Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-30 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 27 May 2011 02:58, David Cantrell wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 05:25:01PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > >> Unless things have changed dramatically ActiveMQ has many, many features >> pretty much all poorly documented in the typical ASF/Java project >> fashion (i.e

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-26 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 05:25:01PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > Unless things have changed dramatically ActiveMQ has many, many features > pretty much all poorly documented in the typical ASF/Java project > fashion (i.e a poorly maintained wiki referencing multiple versions of >

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-26 Thread Simon Wistow
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 05:25:01PM +0100, me said: > My experience is a few years old and it's very possible things have > changed now Apparently not http://goodstuff.im/activemq-not-ready-for-prime-time Money quote: "I recommended ActiveMQ to a client [...] (and) I

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-26 Thread Simon Wistow
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 03:18:27PM +1000, Toby Wintermute said: > By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting > with it from Perl? My experience is a few years old and it's very possible things have changed now but, given a choice between working with Act

Re: ActiveMQ

2011-05-26 Thread Dirk Koopman
On 26/05/11 01:26, Daniel Pittman wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 15:55, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote: Anyone here who used Spread recently? […] If I had to pick a "does as little as possible" low level library, 0mq looks like the best available choice, but it provides next to *nothing* in terms

Re: ActiveMQ

2011-05-25 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 15:55, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote: > On 2011-05-25 19:33, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 02:10, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote: >>> On 2011-05-25 09:19, James Laver wrote: On 24 May 2011, at 06:31, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >>> Anyone here who used Spread recentl

Re: ActiveMQ

2011-05-25 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol
CPU. ...CPU load on the network was comparable to the load on ActiveMQ systems under similar load. Spread isn't really much different otherwise in terms of either speed, or being "lower level" (in either the sense of being better for, or worse for, that. ;) I still expect it to be l

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread Daniel Pittman
1 release at the time, though, so I have no idea if 4.0 or 4.1 improve on that. > It is supposed to be faster, lower level, taking < 1% CPU. ...CPU load on the network was comparable to the load on ActiveMQ systems under similar load. Spread isn't really much different otherwise in te

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread Daniel Pittman
rks and clustering. Rabbit is no where near prime > time for that yet. That is pretty much it: I would absolutely recommend RabbitMQ if you don't need to scale, but ActiveMQ is the only robust choice I found if you do need those things. (For some values of clustering, obviously, given the E

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol
sonal experience of using ActiveMQ is "don't: it'll cause you headache after headache". The same could be said of RabbitMQ, but we were doing some fairly tediously complicated stuff there (stuff that I believe would be impossible under ActiveMQ). Having watched people fight

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread Dean Wilson
t; My personal experience of using ActiveMQ is "don't: it'll cause you > headache after headache". I don't do much with Net::STOMP (but it works for my basic cases) but we do quite a lot with multi-dc resilient broker networks with clients in Ruby and Java (and some perl)

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 25 May 2011, at 03:57, Toby Wintermute wrote: > > Quickly updating this -- further investigation shows that ActiveMQ's > behaviour is to take any ACK to mean you're acknowledging everything > sent so far. If you don't ACK anything, or the recent things, then > it'll happily store and resend th

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-25 Thread James Laver
On 24 May 2011, at 06:31, Daniel Pittman wrote: > It is, presently, the best of the options out there in terms of scale You mean apart from RabbitMQ? Rabbit is also the most full-featured of any of the free message queues I've come across. My personal experience of using ActiveMQ i

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-24 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 24 May 2011 19:53, Toby Wintermute wrote: > On 24 May 2011 15:18, Toby Wintermute wrote: >> On 23 May 2011 21:07, Peter Edwards wrote: >>> Back to fighting with ActiveMQ. Feh. >> >> By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting >>

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Edwards
Actually we are running ActiveMQ 5.4.0 in production although latest is 5.4.2 on that branch and 5.5.0 is now also available. http://activemq.apache.org/ https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12311210&version=12315623 Yet more "Java leaking memory" bugfix

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Corlett
On 24 May 2011, at 06:18, Toby Wintermute wrote: > On 23 May 2011 21:07, Peter Edwards wrote: >> Back to fighting with ActiveMQ. Feh. > By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting > with it from Perl? AFAICS, it seems to work best through the STOMP supp

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Edwards
> > By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting > > with it from Perl? > > I'm using it from Net::Stomp which had issues but now (version 0.40 on) works fine for us. Historically, ActiveMQ had problems with memory leaks though 5.3 works fine

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-24 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 24 May 2011 15:18, Toby Wintermute wrote: > On 23 May 2011 21:07, Peter Edwards wrote: >> Back to fighting with ActiveMQ. Feh. > > By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting > with it from Perl? Answering my own question a bit here, but I have

Re: ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-23 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 22:18, Toby Wintermute wrote: > On 23 May 2011 21:07, Peter Edwards wrote: >> Back to fighting with ActiveMQ. Feh. > > By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting > with it from Perl? FWIW, we find it scales fairly eff

ActiveMQ (was Re: Devel::Cover with Moose?)

2011-05-23 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 23 May 2011 21:07, Peter Edwards wrote: > Back to fighting with ActiveMQ. Feh. By the way.. how are you finding ActiveMQ, especially when interacting with it from Perl? I've been recommended to use it for a project at work, but I don't think the recommender has actually used i

ActiveMQ Magical Mystery Tour - The 4096 Edition

2010-11-22 Thread Chisel
Hi everyone; apologies for being vaguely on-topic. We're having fun with ActiveMQ and messages where the Net::Stomp frame reaches 4096 characters. Although it's quite wordy, the internal investigation below describes the problem far better than I could manage at this time on a Monday.