On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 03:31:56PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 02:28:15PM +, Joel Bernstein wrote:
From LU's website
There are many reasons why signals fail.
In the case of the eastern end of the Jubilee Line, because the
constructors were told to take their
Abigail wrote:
OTOH, goverment can ever screw up if they have too much money for
signalling. There's going to be a high speed train line between Amsterdam
in Brussels, taking the Netherlands out of the 19th century.
It's not that bad a journey and even as it stands now it's *way* better
than
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:05 , Abigail wrote:
How long will the journey be once they've finished it ?
Eventually, when the trains run at full speed over the entire leg,
about 2.5 hours. But I think that initially, if the first trains
start running over the high speed line, it'll be around 3h20m.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:39:07AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
Over here, the goverment only wants to best and newest. So everything
is delayed and over budget. However, the tracks have been ready for quite
a while. Even the signalling is installed. The newest and greatest signalling.
Decised upon
On Jan 30, 2009, at 14:26 , Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:39:07AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
Over here, the goverment only wants to best and newest. So everything
is delayed and over budget. However, the tracks have been ready for
quite
a while. Even the signalling is installed.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:00:54PM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote:
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:05 , Abigail wrote:
How long will the journey be once they've finished it ?
Eventually, when the trains run at full speed over the entire leg,
about 2.5 hours. But I think that initially, if the first trains
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:26:23PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:39:07AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
Over here, the goverment only wants to best and newest. So everything
is delayed and over budget. However, the tracks have been ready for quite
a while. Even the
Abigail writes:
Ah, yes, the French. They have T-shirts saying Shut the fuck up and
build some train tracks.
Not in .nl. We just talk for years. Then change the plans because
[snip tale of woe]
Unlike the UK rail network, where the default position seems to be to
avoid building new lines
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:14:39PM +, Aaron Crane wrote:
Unlike the UK rail network, where the default position seems to be to
avoid building new lines entirely, and to repair the existing ones
only when spurred to by horrific accidents. Instead, money we *could*
use for such things is
Abigail wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:26:23PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:39:07AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
Over here, the goverment only wants to best and newest. So everything
is delayed and over budget. However, the tracks have been ready for quite
a while.
Aaron Crane wrote:
Abigail writes:
Ah, yes, the French. They have T-shirts saying Shut the fuck up and
build some train tracks.
Not in .nl. We just talk for years. Then change the plans because
[snip tale of woe]
Unlike the UK rail network, where the default position seems to be to
avoid
Chris Jack wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
No, its a, um, er, Django shop.
You wouldn't be a coffin-dragging gunslinger by any chance?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060315/
I prefer the Japanese remake: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0906665/
2009/1/5 David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk:
Get a bike.
And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard like *me* says
that.
For some reason, this reminds me of:
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~craigm/challenge.shtml
Although yes, that's Glasgow. Zone 50 million.
Adrian.
On 29 Jan 2009, at 10:00, Adrian Lai wrote:
[...]
For some reason, this reminds me of:
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~craigm/challenge.shtml
There's also the one where you get off a City-bound service at Fulham
Broadway and run the two miles to Sloane Square and catch it again.
Presumably one
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
On 29 Jan 2009, at 10:00, Adrian Lai wrote:
[...]
For some reason, this reminds me of:
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~craigm/challenge.shtml
There's also the one where you get off a City-bound service at Fulham
Broadway
2009/1/29 James Laver james.la...@gmail.com:
Are signal failures still driver ignored signal or is the signal
quality on the district line actually that appalling
From LU's website
There are many reasons why signals fail. However, in many cases, the
signalling system itself is working
2009/1/29 Joel Bernstein j...@fysh.org:
cases of rodents chewing through
cables, turning signals to red!
And I always get the impression that there are more rodents on the
district and circle lines whenever I'm on there :-)
/J\
--
http://rabidgravy.com/ - Music
http://gellyfish.co.uk/ -
On 29 Jan 2009, at 14:13, James Laver wrote:
[...]
Are signal failures still driver ignored signal or is the signal
quality on the district line actually that appalling (athough given
that at Earl's Court, it doesn't know there's a train coming until
it's sat at the platform, this wouldn't
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:39:47 +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
And don't forget fixed gear :-) http://paulm.com/cycling/fixed_gear.html
You don't a gear at all if you only have one wheel. I have been having
trouble getting up the big hill on my way home from work since I put
shorter cranks on my
Avleen Vig wrote:
What a strange coincedence. I start at a Django shop on Monday, also!
Yours isn't up around Soho is it?
No; Notting Hill Gate. If it was around Soho I would be walking instead
of Tubing :)
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
2009/1/5 David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, Jasper wrote:
Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid,
like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't see
you. You do get the odd shit of a bus driver, too.
David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, Jasper wrote:
And please assemble your mechano *carefully*! I've seen two foldy
things spontaneously fold themselves, both times mere feet in front of
rather large vehicles.
The Brompton has a rather clever feature in that it
On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:06, Jasper wrote:
[...]
I meant the ones who, in their 50m long bendy buses, drive past you
and then cut right over, forcing you a) onto the pavement, and b) to
catch up and get onto the bus threatening to drag them off physically
and beat them to a pulp.
If the driver is
Nicholas Clark wrote:
So we will all have to ask you what it's like...
Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/
No, its a, um, er, Django shop.
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:16:53AM +, David Dorward wrote:
David Dorward wrote:
Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday.
Nice choice :)
No! My brain is not functioning! The 8th is before next Monday!
Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +,
the following was promulgated by Jasper:
Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid,
like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't see
you. You do get the odd shit of a bus driver, too.
I think everyone
2009/1/5 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't
Sue Spence wrote:
I'm just kidding of course. Congrats.
Thanks
Work is good, and so are new experiences
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time.
Is that good?
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com wrote:
Robert Shiels wrote:
I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion -
I had a go on Paul's a few years ago and even though I'm only a couple of
inches taller than he is (I'm 6' 4) it made a huge
On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:13, Paul Makepeace wrote:
[...]
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to
ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London.
Although if one is built like a typical programmer note that Notting
Hill is actually on top of a
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 14:13 +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London.
P, one minor accident in six years; 6,000+miles covered; god knows how much
time saved
I was
On 2009-01-05 13:06, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
Sue Spence wrote:
I'm just kidding of course. Congrats.
Thanks
Work is good, and so are new experiences
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time.
Is that good?
It certainly qualifies as an
On 5 Jan 2009, at 13:06, David Dorward wrote:
[...]
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first
time. Is that good?
That lovely yellow circle on the Tube map looks awfully convenient to
get around central London, but don't be tempted. What with passenger
incidents,
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London.
Seconded. Advice from a relatively new cyclist on request, or distilled
at
Paul Makepeace wrote:
Cool. As a two-time Strida owner I can assure you they are most
certainly _not_ gimmick bikes, esp. considering they've won a whole
bunch of folding competitions beating Bromptons for folding speed
I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion -
Robert Shiels wrote:
I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion -
I had a go on Paul's a few years ago and even though I'm only a couple
of inches taller than he is (I'm 6' 4) it made a huge amount of
difference, from really useful to very unstable with my knees
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:53 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
Peter Corlett wrote:
I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route planner
comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses. (When enabled, it
seems to prefer to route people via bus where
On 5 Jan 2009, at 15:36, Jasper wrote:
2009/1/5 Tony Kennick 0995a06aaeaf6b70e79c3aafd6719...@half.pint.org.uk
:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +,
the following was promulgated by Jasper:
Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything
stupid,
like riding up the
2009/1/5 Tony Kennick 0995a06aaeaf6b70e79c3aafd6719...@half.pint.org.uk:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +,
the following was promulgated by Jasper:
Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid,
like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't
Nicholas Clark wrote:
Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a social on the 3rd
Thursday of the month?
No, it thought that the Thursday after the first Wednesday of this month
takes place in a week and a half's time.
Or your ultra-orthodox brain thinks that there should be a
Peter Corlett wrote:
Although if one is built like a typical programmer note that Notting
Hill is actually on top of a hill, and it's not just a pretty place name.
Eeep. :)
Also, I would assume that the journey doesn't actually start in
Waterloo, but on an incoming South West Cattletruck
On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:17, Joel Bernstein wrote:
[...]
Rush hour on the deeplying tube lines is harmful to sanity.
Be tall, large, wearing lots of black, carry earplugs and a solid
book, and not be afraid to trample over people to get a seat, then
they're just fine.
If you think the
* at 05/01 14:39 + Paul Makepeace said:
If you're going multi-modal folding bikes are the only way to go, IMO.
(I've heard awful things about Dahon though, btw.)
FWIW: I had a terrible experience with Bikefix, to the point of having
me give them another, rhyming name...
The advice I had
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:02:05AM +, David Dorward wrote:
Edmund von der Burg wrote:
Where are we going then?
I've always liked this place:
http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/antelope.html
Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday.
Nice choice :)
Work is good, and so are new experiences
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time.
Is that good?
It certainly qualifies as an experience...*
Hmmm... in the sense, Experience is what you get, when you don't get what you
want.
--
Randy J. Ray Sunnyvale,
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
Nicholas Clark wrote:
So we will all have to ask you what it's like...
Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/
No, its a, um, er, Django shop.
sharp intake of breath
I'm just kidding
Peter Corlett wrote:
I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route
planner comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses. (When
enabled, it seems to prefer to route people via bus where possible,
presumably for traffic engineering or revenue maximisation reasons.)
2009/1/5 David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk:
The alternatives would be, IIRC, to take the N. Line to TCR then change to
the central line, or to take the Jubilee from Waterloo and get to the
central line from there. (Target: Notting Hill Gate).
Have you considered a bicycle? Perhaps a folding
David Dorward wrote:
Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday.
Nice choice :)
No! My brain is not functioning! The 8th is before next Monday!
!!
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jasper jaspermcc...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/1/5 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your
- Original Message
From: Edmund von der Burg edmund.vonderb...@gmail.com
Hurrah!
I'll be there.
I'll be there, too. I've a bad habit of not checking my calendar. I need to
stop that, but a New Year's resolution is just made to be broken. (This year,
I resolve to wean myself
On 06/01/2009, at 1:20 AM, Peter Corlett wrote:
On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:13, Paul Makepeace wrote:
[...]
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to
ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London.
Although if one is built like a typical programmer
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, David Dorward wrote:
Nicholas Clark wrote:
Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a social on the 3rd
Thursday of the month?
No, it thought that the Thursday after the first Wednesday of this month
takes place in a week and a half's time.
Or your ultra-orthodox
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
No, its a, um, er, Django shop.
You wouldn't be a coffin-dragging gunslinger by any chance?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060315/
_
Are you a PC?
On 5 Jan 2009, at 13:53, David Dorward wrote:
Peter Corlett wrote:
I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route
planner comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses.
(When enabled, it seems to prefer to route people via bus where
possible, presumably for
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any
commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London.
Seconded.
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:06:02PM +, David Dorward wrote:
Sue Spence wrote:
I'm just kidding of course. Congrats.
Thanks
Work is good, and so are new experiences
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time.
Is that good?
Get a bike.
And you know the
Billy Abbott wrote:
(I like cake http://flickr.com/photos/cowfish/185568346/)
The cake is a lie.
--
David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, Jasper wrote:
Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid,
like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't see
you. You do get the odd shit of a bus driver, too.
What, like the ones that actually want to get
On 5 Jan 2009, at 20:59, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:06:02PM +, David Dorward wrote:
Sue Spence wrote:
I'm just kidding of course. Congrats.
Thanks
Work is good, and so are new experiences
I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first
time.
2009/1/5 Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com:
Typical programmers come in two distinct groups - large, or wiry. The
muscle density on the wiry ones is actually quite high ;)
Bah I say - not everything's black and white like that.
And I say that as a possibly ambidextrous dev (who's trying to
On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard like *me* says
that.
The Circle Line was one of my reasons for getting a foldy.
The Circle Line was one of my reasons for
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, James Duncan ja...@reasonablysmart.com wrote:
On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard like *me* says
that.
The Circle Line was one of
On 5 Jan 2009, at 22:08, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, James Duncan ja...@reasonablysmart.com
wrote:
On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:30, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:
Nicholas Clark wrote:
So we will all have to ask you what it's like...
Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/
No, its a, um, er, Django shop.
What a strange coincedence. I start at a Django shop on
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 17:59, Mark Overmeer m...@overmeer.net wrote:
My first Brompton lasted over six years of heavy duty (although
the cycling conditions in Holland are a bit better than in the UK).
No serious troubles, no accidents. The wheelbase (the distance between the
front and back
Where are we going then?
I've always liked this place:
http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/antelope.html
Cheers,
Edmund.
--
e...@ecclestoad.co.uk - http://ecclestoad.co.uk
On Sun 04 Jan 2009, Edmund von der Burg e...@ecclestoad.co.uk wrote:
Where are we going then?
I've always liked this place:
http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/antelope.html
OK! Let's go there. Last I checked (April 2008), they've started
charging for the function room (and were
2009/1/4 Kake L Pugh k...@earth.li:
On Sun 04 Jan 2009, Edmund von der Burg e...@ecclestoad.co.uk wrote:
Where are we going then?
I've always liked this place:
http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/antelope.html
OK! Let's go there. Last I checked (April 2008), they've started
charging
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