walker
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Luis Motta Campos wrote: I am staying at the Luxury Inn, 154 Tottenham Rd, and there will be Internet connection there. If you're interested in showing me some nice english pub and some nice english beers, please let me know. insert mandatory plug for rgl. http://london.r

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 18 Dec 2008, at 16:45, Dave Cross wrote: The heretics meeting will be on January 1st. For those without a passport and thus unable to attend the 1st Jan meeting abroad, if there are sufficient numbers (more than one) I shall host something in the north-western corner of Zone 1 with an amb

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On 2008-12-18 20:40, "David Cantrell" wrote: > > We do now! > > Seeing that no-one will be working on that day or the day after, I've > decided that we'll go a bit further afield this time, and visit this > pub: > http://www.thedorsetlewes.com/ No-one? Two of us will be playing scrabble in^W^

Re: Sample answers to Christmas Quiz

2008-12-18 Thread Philip Newton
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 19:58, David Alban wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Chris Jack wrote: >> 4) How many different variable types are there in Perl? Be as sensibly >> voluminous in your answer as you are > able. >> >> >> have been asked this in more interviews that I care to recal

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:45:37PM +, Dave Cross wrote: > The heretics meeting will be on January 1st. Please pay no attention to the DEVILS in our midst. All right-minded perl-mongers know that our OFFICIAL, ORTHODOX meetings are on the first Thursday of the month, and consequently there wi

Re: Sample answers to Christmas Quiz

2008-12-18 Thread David Alban
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Chris Jack wrote: > 4) How many different variable types are there in Perl? Be as sensibly > voluminous in your answer as you are > able. > > > have been asked this in more interviews that I care to recall and generally > interviewers seem to be looking > for 3

Sample answers to Christmas Quiz

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Jack
Having written the quiz, and as actual answers seem to have faded to a trickle, I thought I ought to offer some sample answers of my own. Apologies ahead of time for any line break issues - but I have tried my hardest to avoid them! 1) Name as many different reasons Larry Wall has given for ho

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Wistow
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:19:06AM +, Mark Fowler said: > What's the collective group think on these? Obviously (for this list, at > least) the app that will be accessing the database is Perl based, so I'm > only considering compatible technologies at the moment. We use Data::ObjectDriver w

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Andy Wardley wrote: > Hmm... it appears to work OK for me on FF (3.0.4 Mac) > > I've explicitly added a white background to the #body div on top to see if > that helps. But I'm playing blind here so you'll need to be my eyes. > >> Oh, and it works fine for me with

Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Dave Cross
Luis Motta Campos wrote: > I will be in London for the first time ever between the afternoon of > the 28th of December and the morning of the 4th of January. As Thrusday > the 1st is a Social Meeting, I wonder if there will be one, or if I > should ask around for some nice Londoners for an emerge

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Wardley
James Laver wrote: Quick investigation with firebug tells me that firefox thinks the background the text is on is some darkish orange/brown so it chose a nice white background to help it stand out... I assume it's some bizarre div stacking bug. Hmm... it appears to work OK for me on FF (3.0.4 M

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > 2008/12/18 James Laver : >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Andy Wardley wrote: >>> Behold! >>> >>> http://london.pm.org/ >>> >>> There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. >>> >>> A >>> >> >> Brilliant stuff! Look

Any Restaurant Recommendations for New's Year on London? And maybe some clubbing?

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
Hoy, Londoners. For the very first time since I started writing to this list, in 2002, I will be at London for the New Year's Eve. I am looking for a place to have dinner and see the fireworks near The London Eye, would appreciate if you can point me to a place where stills possible to make

Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
I will be in London for the first time ever between the afternoon of the 28th of December and the morning of the 4th of January. As Thrusday the 1st is a Social Meeting, I wonder if there will be one, or if I should ask around for some nice Londoners for an emergency social. Sad to say that I

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Léon Brocard
2008/12/18 Andy Wardley : > Behold! > > http://london.pm.org/ This is wonderful! Thanks for your hard work, Andy. Léon

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Jacqui Caren
Mark Fowler wrote: So, It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project radar for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." Standard consultant question: Why? "go faster/scale up" is not a good reason. If you just wanted to go faster you would have

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
Simon Wilcox wrote: > proudtouseperl isn't a site that a manager or other person deciding > about perl is likely to come across. We need a success site that is very > visible, linked from perl.org and high up on the search rankings. Thanks for that. You really gave me a lot more fuel to keep writi

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Luis Motta Campos
Denny wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 10:06 +, Denny wrote: >> If you have any tales of high-profile, large-scale, or otherwise >> interesting Perl systems you've deployed recently then we'd love to hear >> them. > > It's been pointed out to me that projects which were not started > recently, a

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Aaron Trevena
2008/12/18 Denny : > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 10:25 +, Dave Cross wrote: >> Denny wrote: >> > Inspired by this month's discussions about Perl community websites, >> > we* have started Yet Another Perl Website. >> >> Sounds like a similar idea to http://proudtouseperl.org/. > > So it does! Damn yo

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Andy Wardley : > Behold! > > http://london.pm.org/ > Yay! That's groovy ;-)

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 James Laver : > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Andy Wardley wrote: >> Behold! >> >> http://london.pm.org/ >> >> There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. >> >> A >> > > Brilliant stuff! Looks much improved! > > One thing I've just noticed is that I can't seem

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > 2008/12/18 Martin A. Brooks : >> Mark Fowler wrote: >>> >>> "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." >> >> Is that when you throw it against the wall really, really, hard? > > Or make the DBAs roll naked in a bathtub of broken glass

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Mark Fowler wrote: > > So, > > It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project radar > for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." There's a bunch of articles on Flickr out there, this one seems pretty decent, http:/

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Andy Wardley wrote: > Behold! > > http://london.pm.org/ > > There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. > > A > Brilliant stuff! Looks much improved! One thing I've just noticed is that I can't seem to select text in the main body of the p

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Huxton
Jonathan Stowe wrote: > 2008/12/18 Martin A. Brooks : >> Mark Fowler wrote: >>> "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." >> Is that when you throw it against the wall really, really, hard? > > Or make the DBAs roll naked in a bathtub of broken glass until they > sort the performance proble

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Huxton
Andy Wardley wrote: > Behold! > > http://london.pm.org/ Awful! It's barely readable on Netscape 2.0! Seriously - good work. Does the new site mean we'll all have to shave, wear polo-necks and drink frappucinos or some such? > There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now.

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Martin A. Brooks : > Mark Fowler wrote: >> >> "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." > > Is that when you throw it against the wall really, really, hard? Or make the DBAs roll naked in a bathtub of broken glass until they sort the performance problems out.

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 18 Dec 2008, at 12:39, Andy Wardley wrote: Behold! http://london.pm.org/ Lovely! -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Huxton
Andy Wardley wrote: > Mark Fowler wrote: >> What's the collective group think on these? > > There's a good series of articles on sharding starting here: > > http://lifescaler.com/2008/04/database-sharding-unraveled-part-i/ > > The conclusion I drew from it was that functional partitioning > (whe

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Mark Fowler wrote: "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." Is that when you throw it against the wall really, really, hard?

It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Wardley
Behold! http://london.pm.org/ There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. A

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Dave Hodgkinson : > > "sharding" is a horrible term. > But the computing 2.0 neophytes have to have obscure neologisms - it would be an affront to their freedom of thought to use a term that everyone else understands.

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: HK Diner

2008-12-18 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2008/12/18 Léon Brocard : >> >> HK Diner >> 22 Wardour Street >> Chinatown, >> London W1D 6QQ >> Leicester Square Tube Station >> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W1D6QQ >> http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/reviews/9306.html >> http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?HK_Diner%2C_W1D_6QJ > >

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 18 Dec 2008, at 10:19, Mark Fowler wrote: So, It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project radar for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." There's really good stuff in the Sybase Unleashed book on horizontal and vertical partitioning

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Wardley
Mark Blackman wrote: What remains for this shininess to be made live? The gate keeper of the London.pm fortress hath just this hour granted me access after much wrangling with the dragons of ssh and walls of fire. Verily now that I have entered shall I proceed to make shiny the castle walls.

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Wardley
Mark Fowler wrote: What's the collective group think on these? There's a good series of articles on sharding starting here: http://lifescaler.com/2008/04/database-sharding-unraveled-part-i/ The conclusion I drew from it was that functional partitioning (where possible) was much easier to impl

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Blackman
On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:46, Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/12/18 Mark Blackman : On 14 Dec 2008, at 18:33, Andy Wardley wrote: Léon Brocard wrote: Andy, care to put your changes live? All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. What remains for this shininess to be made li

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Mark Blackman : > On 14 Dec 2008, at 18:33, Andy Wardley wrote: > >> Léon Brocard wrote: >>> >>> Andy, care to put your changes live? >>> >> >> All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. > > What remains for this shininess to be made live? Well the only remaining imp

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Blackman
On 14 Dec 2008, at 18:33, Andy Wardley wrote: Léon Brocard wrote: Andy, care to put your changes live? All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. What remains for this shininess to be made live? - Mark

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 10:25 +, Dave Cross wrote: > Denny wrote: > > Inspired by this month's discussions about Perl community websites, > > we* have started Yet Another Perl Website. > > Sounds like a similar idea to http://proudtouseperl.org/. So it does! Damn your prior art! :) So, peopl

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Wilcox
Dave Cross wrote: Denny wrote: Inspired by this month's discussions about Perl community websites, we* have started Yet Another Perl Website. Sounds like a similar idea to http://proudtouseperl.org/. I guess it is. /me goes looking. I feel a bit deflated that we've done a load of work that

Re: Perl Christmas Quiz

2008-12-18 Thread Philip Newton
2008/12/18 Paul LeoNerd Evans : > On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:54:40 +0100 > "Philip Newton" wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:47, Torsten Knorr wrote: >> > Who is Haiku? >> >> Not who; what. >> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku > > Or maybe you'll find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku more

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Leo Lapworth
2008/12/18 Mark Fowler > It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project > radar for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." I came across this and noted it for future reference: http://spockproxy.sourceforge.net/ - doh, just read the rest of your e

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Dave Cross
Denny wrote: > Inspired by this month's discussions about Perl community websites, we* > have started Yet Another Perl Website. Sounds like a similar idea to http://proudtouseperl.org/. Dave...

Re: Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 10:06 +, Denny wrote: > If you have any tales of high-profile, large-scale, or otherwise > interesting Perl systems you've deployed recently then we'd love to hear > them. It's been pointed out to me that projects which were not started recently, and which are still going

Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Fowler
So, It's nearly the new year and the time for new projects. On my project radar for next year is "consider (better) sharding our MySQL database." Now I understand the basic principles behind this and can, if needs be, implement my own wheel, but before I do I'd love to find out what ever

Perl success stories

2008-12-18 Thread Denny
Inspired by this month's discussions about Perl community websites, we* have started Yet Another Perl Website. We're aiming to collect Perl success stories - similar to those O'Reilly used to gather here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/perl/news/success_stories.html The intention is to p

Perl Email Project wiki

2008-12-18 Thread Zbigniew Lukasiak
I have a vague idea that this project is somehow london.pm related - so I hope this is a good way to report that since yesterday the main wiki page (http://emailproject.perl.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page) displays a database error: A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: HK Diner

2008-12-18 Thread Avleen Vig
On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:10, "Léon Brocard" wrote: 2008/12/16 Léon Brocard : We've been out a bit west recently, so it's time to head back into Chinatown and try a restaurant I've been meaning to visit. As I failed to point out earlier, today is also the 21st Birthday of Perl! $ perldoc per

Re: Perl Christmas Quiz

2008-12-18 Thread Paul LeoNerd Evans
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:54:40 +0100 "Philip Newton" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:47, Torsten Knorr wrote: > > Who is Haiku? > > Not who; what. > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku Or maybe you'll find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku more useful :) -- Paul "LeoNerd" Evans leon.

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: HK Diner

2008-12-18 Thread Léon Brocard
2008/12/16 Léon Brocard : > We've been out a bit west recently, so it's time to head back into > Chinatown and try a restaurant I've been meaning to visit. As I failed to point out earlier, today is also the 21st Birthday of Perl! $ perldoc perlhist | grep 1.000 | head -1 Larry 1.000