Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Dan
2010/2/2 Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker ilm...@ilmari.org Because I suck and didn't get around to booking any other pub in time, we're going back to the Gunmakers this Thursday (4 February), where the lovely landlord Jeff always welcomes us with open arms, foamy beers, non-foamy ciders and tasty

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:17:04AM +, Dan wrote: 2010/2/2 Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker ilm...@ilmari.org Because I suck and didn't get around to booking any other pub in time, we're going back to the Gunmakers this Thursday (4 February), where the lovely landlord Jeff always welcomes us

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Dan danthegeek...@googlemail.com writes: [snip] Sounds fantastic but why post so late :-( [snip] 2010/2/2 Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker ilm...@ilmari.org Because I suck and didn't get around to booking any other pub in time, [snip] I hope this answers your question :-) -- ilmari A

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Leo Lapworth
On 4 February 2010 10:17, Dan danthegeek...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/2/2 Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker ilm...@ilmari.org Because I suck and didn't get around to booking any other pub in time, we're going back to the Gunmakers this Thursday (4 February), where the lovely landlord Jeff always

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Leo Lapworth
On 4 February 2010 10:34, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:17:04AM +, Dan wrote: Sounds fantastic but why post so late :-( If I had know last week I would have left the evening free. Maybe I'll have better luck next time. The location isn't fixed, but

Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Egor Shipovalov
CV below. Willing to consider support engineering positions if the company is good. Money isn't the number one priority. = Egor Shipovalov Tel.: +44 07780 211 416, +7 985 233 1841 E-mail: kogdaugo...@gmail.com LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/EgorShipovalov Homepage:

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Bob MacCallum
Under the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act it's unlawful for an employer to discriminate against you because you are married. This means that they cannot ask you about this during interviews, etc. Your voluntary disclosure of this information makes me slightly uncomfortable but I doubt there is a law

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:31 +, Bob MacCallum wrote: Under the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act it's unlawful for an employer to discriminate against you because you are married. This means that they cannot ask you about this during interviews, etc. That may well be so but the fact remains that

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Potter
On 4 February 2010 14:48, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:31 +, Bob MacCallum wrote: Under the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act it's unlawful for an employer to discriminate against you because you are married.  This means that they cannot ask you about this

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:34:04AM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:17:04AM +, Dan wrote: 2010/2/2 Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker ilm...@ilmari.org Sounds fantastic but why post so late :-( If I had know last week I would have left the evening free. Maybe I'll have

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:48 +, Philip Potter wrote: On 4 February 2010 14:48, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:31 +, Bob MacCallum wrote: Under the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act it's unlawful for an employer to discriminate against you because you are

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Zbigniew Lukasiak
Since you are in London now - maybe you could come to todays social? I don't have much experience here - but I would imagine that it should be good for networking. Cheers, Zbigniew On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Egor Shipovalov kogdaugo...@gmail.com wrote: CV below. Willing to consider

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Dominic Thoreau
On 4 February 2010 16:29, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: It's 9 months of full salary more expensive to hire a woman who gets pregnant, takes her full maternity leave and then decides not to return to work. Adding on to this  advertising, time to review CVs, time to interview and so

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Potter
On 4 February 2010 16:50, Dominic Thoreau domi...@thoreau-online.net wrote: On 4 February 2010 16:29, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: It's 9 months of full salary more expensive to hire a woman who gets pregnant, takes her full maternity leave and then decides not to return to work.

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Potter
On 4 February 2010 16:29, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:48 +, Philip Potter wrote: On 4 February 2010 14:48, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:31 +, Bob MacCallum wrote: Under the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act it's

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 16:29 +, Raphael Mankin wrote: It's 9 months of full salary more expensive to hire a woman who gets pregnant, takes her full maternity leave and then decides not to return to work. The government is in the process of making it possible for the maternity and paternity

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Dominic Thoreau domi...@thoreau-online.net wrote: These days aren't parental leave rights extended to a fairly generous degree towards the father as well? IIRC if the mother wants to return to work the father can take parental leave with very similar conditions

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Dominic Thoreau
On 4 February 2010 16:50, Dominic Thoreau domi...@thoreau-online.net wrote: These days aren't parental leave rights extended to a fairly generous degree towards the father as well? (looks it up) Ah, right, the govt. *promised* to change it to six months, but never actually did anything. About

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 17:02 +, Philip Potter wrote: Statutory paternity leave is up to 2 weeks. There may be more generous employers but the law does not require it. Right now yes, but looking forward, wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/28/fathers-six-months-paternity-leave

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Abigail
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:02:05PM +, Philip Potter wrote: On 4 February 2010 16:50, Dominic Thoreau domi...@thoreau-online.net wrote: On 4 February 2010 16:29, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: It's 9 months of full salary more expensive to hire a woman who gets pregnant,

2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread Paulo Edgar Castro
Dear mongers, I come to you in the hope of enlightenment At the place were I work we a have a perl software suite that depends on roughly 148 modules not counting of course on the dependencies that these 148 modules have. Ignoring the fact that we currently have a perl binary which has

Re: 2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread Ash Berlin
On 4 Feb 2010, at 18:04, Matt Sergeant wrote: Paulo Edgar Castro wrote: It's very likely that I might be missing some obvious knowledge/tricks here. Would there be a cleverer way to accomplish this ? Use your OS's package management system. Which is pretty much guaranteed to not have the

Re: 2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:46:46PM +, Paulo Edgar Castro wrote: Our initial thought was to just run through the motions of the app Makefile which has defined these 148 modules with perl Makefile.PL --defaultdeps make and wait for the modules to install. Then the penny droped and we

Re: 2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread Dave Webb
Hi, On 04/02/10 17:46, Paulo Edgar Castro wrote: Long story short as I think I'm making a bit of a mess with the question... We want to install all the 148 modules with the exact version number of what we currently have installed. Preferably we want to install everything exactly as we have.

Re: 2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread Leo Lapworth
Look at shipwrite (on CPAN) also run your own CPAN mirror (see CPAN::Mini) and don't forget version control of everything Oh local::lib is also useful On 4 Feb 2010, at 17:46, Paulo Edgar Castro pauloedgarcas...@gmail.com wrote: Dear mongers, I come to you in the hope of

Re: 2 depend or not 2 depend

2010-02-04 Thread Matt Sergeant
Ash Berlin wrote: Use your OS's package management system. Which is pretty much guaranteed to not have the exact versions they currently have installed if they've been using `cpan` et al. to install it . I don't mean get them from the OS distributor. I mean build RPMs (or debs or

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] London Perl M[ou]ngers Social - Thursday 2010-02-04 - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-02-04 Thread Dave Cross
On 02/04/2010 04:21 PM, David Cantrell wrote: There is a social on the first Thursday of every month, and an extra Heretical social on Thursday the 8th. Don't listen to him. The official meeting date algorithm is defined on the web site - http://london.pm.org/meetings/ Dave...

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Potter
On 4 February 2010 18:14, Raphael Mankin r...@mankin.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 16:58 +, Philip Potter wrote: What I want to see is some real data showing what the difference in cost is to hire a woman of childbearing age who may or may not have any plans for getting pregnant,

Re: Looking for a Perl development position in London

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Potter
On 4 February 2010 16:58, Philip Potter philip.g.pot...@gmail.com wrote: get pregnant. I don't know. What I want to see is some real data showing what the difference in cost is to hire a woman of childbearing age who may or may not have any plans for getting pregnant, compared to hiring a