Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Katie T
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Mike Whiting m...@mikejw.co.uk wrote: Looking for an opportunity to cross-train to Perl. Please find my CV here: http://mikew.co/resume Checkout: http://www.coderstack.co.uk/perl-jobs There's enough of a demand for Perl devs in London that a lot of

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Dave Cross
On 04/27/2011 09:07 AM, Katie T wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Mike Whitingm...@mikejw.co.uk wrote: Looking for an opportunity to cross-train to Perl. Please find my CV here: http://mikew.co/resume Checkout: http://www.coderstack.co.uk/perl-jobs There's enough of a demand for

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
That's good to hear. All I ever hear in the new-projects-arena from management is everything is being replaced with Java. Although I am still gainfully employed contract-to-contract as a Perl developer and have been for a number of years, there seems to be this constant undercurrent of it's a

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Sue Spence
On 26 April 2011 13:24, Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.org wrote: On 23/04/2011 13:46, Sue Spence wrote: Beyond installing my own Perl Do this.  Best to ignore the system Perl IMO. I don't get it. I've never used anything other than system Perl all the time I've been using OS X, and I

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Dominic.Thoreau
My employer is looking for a Perl dev at the moment, and has been so for six months. Apparently Perl skills are actually fairly hard to find at the moment I think the job spec calls for a technology generalist with Perl skills , but databases and Python wouldn't go far amiss. Details if you ask

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
This sounds similar to the response I got when reporting a number of bugs in released software at a company which shall remain nameless. The suggested fix was for me to: change your operating system... There's really no (polite) answer to that. Ciao Richard -- Richard Foley Ciao -

Re: Junior-mid level Perl - and London Perl Jobs

2011-04-27 Thread Leo Lapworth
We have two mailing lists for Perl jobs... http://london.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs is the London.pm jobs mailing list - please post job specs / details here (archive: http://london.pm.org/pipermail/jobs/ to see examples of job specs) http://london.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs-discuss also

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Victoria Conlan
There's enough of a demand for Perl devs in London that a lot of companies that are looking to hire in that space are willing to hire people with OO-PHP/Python experience. That's good to hear. I'm alternating between excitement and terror at the prospect of being back on the job market. :-/

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Sue Spence
On 27 April 2011 11:15, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: There's enough of a demand for Perl devs in London that a lot of companies that are looking to hire in that space are willing to hire people with OO-PHP/Python experience. That's good to hear.  I'm alternating between excitement

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:43:36AM +0200, Richard Foley wrote: This sounds similar to the response I got when reporting a number of bugs in released software at a company which shall remain nameless. The suggested fix was for me to: change your operating system... There's

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Chris Jack
On 27 April 2011 11:15, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Victoria(n) sponge cakes?

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Victoria Conlan
I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Victoria(n) sponge cakes? But of course! I also do a pretty nifty chocolate fudge cake, and a hugely calorific sachertorte, plus very nice vegan shortbread. I am going to

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:59:33AM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote: I had problems installing deps on some antique POS server combined with bureaucracy putting me off building my own perl. And to be honest, why would I wade through bureaucratic permission-gaining exercises when 30 lines of code

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:49, Victoria Conlan wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Victoria(n) sponge cakes? But of course! I also do a pretty nifty chocolate fudge cake, and a hugely calorific

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Sue Spence wrote: Vegan shortbread? WTH. Short vegans and a touch of Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum? Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham -- ni...@dotdot.it ] [ Ellipsis Intangible Technologies ]

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:02, Nicholas Clark wrote: Which makes me ask the same question. How is Java doing it right? In my limited BBC experience, mvn just pulls freshest everything down from the repo...

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:02, Nicholas Clark wrote: The issues seem to be dependency management and code reuse. How is Java solving these in ways that Perl is failing at? It's not automating the (to some degree necessary) bureaucratic permission-gaining exercises. So what is it doing

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:15, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:02, Nicholas Clark wrote: Which makes me ask the same question. How is Java doing it right? In my limited BBC experience, mvn just pulls freshest everything down from the repo... No, it pulls whatever you tell it

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:29, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: In my limited BBC experience, mvn just pulls freshest everything down from the repo... No, it pulls whatever you tell it to pull. This explains the gist of what Maven does.

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:51, Andy Armstrong wrote: http://www.sonatype.com/books/mvnref-book/reference/pom-relationships-sect-project-dependencies.html As far as dependency management goes. It does so much more than that. I'd go for the by example book for a quick overview, and then use the

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Sounds better than coffee and cake, that's for sure! -- Ciao Richard -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than AufWiederSehen! http://www.rfi.net/books.html There's enough

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
a. No, they were paying me to develop a test suite... b. Because I wouldn't want to be sued by ... oh, that was close ;-) b.b. Probably spent too long south of the border. c. I agree, but this is the usual case of them developing for windoze and exploder and not giving a flying f*** about the

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:30, Sue Spence s...@pennine.com wrote: On 27 April 2011 11:15, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Where?  I'll be right over.  :) Seriously

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Sue Spence
On 27 April 2011 16:18, Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:30, Sue Spence s...@pennine.com wrote: On 27 April 2011 11:15, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Paul Makepeace wrote: Also: geek-operated mojito bars in the caribbean. Ten years ago I considered opening a margarita bar on a deserted beach in Thailand, but couldn't find such thing. Would gladly consider mojitos, perhaps serve margaritas in the morning when you

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-27 Thread Avleen Vig
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.orgwrote: On 20/04/2011 09:40, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Or does he have a point? He completely has a point. CPAN developers right now seem to have a strong predilection for throwing the kitchen sink into modules that really

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:55, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Paul Makepeace wrote: Also: geek-operated mojito bars in the caribbean. Ten years ago I considered opening a margarita bar on a deserted beach in Thailand, but couldn't find such thing. Would gladly

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Victoria Conlan
Also: geek-operated mojito bars in the caribbean. Having just returned from a slightly overly rich-Americans-taking-over kind of trip to St.Lucia (got a bit fed up with no, we're not rich American tourists, we can't afford to pay you 20 dollars just to take a rope and tie the boat to a bouy

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Dirk Koopman
On 27/04/11 13:00, Sue Spence wrote: On 27 April 2011 12:49, Victoria Conlanvi...@comps.org wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!) Victoria(n) sponge cakes? But of course! I also do a pretty nifty

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Sue Spence
On 27 April 2011 19:54, Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk wrote: On 27/04/11 13:00, Sue Spence wrote: On 27 April 2011 12:49, Victoria Conlanvi...@comps.org  wrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and cakes at my place when I do so!)

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Dirk Koopman
On 27/04/11 21:58, Sue Spence wrote: On 27 April 2011 19:54, Dirk Koopmand...@tobit.co.uk wrote: On 27/04/11 13:00, Sue Spence wrote: On 27 April 2011 12:49, Victoria Conlanvi...@comps.orgwrote: I still favour getting the hell out of IT and setting up a tea shop, though. (tea and

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 27 Apr 2011, at 18:08, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:55, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Paul Makepeace wrote: Also: geek-operated mojito bars in the caribbean. Ten years ago I considered opening a margarita bar on a deserted

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Dirk Koopman
On 27/04/11 22:31, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 18:08, Dave Hodgkinsondaveh...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:55, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Paul Makepeace wrote: Also: geek-operated mojito bars in the caribbean. Ten years ago I considered

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Victoria Conlan
Vegan shortbread? WTH. The short(ening) agent in Short Bread = fat. Specifically, it must be butter. No butter, no shortbread. I've found that vegan buttery-style margarine is acceptable. Especially if you replace half of the flour with ground almonds. Pop over, I'll make you it some

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: Specifically, it must be butter.  No butter, no shortbread. I've found that vegan buttery-style margarine is acceptable.  Especially if you replace half of the flour with ground almonds.  Pop over, I'll make you it some

Re: Junior-mid level Perl (Victoria Conlan)

2011-04-27 Thread Uri Guttman
YS == Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes sthoe...@gmail.com writes: YS On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Victoria Conlan vi...@comps.org wrote: Specifically, it must be butter.  No butter, no shortbread. I've found that vegan buttery-style margarine is acceptable.  Especially if you replace

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Aaron Crane
Pedro Figueiredo m...@pedrofigueiredo.org wrote: I was just thinking that surely a Bloody Mary is 1 of your 5-a-day. How about sloe gin? -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/

Re: Junior-mid level Perl

2011-04-27 Thread Billy Abbott
On 27/04/2011 22:48, Dirk Koopman wrote: On 27/04/11 22:31, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 18:08, Dave Hodgkinsondaveh...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:55, Pedro Figueiredo wrote: On 27 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Paul Makepeace wrote: Also: geek-operated mojito bars in