On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Kieren Diment wrote:
On 10/03/2009, at 10:44 AM, Chris Devers wrote:
On Mar 9, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote:
Sorry mate, it's just the way you tell them
So then he clears his throat and tries another:
..Pi?
Long pause.
Then.
Raucous
Kieren Diment wrote:
On 10/03/2009, at 10:44 AM, Chris Devers wrote:
On Mar 9, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote:
Sorry mate, it's just the way you tell them
So then he clears his throat and tries another:
..Pi?
Long pause.
Then.
Raucous laughter!
We've never
On 10/03/2009, at 9:00 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
Kieren Diment wrote:
On 10/03/2009, at 10:44 AM, Chris Devers wrote:
On Mar 9, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org
wrote:
Sorry mate, it's just the way you tell them
So then he clears his throat and tries another:
..Pi?
I have news of new restaurants opening in Chinatown. New restaurants
that we have not been to. This can not be allowed to happen, we must
go to Golden Harvest forthwith!
London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an
Has anyone found the recession/depression affecting contracting rates? I was
surprised to have a recruiter recently suggest a bunch of candidates
for £375/day
(each :-)). This seems on the high side, even outside of the economic blues.
I guess what also tweaked me was that every single one of
2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
Has anyone found the recession/depression affecting contracting rates? I was
surprised to have a recruiter recently suggest a bunch of candidates
for £375/day
(each :-)). This seems on the high side, even outside of the economic blues.
I guess what
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Stowe
j...@integration-house.comwrote:
2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
Has anyone found the recession/depression affecting contracting rates? I
was
surprised to have a recruiter recently suggest a bunch of candidates
for £375/day
(each
2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
Has anyone found the recession/depression affecting contracting rates?
A bit, yes, although *touch wood* there does seem to be a slight
increase in the availability of telework and part onsite jobs and
contracts - whether this is a case of businesses
2009/3/10 Aaron Trevena aaron.trev...@gmail.com:
2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
..
I guess what also tweaked me was that every single one of these guys was
going for the exact same rate whereas without a doubt they are not all
equally skilled. While I don't expect we have accurate
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
It's the recruiter doing it - the poor sap candidates are probably
getting 300 or less and will have been told that is the most that the
client is going to pay. The recruiter doesn't care, they might start
introducing a differential depending on whether they can drive the
On 10/3/09 17:07, Dirk Koopman wrote:
£300? Don't be daft. A lot of recruiters wouldn't get out of bed for
~25%, they will be looking for at least %50 (and in the bad old days
100%). I would not be surprised if the saps are being offered £200 in
these difficult times.
Which is why I'm very
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk wrote:
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
It's the recruiter doing it - the poor sap candidates are probably
getting 300 or less and will have been told that is the most that the
client is going to pay. The recruiter doesn't care, they might
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 18:12, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
I saw this today[1], advertising for a pretty impressive list of skills for
£175/day.
[snip]
[1] http://www.jobsite.co.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.pl?selection=931442513
Now down to £150/day.
Cheers,
--
Philip Newton
Philip Newton wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 18:12, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
I saw this today[1], advertising for a pretty impressive list of skills for
£175/day.
[snip]
[1] http://www.jobsite.co.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.pl?selection=931442513
Now down to £150/day.
Ah, no. My
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com wrote:
At the risk of jumping to the defence of a recruiter(!!), this chap
seems pretty straight up and quoted that his cut is 50quid/day.
Chances are he's lying.
I've noticed recently that SNR of calls has dropped massively, that
Quoting Philip Newton (philip.new...@gmail.com):
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 18:12, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
I saw this today[1], advertising for a pretty impressive list of skills for
?175/day.
[snip]
[1] http://www.jobsite.co.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.pl?selection=931442513
Now down
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:39:21PM +0100, Merijn Broeren wrote:
Quoting Philip Newton (philip.new...@gmail.com):
Now down to ?150/day.
Working 200 days a day, multiplies out to a naive Bulgarian worker who
hasn't eyed up the cost of London living yet?
There are *plenty* of people in London
David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk writes:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:39:21PM +0100, Merijn Broeren wrote:
Quoting Philip Newton (philip.new...@gmail.com):
Now down to ?150/day.
Working 200 days a day, multiplies out to a naive Bulgarian worker who
hasn't eyed up the cost of London living
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:39:21PM +0100, Merijn Broeren wrote:
Quoting Philip Newton (philip.new...@gmail.com):
Now down to ?150/day.
Working 200 days a day, multiplies out to a naive Bulgarian worker who
On 10/3/09 17:07, Dirk Koopman wrote:
?300? Don't be daft. A lot of recruiters wouldn't get out of bed for
~25%, they will be looking for at least %50 (and in the bad old days
100%). I would not be surprised if the saps are being offered ?200 in
these difficult times
This was
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com wrote:
I think the truth about agencies is also that they are tending to amalgamate
and there are fewer mom and pop style places around - which in turn means
they tend to be run more professionally and with a greater sense of
On 10 Mar 2009, at 18:15, Chris Jack wrote:
The truth is, once you've been had once in this way, you ask what
your agent is taking and refuse contracts where the rake is
excessive. This in itself acts as a brake on agencies taking the
Michael. I think 17.5% is fairly usual in the city
On Mar 10, 2009, at 17:07, Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk wrote:
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
It's the recruiter doing it - the poor sap candidates are probably
getting 300 or less and will have been told that is the most that the
client is going to pay. The recruiter doesn't care, they might start
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